Cedar Point Rape

[Hank]

This just in.....

 

http://www.wtol.com/story/30295037/breaking-the-sandusky-register-is-reporting-a-rape-of-a-14-year-old-girl-at-cedar-point

 

[The Interpreter]

It is important to note that this is an allegation, not necessarily true.

[Browntggrr]

14?

 

My daughter is 14.  Too young to be associated with a story like this.

 

Is it safe to assume that she was working as a Halloweekends Screamster?  I can't imagine a 14 year old working for: rides, foods, cleaning etc.

 

 

UPDATE:

 

Great Pumpkin Fest allows 14/15 year olds.  https://www.cedarpoint.com/item/Jobs/Monster-Jobs?mobile=0

 

The other big question- where?  Was it in one of the dorms?  In the park?

 

Ugh.....

[Thrill_Biscuit]

Oh, so it's about alleged rape involving people who happen to work at Cedar Point, and not the park itself. Okay. Got it. I thought by the original post title, "BREAKING: The Sandusky Register is reporting a rape of a ... girl at Cedar Point," that rape occurred allegedly at the park itself, and not off-site as the story implies. This would be like a headline reading "Nuclear Weapons Facility Theft" for someone who happened to work at such a facility being arrested for allegedly shoplifting from a nearby Target or Walmart, for example. 

 

Sad that someone has had to suffer such a life-wrecking event, if the allegations prove true.

[Browntggrr]

^ The story was recently updated (12:36pm).  I do not recall seeing the "apartment" side of the story until just now.

 

But even if it happened in the living facilities, it is still considered Cedar Point property.

[Browntggrr]

More definitive info:

 

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/10/15/cedar-point-employee-arrested-for-allegedly-raping-14-year-old-co-worker

[The Interpreter]

If Cedar Point is going to have employee housing for minors, it's going to be subject to in loco parentis (in place of the parent).

I'm sure the 14 year old was not the tenant...

Still...

[Dr Zhark]

Wait....You must be 18 or older to have housing...

[The Interpreter]

But apparently not to "visit."

[malem]

It was my understanding that "visitors" aren't allowed, regardless of age.

[homestar92]

After recently spending four years in a college dorm, what is allowed and what happens are two VERY different things.

[The Interpreter]

More definitive info:

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/10/15/cedar-point-employee-arrested-for-allegedly-raping-14-year-old-co-worker

Note the comments....

[TTD-120-420]

This doesn't surprise me and I'm happy I got out of there when I did. 

[jcgoble3]

This doesn't surprise me and I'm happy I got out of there when I did. 

 

It "doesn't surprise" you? Do I dare ask why, or is that better left unsaid?

[alsoran]

Why are we bringing this up?  I am probably starting an argument with this, but, we don't and will never know the entire story.  I am not defending either one, but did the girl entice the male and then cry rape to get back at him for something he did?  Is it even real, or just an accusation? Or did it really happen where he forced himself on her?  My point is, there is no glory in any of the points brought forth.  This needs to be handled by the proper authorities.  I don't believe making this public helps any matters other than just accusations and finger pointing.  Either way, both parties involved are scared for life.  And, now many others are talking about it and making it even worse.  

 

My vent is over.  Just hate to see this in the news. There is nothing good to come of it.

[XGatorHead 8904]

I don't believe making this public helps any matters other than just accusations and finger pointing ... And, now many others are talking about it and making it even worse.

 

My vent is over. Just hate to see this in the news. There is nothing good to come of it.

 

And that's where you're wrong.  Many women who are sexually assaulted are too afraid to report it.  News of a 14 year old who was brave enough to speak up may just be the encouragement someone needs.  If it reaches and inspires only one victim, that's enough.  Two or more, even better.

[Steph88]

Good for her for reporting it. I'm really glad she did. But still... This is a case with a minor. Her name wasn't released but people close to the situation, her coworkers mainly, can figure out who it is and spread rumors, form their own ridiculous opinions and speculations, etc.

 

I'm sure not every woman/girl who is raped wants to inspire other victims, or be told by strangers or people outside the situation how brave they are. A lot of them really just want to get through what happened to them in their own time and have some privacy and anonymity, and just get back to normal life. And there's nothing wrong with that. Yes their story can help people but it's THEIR prerogative if they want to share that story with anyone but the authorities. I think in this case, it's unfortunate the media couldn't have left it alone.

 

Reporting the rape to authorities protects herself and other women from that person. She has no further obligations to be a symbol or speak about her situation. I hope she gets that peace and time to heal.

 

But people speculating things like this ^^ is one reason why so many people don't report it. It isn't helpful, it isn't productive, and it likely isn't true. It's not our job to determine what happened. (No offense, just trying to help.)

 

All we can do is educate and protect our loved ones, and hope victims can find healing and peace.

[TTD-120-420]

This doesn't surprise me and I'm happy I got out of there when I did.

It "doesn't surprise" you? Do I dare ask why, or is that better left unsaid?

I'm not going to talk poorly about a past employer, but I'll just say I never felt safe at the dorms there. If I as a 6'3" grown male doesn't feel safe, I can only imagine what it's actually like as a teenage girl.

[themuska11]

Most girls sexually assaulted won't come forward because of how harsh the trials are. The defense grills the girls to try and make them come off as they encouraged it. Every sexual assault case I've been involved in (my friends), they always ask what the girls were wearing, as if what a girls wearing really provokes an attack upon them. 

[shark6495]

Why are we bringing this up? I am probably starting an argument with this, but, we don't and will never know the entire story. I am not defending either one, but did the girl entice the male and then cry rape to get back at him for something he did? Is it even real, or just an accusation? Or did it really happen where he forced himself on her? My point is, there is no glory in any of the points brought forth. This needs to be handled by the proper authorities. I don't believe making this public helps any matters other than just accusations and finger pointing. Either way, both parties involved are scared for life. And, now many others are talking about it and making it even worse.

My vent is over. Just hate to see this in the news. There is nothing good to come of it.

Why are we bringing this up? Probably because it's a major news story and things like this should be exposed not swept under the rug. See Steubenville.

Entice him? How? Kiss him? Dress a certain way? Flirted? She doesn't deserve to be raped or attempted rape for that.

Studies have shown that "false rape" to attack a person is less than 5% of all "rapes". That's only counting the ones that were revenge sayings not he ones the police couldn't investigate (evidence, etc).

I hate seeing this in the news, not because I don't want to read it or because we don't know the story. I hate reading it because a little girl's life may be forever changed. A young mans life may be forever changed because he may or may not have done what TV/Porn/Movies have taught him is alright to do. I hate reading about things like this because it shows a lack of respect for each other.

Rape doesn't have to be full intercourse. It can be pressuring a person into a sexual act they don't feel comfortable with. Rape isn't always done at knife point. It can be done when a victim feels powerless to say no. They are powerless due to the fear of what may happen (person gets upset, doesn't take them home, shames them, psychological abuse, etc). Many men don't know what "rape" is and believe that it's only what's shown on Law and Order. If a woman tells you no/stop and you keep pushing.... That's rape or attempted rape. If you start fooling around and she decides half way through she doesn't want to do this anymore and you keep going that's rape too.

And yes of course it can be the other way around as well.

And no offense you may have meant well with your post but when you mention the victim brought it on herself comment (entice) you lost all of my respect and deserve this lengthy rant in response. We do not live in a society where the way a person dresses allows for the men in that society to attack her sexually. With all due respect, stop thinking that or stop posting. Period. Better to be thought and idiot than to speak and remove all doubt.

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[Browntggrr]

Why are we bringing this up?  I am probably starting an argument with this, but, we don't and will never know the entire story.  I am not defending either one, but did the girl entice the male and then cry rape to get back at him for something he did?  Is it even real, or just an accusation? Or did it really happen where he forced himself on her?  My point is, there is no glory in any of the points brought forth.  This needs to be handled by the proper authorities.  I don't believe making this public helps any matters other than just accusations and finger pointing.  Either way, both parties involved are scared for life.  And, now many others are talking about it and making it even worse.  

 

My vent is over.  Just hate to see this in the news. There is nothing good to come of it.

Why is this being brought up?

 

THE GIRL IS A MINOR.

 

She should not have been in the building- which is a MAJOR CP issue.

 

She should not have been left alone- which is a MAJOR friend/ parent issue.

 

She should not have been the least bit attractive to the alleged rapist.

 

While I do believe there is always two sides of the story, I do have faith in the authorities that they would would not have taken the alleged into custody without some type of physical evidence.  She was taken to the hospital to be checked out, most likely for a rape kit.  Although DNA evidence will take some time, any bodily fluids present is more than enough evidence that something happened.

 

Now, it is possible that it was not the alleged rapist is a patsy for someone else (boyfriend, sick-ass uncle etc.) but there has to be some truth to the story given she was at: "point A" with "group of people" and the "alleged".

 

And no YOU CANNOT USE THE "ENTICING" CRAP WHEN IT INVOLVES A 14 YEAR OLD.

[alsoran]

Obviously you missed my point.  I may have made it sound like I was blaming the girl in the situation, not true.  I have 2 daughters, if that accusation would have ever been brought up in my house, I would probably have only known one side of that story, my daughters.  Now, we all know that there are a lot of males that may not be the best people in the world.  So, it is definitely possible that this is just what it says.  If you misunderstood me by thinking I was standing up for the male, you are wrong.  My point is, both parties have now had their lives completely changed for the worse.  They will now go through the horrible agony of having to relive this incident many times until the trial is over.  

 

My problem is that this blog is now a constant reminder of the situation.  More people now know about this that may not have known before.  Some that may know the ones involved and whether intentional or not, may try to interfere in some way.  The ones involved have it hard enough to deal with the future.  They don't need a constant reminder from others.  

 

Again, I do not know any of the particulars, nor do I need to know.  I just don't believe this needs to be posted.  This really just needs to be handled by the authorities involved.  

 

Done with this post.  

[Browntggrr]

Obviously you missed my point.  I may have made it sound like I was blaming the girl in the situation, not true.  I have 2 daughters, if that accusation would have ever been brought up in my house, I would probably have only known one side of that story, my daughters.  Now, we all know that there are a lot of males that may not be the best people in the world.  So, it is definitely possible that this is just what it says.  If you misunderstood me by thinking I was standing up for the male, you are wrong.  My point is, both parties have now had their lives completely changed for the worse.  They will now go through the horrible agony of having to relive this incident many times until the trial is over.  

 

My problem is that this blog is now a constant reminder of the situation.  More people now know about this that may not have known before.  Some that may know the ones involved and whether intentional or not, may try to interfere in some way.  The ones involved have it hard enough to deal with the future.  They don't need a constant reminder from others.  

 

Again, I do not know any of the particulars, nor do I need to know.  I just don't believe this needs to be posted.  This really just needs to be handled by the authorities involved.  

 

Done with this post.  

Why is the constant reminder such a bad thing?

 

We constantly hear about horrible situations like this.  What about the ones we don't hear about?  Predators like this do not stop.

 

Ignoring it solves nothing.  Not communicating to other women that it is OK to come forward is a horrible way of handling it.

 

As a parent, I want my girls to hear about stuff like this.  Hopefully they will learn to not put themselves in situations like this.

 

You don't want to hear about it?  Don't click the link.

[The Interpreter]

Obviously you missed my point. I may have made it sound like I was blaming the girl in the situation, not true. I have 2 daughters, if that accusation would have ever been brought up in my house, I would probably have only known one side of that story, my daughters. Now, we all know that there are a lot of males that may not be the best people in the world. So, it is definitely possible that this is just what it says. If you misunderstood me by thinking I was standing up for the male, you are wrong. My point is, both parties have now had their lives completely changed for the worse. They will now go through the horrible agony of having to relive this incident many times until the trial is over.

My problem is that this blog is now a constant reminder of the situation. More people now know about this that may not have known before. Some that may know the ones involved and whether intentional or not, may try to interfere in some way. The ones involved have it hard enough to deal with the future. They don't need a constant reminder from others.

Again, I do not know any of the particulars, nor do I need to know. I just don't believe this needs to be posted. This really just needs to be handled by the authorities involved.

Done with this post.

The horrible agony of having to relive this incident many times before this trial is over?

I only wish.

Try the rest of their lives.

And I highly doubt either reads KIC. This thread isn't going to contribute to the reliving. If it were even seen, it may give comfort.

We need to educate our young. This is part of that.

Pretending something didn't happen or at least was not alleged does not make the world a better place.

There are many good points raised in this thread and many things to be discussed and learned. Sweeping certain things under a rug doesn't solve the problems. Education just might. It's a risk well worth taking.

[Browntggrr]

The alleged is from Erie, PA.

 

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2015/10/22/Cedar-Point-apartment-site-of-rape-accusation.html