screamingnight Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I know this is a stupid idiotic idea and the park would never do it but oh well here it goes . . . Maybe take Son of Beast down. Few years later buld again but this time let Gravity Group build it with steel supports and a different matrial of wood. Make the loop a little bigger and the second hill a tad bit bigger. What do you think of my idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Sounds feasable, but you're looking about $50 million when all is said and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Well, I think that it'll take a while for them to take SOB down. It'll probably be SBNO for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex31 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 If SOB were to be torn down and rebuilt I hope they would be more creative and do a few more things to it. Being that SOB is the first looping woodie why not add another loop,corkscrew or other inversion? I think if its torn down though it won't be coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Son of Beast was not the first looping woodie. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkifootballer Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 What was the first looping woodie then, because i've never heard of any others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 First? Who knows? There were many. Most were called Flip-Flap. There was one in Louisville. Many customers got broken necks from them, in the early 19oo's. Here's a link to the one in Louisville: http://www.rcdb.com/id2336.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkifootballer Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Oh i know about those, i ment like real wooden coasters like beast or raven or ones you see today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 So older wooden coasters were not "real?" Whatever that means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Ackbar Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Yes - I wish that one was still around. An inverting woodie in my home town of Louisville! There were plenty of REAL inverting wood coasters. They pulled extreme amounts of G force - like over 7 Gs. They were downright dangerous. Keep in mind the Clothoid Vertical Loop wasn't invented until the 1970s - interestingly enough by the man who designed Son of Beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 PKI marketed SOB as the the ONLY wooden looping coaster, not the first. I have many books with old photos of looping woodies from the early 1900's. Most of them had cirlce shaped loops instead of the tear drop shape like you see today and they werent very sucessful back then. It wasn't untill Anton Scwhartzkoph built the revolution that the modern looping coaster really took off. SOB is the first modern looping wooden coaster, but not the first in history by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Ackbar Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Hey Werner Stengel invented the Clothoid Vertical Loop - for Revolution. The coaster itself was made by Anton Schwarzkopf. Stengel is known for two major contributions to roller coasters - the clothoid loop and heartlining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkifootballer Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ya i know what you mean. Somne of those old coasters were almost too intense. But I also know what you mean withall of that modernizing stuff with the loops. I would like to see sob stay but with maybe a smoother track or less track or something to make it fun and wld, but with way less injury or problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex31 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Ackbar Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I think we should contract pinfari to redo Son of Beast. It would be OUTSTANDING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I think we should contract pinfari to redo Son of Beast. It would be OUTSTANDING! I can think of only one worse possibility. Tomb Raider at Wonderland. Zamperla and flying coaster. Two things that should NEVER go together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Ackbar Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 You don't like the Volares? I thought Super Flight at Praeter was alot better than Tomb Raider IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Whatever. I also heard you liked Manhattan Express at New York, New York. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Ackbar Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Eh - it was OK. I like Ninja at SFOG better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingnight Posted August 3, 2006 Author Share Posted August 3, 2006 PKI marketed SOB as the the ONLY wooden looping coaster, not the first. I have many books with old photos of looping woodies from the early 1900's. Most of them had cirlce shaped loops instead of the tear drop shape like you see today and they werent very sucessful back then. It wasn't untill Anton Scwhartzkoph built the revolution that the modern looping coaster really took off. SOB is the first modern looping wooden coaster, but not the first in history by any means. Could you scan those pictures from your books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Sure, if I can find them and if the scanner works. Probably in a few days, and if i can find them I'll PM you cause I'll be working all day for the next few days. You can use google too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingnight Posted August 3, 2006 Author Share Posted August 3, 2006 Thanks Man! ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I don't care what they do to the ride, I just want it reopen. It may not be the best ride at PKI but I do enjoy it when it don't beat me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I don't care what they do to the ride, I just want it reopen. It may not be the best ride at PKI but I do enjoy it when it don't beat me up. Those last six words are a good reason why I wonder when and if it will reopen. Most people don't ride as much as you no doubt do. And they certainly would not expect those last six words to be something they should even be thinking about on a day of planned fun and amusement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Attack! Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Here is what I would do: I would nock out the rosebowl or at least that is what I think it is called, have you go down the hill and then have some terrain track, then you would go up a small lift hill and go into the look and hopefully the rest of the track will be made smoother. I just don't know why they had to put so many helixs on the ride that is like all it is and I don't think that they are a whole lot of fun, your comments welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingnight Posted August 3, 2006 Author Share Posted August 3, 2006 I always dreaded the rose bowl. It beat the hell outta me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIROCKS06 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 what is the rose bowl part of the ride??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingnight Posted August 3, 2006 Author Share Posted August 3, 2006 its the thing after the second hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIfan73 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I honestly started to avoid SOB starting last fall. I'm not a spring chicken (33), and I honestly felt like the couple times I have been in a car accident after I rode it. I really hate it for the park, because it was such a huge undertaking, and sucha great concept. I've never liked its placement, either. To me, it almost seems like an afterthought. Like, its just kind of out on the outskirts, and has such a nondescript queue. Of course, The Beast is WAY out there, but I don't get the same feeling with it. I really hope I'm in the minority, and they can get it up and running SAFELY asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I just don't know why they had to put so many helixs on the ride that is like all it is and I don't think that they are a whole lot of fun, your comments welcome Not trying to sound mean, but, there are only two helixes on Son of Beast. It's only one more than The Beast. I really don't think that they are that bad, except at the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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