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I thought that the Great Wolf Lodge was planning on opening in Late 2006.

Yeah, I may be wrong when I say open for next season...I'm just pulling that information from my head based on previous knowledge, and sometimes things get a little mixed up and fuzzy up in the ol' noggin.

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According to the press release, it is slated for a late 2006 debut. Probably right in time for either Fear Fest or Winterfest next fall. Which, as some rumors have stated is one of the reasons Winterfest is returning, to encourage guests to stay in the resort during the month of December.

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Well I sent an email to pki about 2 weeks ago about the campground. As of yet no reply. I would like to buy my 2006 season pass but until I get a campground guarantee they well not get any cash from me.

You can camp at morgan's campgrounds. About 10-15 min from the park. their website is www.morganscanoe.com. You can also rent canoes. I am going there next weekend biggrin.gif

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^ From what I understand, you must be a guest at the hotel to use the Waterpark. So they will not be an admission price just to go and use the Waterpark. You must stay at the hotel.

Yep, you're exactly right...

Great Wolf's (and similar concepts) business model is based on using the indoor waterpark to drive occupancy (and length of stay) at the hotel. The waterpark is there to generate room revenue--not as a primary revenue producer itself.

Joel

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You can think of the cost of admission the rate of a room for a night. But the rate at the hotel will be more than your average Holiday Inn or Econolodge, because of the indoor waterpark. Essentially, they rely on the waterpark to incrase the desirability and demand of the hotel to get people to pay higher prices for rooms.

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After 18 years of using the PKI Campground, staying at the others was not the same this year.. My kids do not want to go back next year if there is not a new campground at PKI.. As for the rest of our group, usually 50-60 season pass holders, in 2005 only 16 of us got S/P's , and only spent 5 days(normally 10) at the park this year.. Next year , if there is no C/G, then there will be no Paramount S/P's for our group.. We should have recieved a refund on our passes this year, but we gave it a try. Staying 12 miles away was not good.. I understand that a few other groups where not happy either... PKD has a real nice C/G, and so does Carowinds.. Someone in upper Mgmt has their head where the sun doesn't shine..

Rick

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As far as th GWL is concerned, I live within 1.5 hours of the one in T/C Mich. Rooms are terribly expensive, and over a certain amount of occupants, you pay extra to use the W/P.. They offer weekday specials, but it is far out my reach.. you can purchase a Family S/Pass for PKI for about the same as 1 night at GWL.. So what would you rather do?? They will have trouble filling the rooms most of the year..

Rick

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If high ADR hotels couldn't regularly fill there would be no such things as Ritz Carlton, The Four Seasons, Hotel Sofitel, etc...

Never underestimate the amount of money that people are willing to shell out to treat themselves (or more likely, their kids...) It's the reason why there's a need and a market for Sax and Nordstrom, as well as Wal-Mart and Target.

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You are right! But do you see a Ritz, or Hilton at PKI? I think more like Waikiki or Miami Beach.. I have no problem with the addition of the GWL to PKI, it will definitely be welcome, but what mgmt did was wrong... The PKI C/G was in bad repair and needed to be updated.. Tearing it down and starting over would not have been unrealistic, but they had to maintain it this year untill construction began, which is right now.. It could have been open..

Now look at our figures.. Instead of 50-60 people, with season passes, staying 10 days, you had less than 20 for 5days.. So if they count each 1st entrance to the park, that means at least 500, but this year less than 100... How many other groups, business or family outings lost out?

Camping out we saw numerous $500K+ motorhomes park at the sites, and stay multiple days.. I'm sure that they dropped a bundle of cash there..

My point is that mgmt should have had a plan in place for the camping segment, instead they have alienated a large group of long time guests. Like I said before, no C/G for 2006, no S/Pass .. Might stop by for a day, on our way to Carowinds, or PKD...

Rick

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There are other campgrounds around PKI and they are not that far. The one i mentioned before with Morgans Campgrounds is no more then 15 min away from the park. Its very nice and right on the Little Miami River and you can canoe w/ them too! So, just b/c KI no longer has a c/g does not mean anything. You look hard enough and u can find other c/g if not better!

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It's also been rumored that the campground may make a come back, but in a different location.

Obviously, with the growing interest in these types of places to stay, it is a very smart move on their part. It gets people to stay there year round, which you cannot say that for the campground.

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It's also been rumored that the campground may make a come back, but in a different location.

What about behind the Waterpark? The other day I saw a crane behind the waterpark, but on the Kings Island side of Western Row Road. I don't know if that is PKI property or what. But if it is - then the crane was back in an area of the park where there really is nothing. Now there might be support stuff back there - like power or water equipment - I don't know. That is just what I saw.

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