Over the shoulder harness

[screamingnight]

I heard when Flight of Fear had the over the shoulder harness it hurt alot! I also heard that it was not a very good ride. Is this true?

[loganrun]

It was not good at all!

[BoddaH1994]

It is very true. I remember riding it in '96 and getting off every time with a headache. I also remember ride ops instructing everyone to remove any percings they may have before getting on the ride.

[TopThrill]

I do remeber the headache's that you got from ride FOF. I like the lap bars better.

[Captain Picard]

FOF used our heads like a boxer uses speed bags.

[FOF/Z 4-ever]

The new restriants are a lot better and gives you more of the free fall effect thru out the ride.

[dionmarx]

If you were wearing earings, chances were good that you would come off the ride bleeding.. A helmet should have been required riding apparel when the otsr's were in use... I would only ride it once during our weekly stay, but now it is an everday ride.. Only wish that they did not slow it down in the middle..

Rick

[bdboy007]

why was it slowed down in the middle?

[KIBeast]

^I'm sure it had a MCBR (mid-course brake run) just like most coasters. This mostly prevents two cars being in the same section of track at the same time.

"I also remember ride ops instructing everyone to remove any percings they may have before getting on the ride."

Don't know if you noticed this, Ryan, but inside the ship before you load, there is still a sign reminding you to remove your earrings. I rode it back then and it was rough and there was a lot of head banging. I also heard that they got better wheels for the cars as well which helped to improve on the roughness.

[bdboy007]

It is alot smoother this year than it was a 3 years ago when I last rode it, And I think it was rougher 3 years ago then when it first opened

[pyrocoasterkid]

FOF was ALOT worse w/ OTSR's... The headbanging was awful....not much fun at all...

With the new harnesses, the ride feels totally different...For the better..

[FOF/Z 4-ever]

It is alot smoother this year than it was a 3 years ago when I last rode it, And I think it was rougher 3 years ago then when it first opened

it opened up in 2006. Next season will be its 10th running season

Long live FoF!!!!!

As for as the mid-coarse bracking, they bring it back every once in a while. They normally do it if the trains are going too fast. There really isnt much of a need for it now since they are running 2 trains, but back when it was 3 trains, they were used all the time. I think they are using it now b/c it still gets rough, esp right before the cork-screw.

[Gordon Bombay]

I used to hate FOF when I first rode it with the OTSR's, the lap bars are not only more comfortable but make the ride even more exciting with the free fall effect as FOF/Z said. FOF is a fantastic ride, the only problem is theres no signs or videos or voice recordings instructing people how to use the seatbelts.

Also, does anyone remember if there was more room with the OTSR's? Today I worked FOF and many people who were to big or too tall to ride said it was much easier to fit when they had OTSR's.

[FOF/Z 4-ever]

Yes, the old restains allowed bigger people to ride b/c it gave them more room. The new restraints are smaller, and taller people can not ride. Those seat belts are a pain the neck, let me tell you. I made up speils so that people will know how to use them. Appearntly, the new current sups are teaching their crew to do this. Oh well.

[Gordon Bombay]

FOF/z, why do they only run 2 trains now? Were 3 trains purchased when they switched to the lap bar trains? I noticed today while working that only trains 2 and 3 were running. Ive also heard rumors that when FOF opened it had 4 trains. Can you answer any of these questions?

[FOF/Z 4-ever]

FoF was bulit and designed for 4 trains with 6 cars on each train. I believed it used to run with all 4 trains, but b/c of it setting up too much, they took it down to 3 trains and train 4 was left for parts. They ran 3 trains up until 2001 when they redid the restraints. They took away the 3rd train b/c the crew was running to slow and the park decided that the ride was better off with only 2 trains. Every year, they rotate the trains. In 2001, It was train 1 and 2 i think and 2002, it was tains 1 and 3 and this year, as you said, trains 2 and 3. Sometimes, if one train has a lot of trouble, they will take it off, go down to 1 train for that night and bring in the other train to replace the one they took off. Hope this helps!

Also, rumor has it and not from a reliable source that they were going to go back to 6 cars per train since they are now running 2 trains.

[Captain Picard]

I was told the mid-coarse braking has to do with the amount of weight on the train. I have been on them both PKI and PKD when it worked and didn't. I don't think they can just turn it off.

[FOF/Z 4-ever]

The ride ops cant, but maintance can and may at the beginning of the day, but not in the middle of the day b/c they have to be up there to do it. It could be due to weight and or speed. I just know they havent used them in awhile, nut until just recently.

[HelixSpiral]

I'm pretty sure that maintenance can adjust the trimming from the PLC room, not from the brake area itself. The trimming is determined by the control system, not by changing anything on the brakes.

[FOF/Z 4-ever]

i dunno. im not maintance. i just know there are controls up there that they are always messing with.

[Jasper]

I never rode it with them but my aunt did and it made her ears bleed where it pushed he earrings back in her head.

[Spideyfreak]

FoF was bulit and designed for 4 trains with 6 cars on each train. I believed it used to run with all 4 trains, but b/c of it setting up too much, they took it down to 3 trains and train 4 was left for parts. They ran 3 trains up until 2001 when they redid the restraints. They took away the 3rd train b/c the crew was running to slow and the park decided that the ride was better off with only 2 trains. Every year, they rotate the trains. In 2001, It was train 1 and 2 i think and 2002, it was tains 1 and 3 and this year, as you said, trains 2 and 3. Sometimes, if one train has a lot of trouble, they will take it off, go down to 1 train for that night and bring in the other train to replace the one they took off. Hope this helps!

Also, rumor has it and not from a reliable source that they were going to go back to 6 cars per train since they are now running 2 trains.

Sorry to bring up an old topic but I didn't think it was worth making a new one.

What did you mean by the ride setting up? I heard that rides do this but what exactly is it and what causes it?

[flightoffear1996]

I think he means that the trains where stacking. The over the sholder restraints never really bothered me much but when they had them I was too small for my head to hit them and it kept the line down!

[HelixSpiral]

A set-up is when a train reaches a brake or top of a lift, and the block ahead is still occupied by another train. The tailing train stops on the brake or lift.

[FOF/Z 4-ever]

^Yes, that is what I meant. Just means that one bock is occopied by a train causing the 2nd train to stop in the next set of brakes. This is for safety reasons of course.

[Gordon Bombay]

I never rode it with them but my aunt did and it made her ears bleed where it pushed he earrings back in her head.

I wouldve walked her around to the signs that say "Remove earrings and jewelry" and made her listen to the voice recording that warned you to do so untill her ears bled again, not trying to sound mean, but I hate it when people dont pay attention to the warning around them. Does your aunt ride it now with the lap bars?

[BoddaH1994]

^Yes, that is what I meant. Just means that one bock is occopied by a train causing the 2nd train to stop in the next set of brakes. This is for safety reasons of course.

This brings up a couple of points:

I recall when it opened, when a train's launch was delayed for one reason or another, the next train to come into the station would be locked into the brakes right before the tunnel which returns the train to the station. It did ruin the themeing a little bit because a lot of times you could clearly hear the hiss of the brakes, and even sometimes you could see the corner of the train poking out of the darkness.

Also, if yout want to talk about a good idea for a block system to run 3 trains, why not completely stop the train at the mid-course brakes? Maybe distract the riders with some sort of flashing light show (similar to when the goddess gets ****ed off on Tomb Raider) before sending the train through the 2nd half of the track? I know it's kind of out there, but you would have an added themed ride experience, it would lengthen the ride, and you may be able to run 3 trains if it's done correctly. Just my two cents.

I too remember seeing sings and hearing announcements about removing any earings. The ride used to be a painful experience even without earings.

[FOF/Z 4-ever]

^ That would be a very good idea. Would make the ride better off altogether. FOF used to run with 3 trains up until 2001. In 2001, one of the trains were having problems and took it off for the year. In 2002, they said we could have it back if we could get our capicity up (because we were running really slow in the beginning). We did get our capacity up, but Kings Island decided to only keep FOF running with only 2 trains for what ever reason. But I still liked your idea Boddah.

[Spideyfreak]

A set-up is when a train reaches a brake or top of a lift, and the block ahead is still occupied by another train. The tailing train stops on the brake or lift.

Thanks.

[Gordon Bombay]

Maybe distract the riders with some sort of flashing light show (similar to when the goddess gets ****ed off on Tomb Raider) before sending the train through the 2nd half of the track? I know it's kind of out there, but you would have an added themed ride experience, it would lengthen the ride, and you may be able to run 3 trains if it's done correctly. Just my two cents.

Im sure the theming and lights would stop working after the first few months that they put it in with the way Kings Island seems to keep up its other theming.