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Decoding Episode II: Rivertown 2017 and the Falling Trees


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That's what I was thinking but by this point wouldnt they have trademarked something.

Really don't know. Not sure what the historical trend has been.

I know a few tech/games companies that used to file for marks months in advance, but recently have been waiting until weeks (sometimes a few days) before the announcement to file.

Also, don't forget that Holiday World filed the Thunderbird trademark initially under the name of a seemingly unrelated company, "Croatan LLC", specifically because they knew enthusiasts would be searching for it. http://www.holidayworld.com/holiblog/2014/09/06/secret-kept/

So, if it's possible to do it with a name, why can't it be done with plans?

You know KI knew this would happen.

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Ok...if you look at my last post, you can see NORTH on the plans in the screenshot. So, I dropped this in within the RR Tracks. Where I scaled this as accurately as I could, if you look at the lines of the plans around the track, I was trying my best to line them up with the surrounding objects. At the turnaround, the outlines lined up perfectly with the train house. One part could line up with the RR Tracks next to DB the other the train station. I scaled it, and it's about 800-900 feet out. I feel it's only going to be a 2500 to 3000ish feet of track. (Imagine Racers at 3,415') I could be wrong on EVERYTHING, but...this is my final thought and I feel I'm much closer to figuring out where they will drop it in. Thursday evening, my son goes with his mom for the week. I will spend the evening at Kings Island on the train and WWC combing out my thoughts on this and then enjoy some DB after-hours in the park. I hope to see you there. Let me know what you think.

27424471310_eff4f9df00_z.jpgKingProjectNORTHiFinal by KingsIsland1972, on Flickr

Sorry you're way off. That north indicator does not refer to overview of the ride.

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Then why would they insert that on a blueprint plan? Doesn't that offer reference to the work site? I do believe you are wrong.

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So you are debating with someone who has the plans, plotted out the coordinates and knows the orientation of the coaster; and you only have seen a small tidbit? Smh

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Uuhm....Yep! I guess I am! SO What??? You're "da man with the plans!" Big Whoop! Quit prancing around on us little people just because you know something more than the rest of us. I'm having fun speculating as much as the next guy. I'm enjoying this while I can. So tired of you BIG SHOTS walking on the rest of us who don't have insight. If anything, you should just sit back and have a laugh at our expense, but NO, you have to point out you're the BIG MAN ON CAMPUS and act like you have something to prove. You're not raining on my parade. I'm just calling it as I see it. Maybe you don't know...and a Bluff is all you have to hold on to. I'm here to have fun and enjoy everyone's posts...right or wrong!!! Anyone who knows me, and it's few on this site knows I'm a super duper guy with respect and caring heart for others. I'm not here to start anything, just enjoying the ride until the big announcement.
I don't bluff. And I'll pretend to be bigger above anybody else. I was just trying to guide those that didn't have the plans. Those who wanted to be surprised you can think this guy for spoiling. For those of you who have been nice, and not a grumpy sour puss; check your in box.
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Just throwing this out for everyone saying the park is hyping it too much.

I may be wrong but it's been a real low key hype about project 2017. No radio commercials, no tv spots, no rattling box near an entrance.

All they have done is a cute sign on the fencing, some snap chat stuff, and maybe a tweet or few. Not a bunch of stuff.

I mean we on here have blown everything up more than anything else.

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I could not agree more! Back in 2013, Banshee had multiple signs being teased, the "Field of Dreams" picture, and much more that I am just blanking on. This, and the fact that I can't see a clear path for a large coaster, have limited my expectations and made my ideas come back to reality. 

 

That being said, I still am enjoying the decoding, but I have noticed that it is not at the magnitude that 2013 was. Does less teasing equate to a smaller coaster? Maybe, maybe not. We will have to wait and see. 

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Just got a bunch of duplicate mailings, ostensibly showing plans for *********'s layout and certain specifications.  I got excited about the elevations (ranging in the 700's) until I checked and found that those mean sea level.

 

"*********'s" Is a perfect match with Cedar Fair's trademark Centurion

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Hello I'm a lurker and I'd like to put in some toughts regarding sizes.

 

When it comes to modern day wooden roller coasters you've got three choices: GCI, RMC, and The Gravity Group (aka Gravitykraft according to some rcdb pages) When it comes to size Gravity Group has usually built really longer bigger wooden roller coasters that are for the most part out and back, rides like The Voyage, Ravine Flyer II, Hades 360, and Switchback. These are roller coasters are more long than wide but GG has made smaller roller coasters in a twister layout like Roar-O-Saurus, Boardwalk Bullet, Timber, Wooden Warrior, and Zippin Pippin.

 

RMC on the other hand have made their woodies BIG just look at how much space Lightning Rod, Outlaw Run and Wildfire take up large plots of land meanwhile Goliath at Six Flags Great America is a bit smaller and by that I mean it's one of the shortest in length despite being very tall.

 

GCI on the other hand builds smaller twister style woodies. Exaples would be American Thunder, Apocalypse, Gold Striker, Kentucky Rumbler, White Lightning, Renegade, Prowler, both Roar's, Thunderhead, and Wildcat. Although they have built larger roller coaster than this, Gwazi, Joris en de Draak, Python in Bamboo Forest, Wodan Timbur Coaster, and Lightning Racer are examples of this.

 

What could fit back there? Any of them. But based on recent findings it looks like a small GCI but we can't be sure till the park itself announces a new roller coaster.

If this is a small gci I feel for the public relations team for the park. Hyping a coaster since the Waterpark announcement last year and it turn out to be a small run of the mill wood coaster.

 

Not all GCI's are run of the mill some are actually quite thrilling. I'd even say that American Thunder, Renegade and Prowler are the best in their parks.

 

To those saying GCI doesn't build big...

 

I give you Viper at Wanda Nanchang in China

 

Stats (From GCI's webpage)

 

Height- 160 ft

Drop Height- 142.5 ft

Length- 5,111 ft

Top Speed- 62.1 mph

 

Now this seems like a fantastic wooden roller coaster!

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Thrill_Biscuit is only a life-long, local fan of the park, and knows nothing more or less than the average member on this board. I used a random number of asterisks.  Could also fit "Rocinante," CedarFair," "Rivertown..."

But "Timberhawk" is too long, so that's a good sign.

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Yeah some of this arguing goes beyond a friendly debate. I don't know about you but this is a fun distraction for me. I work way too hard at my job and in life generally to get all worked up about whatever fun new attraction is on its way to my favorite park next year. I like the friendly debate during this decoding process but not the petty insults and general whining. My advice would be, if you're not having fun anymore, maybe it's time to take a break from decoding and go ride the carousel or something (her back to the basics). Chill...it's supposed to be fun.

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I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers at all. I'm generally a pacifist. But then I see people post their interpretations of the plans, and get told "it's wrong" by others with nothing to back it up, and then want to remain secretive about all of it. I get that some of you paid the extraordinary amount of $15 for the plans, but that's no reason to get all haughty about it.

Hey $15 for the plans and then a few more for a frame, and you have a fine piece of art to hang in your living room!
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