Justice League : Battle For Metropolis

[Screaming_Chicken]

Cedar Fair TAKE NOTES !

This news excites me and it also upsets me. See, Six Flags St.Louis had by far the greatest Scooby-Doo Dark Ride it was called Scooby-Doo: The Mystery of Scary Swamp. I loved this ride it made me feel that special kind of feeling that I felt as a kid watching Scooby-Doo on Saturday morning with a bowl of cereal. YES! This ride made me feel as if I were in an episode of Scooby-Doo,Where are you. Which is why I was so upset to hear Scooby-Doo: The Mystery of Scary Swamp will be closing to make room for a new dark ride by Sally ...a BIG DARK RIDE ! A.BIG. MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR.DARK.RIDE. Justice League:Battle for Metropolis! As a comic book fan I'm curious to see how this will be. It sounds AWESOME! Now, I prefer DC Comics over Marvel always have mainly because the stories are some what grittier and darker and Batman is by far my favorite superhero always has been since I was a kid.

Cedar Fair why haven't you guys contacted Sally and give us thrill nerds with kids a Great Pumpkin or Snoopy, Peanuts Dark Ride Experience ? Anyway, Six Flags is doing something right this ride will attract families with tweens and teens. As I said before ... Take Notes.

http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwmovies/article/Six-Flags-Introduces-JUSTICE-LEAGUE-BATTLE-FOR-METROPOLIS-20140828

http://sallycorp.com/news/new-sally-corp-justice-league-dark-rides-set-for-six-flags/

[KIFan1]

I agree. Cedar Fair needs to work with Rocky Mountain and Sally Corp. plus they need more intellectual properties. Or another crazy idea is for Cedar Fair to sell KI to a different company. I made a post about it. Check it out sometime.

[bkroz]

Cedar Fair DID work with Sally Corp.

The company was brought in to un-do their Doo booboo (not to be confused with Boo-Boo) and re-do as Boo, based on their Ghost Blasters II dark ride.

Why not Great Pumpkin? Probably because Cedar Fair, at the time, was under the leadership of a dinosaur who saw an opportunity to save Beagle Bucks by contracting Sally to turn five Scooby Doo rides into five identical dark rides. Our dark ride happens to be in Planet Snoopy. The same isn't true of all the other old Scooby rides. So ours could logically have become a Peanuts ride, but that would've cost a little extra. Much cheaper to install the same thing across the chain, so Boo Blasters on Boo Hill it is.

What a name.

Flight Deck. Boo Blasters on Boo Hill. Drop Tower. Back Lot Stunt Coaster. Truly abysmal.

... on Boo Hill. WHY?!

[bkroz]

By the way, for a glimpse at what this ride may or may not entail, check out the Justice League: Alien Invasion 3D dark ride that Sally installed at Warner Bros. Movie World in Australia's Gold Coast. Looks really well-done, and many of the folks behind Six Flags' upcoming installations worked on the Australian ride. You're right that it'll appeal to families and that sought-after demographic of pre-teen boys. It seems that this is the perfect way to capture the best of all demographics.

Because I'm used to their Scooby Doo rides and Boo Blasters rides (all of which were done on a budget at the former Paramount Parks), I equate Sally Corp. with the sort of "cheap" looking blacklight 2-D cutout dayglo interactive shooters like those (also also the turkey-themed one at Holiday World is the very distinct style I equate with Sally). The company, though, is truly a powerhouse and can produce INCREDIBLE attractions when given the budget and time. There's a post about two such examples of their stellar dark rides.

[PhantomTheater]

plus they need more intellectual properties.

Intellectual properties cost money, even SIX got rid of some not to long ago. Also they don't necessarily equate to a decent ride experience, see Garfield's Nightmare.

[bkroz]

plus they need more intellectual properties.

Intellectual properties cost money, even SIX got rid of some not to long ago. Also they don't necessarily equate to a decent ride experience, see Garfield's Nightmare.

True! But which brought more families with 3-to-10 year old boys to Kennywood: The Old Mill or Garfield's Nightmare?

I think what Six Flags learned is that with IPs, the trick is quality over quantity.

Evel Knievel. The Wiggles. Thomas the Tank Engine. Looney Tunes. DC Heroes. Tony Hawk. Terminator. Scooby Doo. Snickers. M&Ms. Stride Gum. Coldstone Creamery. Johnny Rockets. Skittles.

That's a whole different kind of giving away the gate. What is presence in a Six Flags park worth? How exclusive is it? At some point, Six Flags leadership must've realized that while they struggled financially, their strategy of letting in anyone who was interested was not helping. Likewise, maybe those partners started to see that Six Flags wasn't exactly being exclusive or thoughtful about their partnerships. If twenty people are drinking from the same bottle, they each get 5% of its contents.

Cedar Fair has a few strategic partnerships. They found it worthwhile to license Dale Earnhardt Jr. in some of their parks in the Southeast. One could imagine that whatever the Charlotte Hornets were asking for was too much. Lebron James? Tomb Raider? Nickelodeon? Scooby Doo? Cedar Fair is very precise about their partnerships, and maybe that's a good thing. Would Carowinds' 2015 coaster be a better ride experience if it were an "official" ride of the Charlotte Hornets? Probably not. But did Cedar Fair miss out on potential marketing? Maybe.

I don't know. It's an art, not a science. But simply paying big bucks to have lots of brands in your park isn't the answer.

As for Cedar Fair selling Kings Island, as I said in the other topic, it's unlikely. Why would they? What incentive do they have to hand a competitor their #3 best performing park and the park closest to their own flagship?

If Cedar Fair finds it prudent to create more partnerships, they will. But at the end of the day they answer to shareholders.

Sometimes being forced into originality can be best best. Mystic Manor. Haunted Mansion. Pirates of the Caribbean. Jungle Cruise. Walt Disney and his Imagineering successors weren't bringing movies or athletes or sports teams to life. They were creating from scratch.

[The Interpreter]

I think you miss an important point:

Some properties are so valuable that parks PAY to use them.

Others see the parks as so valuable a place to do their marketing that the outside companies PAY the parks to be there.

And some are in fact barter arrangements-I'll give you my product to sell in exchange for "promotional considerations."

Which are which? The answers might well surprise you. and since the answers (and the amounts of money, if any) accompanying each transaction vary wildly from park to park and product to product and chain to chain, this information is often proprietary, very closely guarded and quite revealing.

Compare, if you will, Coca-Cola (think about the arrangements with colleges and universities and stadiums and sports leagues--who pays whom?), Pepsico (Holiday World--and just lost the Cedar Fair contract--why) and, oh, since you seem to think Cedar Fair is so judicious in its partnerships--Halloween Haunt, Driven by SafeAuto (really) and Fast Lane sponsored by a Chevrolet dealer who would want me to say their name. Since they have not offered Terp a promotional consideration (no GM products accepted for ignition), no.

[MantisMan]

Halloween Haunt, Driven by SafeAuto (really) and Fast Lane sponsored by a Chevrolet dealer who would want me to say their name. Since they have not offered Terp a promotional consideration (no GM products accepted for ignition), no.

So you're saying you was paid promotional consideration by SafeAuto?

Interesting....

[Screaming_Chicken]

I just wish Cedar Fair would give us a Peanuts themed dark ride they can do it on budget...we all can see evidence of that I think we thrill nuts with kids & nieces ,nephews, cousins deserve a nice refreshing ride for the wee ones when I take kids with me they do get tired of waiting with me being put in the ''kiddie cage'' while I ride Banshee, Beast etc. Don't get me wrong I will and do take em to Planet Snoopy but they get so bored so quickly and I WILL NOT repeat WILL NOT waste my time on Boo Hill it's abysmal and I'm not going to waste my time. I know Cedar Fair could gives a nice peanuts theme dark ride and the other parks too on a budget. Planet Snoopy is getting boring for my nieces...

[BoddaH1994]

No.

Either do it or don't do it. Don't "do it on a budget."

Doing it on a budget was what brought Phantom Theatre to the.... level... of SDATHC. Doing it on a budget was what brought to you the Garfield ride at Kennywood - one that I regretfully rode despite being advised otherwise by all of the KP park employees I spoke to.

It seems as though as technology has progressed, standards for dark rides at seasonal parks has plummeted. Wonderful works of art like the Maestro have been replaced by wooden cutouts that pivot when you shoot them with a poorly designed blaster gun.

If you're going to do a dark ride - Peanuts or otherwise - do it on a year in which you have the necessary working capital. Make it an experience that is something of which you can be proud. Make art imitate life. Make it in a way in which it can be maintained to proper standards day after day, year after year.

[westcoaster]

To the hopeful great Peanuts dark ride...let's hope..

[westcoaster]

Let's hope for a Peanuts dark ride soon.

[Screaming_Chicken]

You know I have heard and seen great concept art for SDATHC. I know those Phantom Theater Buggies were to be replace with actual Mystery Machines. Your right BoddaH! I said budget because well I know Cedar Fair would sink money into a Peanuts Dark Ride..or Will they... Regardless I and many others would LOVE to see something replace Boo Hill which is abysmal as it gets...yuck.