SML828 Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 (edited) Hey all...I saw a little blurb on 19 this morning, then I looked and found an article in the Enquirer. Just thought I'd share... Water Shortage I'm sure they'll work everything out...But, I guess we'll have to wait and see!? Edited January 1, 1970 by SML828 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fusion Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Yeah, saw it on 9 just a few minutes ago. Very interesting..... We'll have to see what happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missdi Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 I saw this on the news this morning also, it baffled me because the fact of needing this much extra water that this wasn't researched earlier in the planning phases and taken care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Picard Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 (edited) What would use 500,0000 gallons of water a day and an extra 500,000 gallons of sewer capacity a day? Edited January 1, 1970 by captain picard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastfreak Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 (edited) One HUGE TOILET!! Haha, but seriously, I'm sure with any water slide or attraction they bring in new water and pump out some old water daily. Just think, little kids pee in it all the time or just dirt off of people gets into the water. They can continuously recycle the water through the ride but after so long.... gross. Flying Supersaturator??? Just another guess, we can wish. Edited January 1, 1970 by beastfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Just think, little kids pee in it all the time or just dirt off of people gets into the water. They can continuously recycle the water through the ride but after so long.... gross. this isn't a problem even in a closed water system, since the water is purified to the point as if it came out of the faucet, since people are swimming in it, and could swallow it. I would bet that currently, PKI probably uses around 200,000 gallons of water a day. Think about it, everyone that has a swimsuit on and gets in the pool takes a certain amount of water out with them. Do the math. If everyone removes a quart of water from the pool, and say 20,000 people are in the pool in one day, then the park instantly looses 5,000 gallons of water that must be replaced in the pool alone. Also all the water that drips off of people, and rides and such, must be prcoessed. Not to mention, all the water used in making food as well as all the bathrooms. I am thinking we are getting more rides like bigger better slides and a bigger wave pool. It is the only way they would need that much more water per day. It wouldn't surprise me if pKI has to eventually put in their own sanitation System since they are using more water than some small cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterrz Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 I know they have to replace water as some evaporates, and if a little kid goes to the bathroom in it. However, I do find it odd that they would need 500,000 gallons a day. I thought they used filtration systems on most of their water slides so they didn`t have to pump in new water everyday. Unless what they have planned can`t use a filtration system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 everything they have in the water park goes through a filtration system, even the water the kids pee in that you might eventually get in your mouth. If they didn't filter it, they would need a heck of a lot more water. I am thinking that they also have to replace the water that gets sloshed out of the slides and everything else. I guess you could guess how many rides you think they will be adding. Lets see, if the waterpark is open daily from 11-8 thats 9 hours of use. 500,000 divided by 9 is 55,555 gallons of water per hour and then some, meaning they need just over 925 gallons per minute of more water. I am thinking 3 new slides, and a bigger wave pool. That amount of water during one day could easily fit through a 5-6 inch pipe, so I think that is about what we are looking at for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Picard Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 (edited) This does not explain the 500,000 gallons of sewer capacity a day. 500,000 in and 500,000 out no evaporation or splash. Edited January 1, 1970 by captain picard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 (edited) this isn't a problem even in a closed water system, since the water is purified to the point as if it came out of the faucet, since people are swimming in it, and could swallow it. PKI may purify the water, but they have to use either chlorine or bromine to make the water safe to swim in. Either chemical kills any type of bacteria on contact and is necessary for pools, spas, etc. Purifing drinking water is a much more in-depth and costlier process than what any water park goes through. Small amounts of chlorine or bromine will not hurt you if you drink it, but if you do, worst case scenario would be the Hershey squirts. I don't suggest treating the lazy river as your personal bottle of Aquafina. Edited January 1, 1970 by browntggrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB_TOM Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Or maybe currently PKI has a big enough sewer capasity to hold it, but it wouldnt be enough if they added the newest attractions. Just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic41445 Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 As noted in the article, they are not only aiming for the new water resort, ragarding the extra water capacity, but they are also aiming towards future expansion of the park as well. So i guess they were figuring why not kill two birds with one stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Kinda Guy Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 What kinda makes me wonder is why didn't the city see this coming? Not neccesarily the Waterpark growth but just general growth of the whole city. Throw PKI into that mix and you have a heck of alot of water being used. Like I said though, why didn't they(city of Mason) see the growth of the area coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing Streak Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 What kinda makes me wonder is why didn't the city see this coming? Not neccesarily the Waterpark growth but just general growth of the whole city. Throw PKI into that mix and you have a heck of alot of water being used. Like I said though, why didn't they(city of Mason) see the growth of the area coming? The water system was probably designed and built long before the urban sprawl had even started becoming what it is nowadays. It could have been an issue of money as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCat Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 So what is plain B or C???? B. Water Works Becomes a real Water Works C. Nothing????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 What kinda makes me wonder is why didn't the city see this coming? Not neccesarily the Waterpark growth but just general growth of the whole city. Throw PKI into that mix and you have a heck of alot of water being used. Like I said though, why didn't they(city of Mason) see the growth of the area coming? i don't think its gonna be that big a deal, considering how much in taxes Mason gets off PKI. If they make PKI get peeved, it probably would not be a problem for PKI to establish itself as a town, and tell Mason to kiss off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordvolt Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 I don't suggest treating the lazy river as your personal bottle of Aquafina. well, in all seriousness, water in the lazy river may be of better chemical quality than aquafina... City water for drinking is regulated and controlled alot more than bottled water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 well, in all seriousness, water in the lazy river may be of better chemical quality than aquafina... City water for drinking is regulated and controlled alot more than bottled water. Well, in all reality, any and all drinking water is regulated bt the EPA. City Water and Cincinnati Water Works do just enough to meet EPA standards. From time to time a water main will break or use of a fire hydrant will comtaminate the water lines, something that you will not find in any bottled water. Just refer to the City of Cleveland during the recent blackout, people that use city water there were told to boil the water for contaminates due to the fact that there was no power to purify the water.Aquafina website At the Aquafina website, you can read exactly what they do to the water and what additives the Pepsi Cola Co. does to their bottled water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonLord Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 A few things... First, the park does have it's own water treatment plant and we do pump a lot of water out of our own pumps located near the river for use in landscaping and in the water park. Odds are we are adding more pumps to aid in the water park expansion, but will also need additional water from the city... "He noted that the park is considering options inside and outside the property." The city has always had a problem with water, and it isn't only Mason, it's Warren County in general. In fact, the city of Cincinnati takes care of Mason's water systems, or at least some it, and provides Mason with some of it's water. You haven't figured in the additional restrooms, food courts, showers, and other facilities that use water in the new water park. Water rides aren't the only thing that take water. In the end everything will work out... it will probably be a combination of County, City and private (PKI) sources that will get the park up and going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 just a thought, this would probably be very expensive, but could PKI build a water main that would tap the huge supply down in Hamilton County and run a dedicated water main into the park, thus not using excess water in Warren County? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCat Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 I wonder if the new water will cost the 2005 ride to be pushed backed a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastfreak Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Kinda Guy Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 (edited) I wonder if the new water will cost the 2005 ride to be pushed backed a year? Man! I really hope so! Maybe even push it back to 2009!!!! Edited January 1, 1970 by AZ Kinda Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonLord Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Umm... I doubt there is any chance of a dedicated water main for the park from Cincy to the park. Besides, an extra 500,000 gallons from Cincy would add more stress to their systems as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pki2005 Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 YOU think they would have had this planned out. I dont see to understand why they didnt. I guess it shows the poor mangement of pki. I doubt it will push back anything. If there is 2 much trouble 2004 flat, 2005 water works expasion, 2006-coaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryler87 Posted September 6, 2003 Share Posted September 6, 2003 all in all, i think this is a little amusing. pki 500.000 gallons of water short. i work in the summer for a pool company testing water, helping clean and repairing pools, and i must say for 500,000 gallons of more water to be NEEDED but not supplied is a LARGE drop of water in the glass of the water system. that's a lot of pumps, filters and liquid shock to keep the whole works running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted September 6, 2003 Share Posted September 6, 2003 Umm... I doubt there is any chance of a dedicated water main for the park from Cincy to the park. Besides, an extra 500,000 gallons from Cincy would add more stress to their systems as well. Not as much as you might think. Currently, Cincy Water Works, is not pumping at all out capacity, and they can always kick on another pump when needed. This happens every once in a while, especially in summer, when we have fires and need them to boost the pressure, which they are usually willing to do, either through opening valves in the street a little more, or boosting the pump pressures. If you look at it, Cincy actually currently has an excess supply of water, since they tunneled underneath the river with a 3 ft diameter pipe to sell water to Northern kentucky. The pipe crosses near Anderson Ferry. If they were really in a crunch, jI am sure they would not be doing this, and I think CWW probably has much better planning for future water needs as compared to Warren County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing Streak Posted September 9, 2003 Share Posted September 9, 2003 Not too many people seem to understand that the park is not 500,000 Gallons short. That's a big problem with the media. They simplify things in headlines, and you end up taking away from the article that PKI cannot open this waterpark because they're 500,000 gallons short. Quite frankly, they're not. Warren County/Mason have said that they can't handle ALL of PKI's new request. Which indicates that they can handle some. And PKI has said that all 500,000 gallons was not to be used solely on the new waterpark. Some of it is for expansion beyond 2004. It's pretty easy to see that the park isn't 500,000 gallons short. I would be extremely surprised if they don't get it done next year. Money can change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyatuc Posted September 9, 2003 Share Posted September 9, 2003 I think what happened was someone at the Warren County water department said something like "We promised them 500,000 gallons but I don't know where it'll come from yet." and the media jumped all over it. Warren County can handle it just as well as anyone else can or they wouldn't have agreed to do so. I'm 100% sure that those in charge of the new waterpark had confirmation of the added water usage before finalizing designs on the park itself. You don't go into that stage til you're sure you can pull it off. I have faith in my company. I'm sick of the media in general. They constantly twist information and quotes to make a story out of nothing. It's not important where you get your news it's always biased to some extent. If it wasn't then there'd be no "news" to report. Sorry for the rant...now back to the topic... Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraderJake Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 It appears that Kings Island is no longer 500,000 gallons short in its search for water. Announced today in the Enquirer the park announced that the county will act as the service provider for the water, but the Cincinnati Water Works would actually be selling the park the water. Source: http://www.enquirer.com/midday/10/10042003...s_mday_pki.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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