sayhi Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 I work at a park CF park that previously had snoopy on the logo and now saw info that has the CF corporate logo instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Now if they'd just show us some good entertainment! Well this is a good start. It's perty darn nice to see all the P stuff go by the wayside. How is it they say? Don't let the door hit ya in the ...... They didn't. Mr. Weber is now at Palace Entertainment, where he will doubtless give Mr. Kinzel a run for his money. Funny, Mr. Kinzel could have kept him, but CHOSE to let him go and become a competitor. Go figure! Personally I hope Al Weber gives Kinzel a run for his money, unless that is Mr. Weber wants to buy all the prototype water rides so Palace ent. can be known as "innovators" like Paramount parks were. Oh well, the paramount may be gone and some consider that mountain in front of the tower to be as bad as the nazi flag flying over France in 1941. Like you Woofer, I'm hoping CF will bring good things to a park that had its good and awful years under Paramount, it will be interesting to see if Kinzel breaks his strategy of "Make Cedar Point awesome and treat the other parks like crap". -CombatStupendous89......who has never been impressed with a Cedar Fair park except Cedar Point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Why is the trademark after Car in Carowinds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstrwomann Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 I like the old logo with Paramount better. The new one is too plain and boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Why is the trademark after Car in Carowinds? Because it is. Seriously, though, that registered symbol can appear anywhere in the mark. It doesn't have to be at the beginning or end. You will sometimes see TM instead. That means the holder claims the mark but has not yet registered it. Only those who have notice of that claim are prevented from using it. Once registered, the world is on notice the mark is claimed. To protect it, though, the holder must demand that infringers stop and sue if they don't. See what happened to aspirin, cellophane, escalator, etc. This is why Coke, Pepsi, Xerox, BandAids and Kleenex, among many others, are so zealous about their marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Personally I hope Al Weber gives Kinzel a run for his money, unless that is Mr. Weber wants to buy all the prototype water rides so Palace ent. can be known as "innovators" like Paramount parks were. Oh well, the paramount may be gone and some consider that mountain in front of the tower to be as bad as the nazi flag flying over France in 1941. Like you Woofer, I'm hoping CF will bring good things to a park that had its good and awful years under Paramount, it will be interesting to see if Kinzel breaks his strategy of "Make Cedar Point awesome and treat the other parks like crap". -CombatStupendous89......who has never been impressed with a Cedar Fair park except Cedar Point. That was actually a fantastic analogy that I had never thought of. Paramount was like an occupation of our good parks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Oh, good grief! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Oh, good grief! I'm happy to see that you're getting into the Peanuts Spirit Interp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 I'm happy to see that you're getting into the Peanuts Spirit Interp! Just keep telling yourself the PP stood for Peppermint Patty. Or was it Pig Pen? I forget... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersNSich Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 See what happened to aspirin, cellophane, escalator, etc. This is why Coke, Pepsi, Xerox, BandAids and Kleenex, among many others, are so zealous about their marks. Yes, until around 1950, Escalator was a trademark of the Otis Elevator Company. Competitors, like Westinghouse and Haughton, called their similar devices Electric Stairway and Moving Stairs, respectively. However, Otis failed to police their trademark, so now, we call anything that has moving steps with a handrail that matches the movement of the stairs, an escalator - even if it's made by Otis, Fujitec, Kone, Schindler, or other companies, past and present. On the other hand, I don't see some guy with a few carnival rides and such, naming his business "Carowinds"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Why not? In Nashville, Cedar Fair recently had to take issue with a guy who was calling a few carnival rides and such "Valley Fair." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Well, Ronny, I believe that the trademark in Pepsi appears after the second p. (At least it used to). While I like the new logo, it seems too simple. I was hoping that with Cedar Fair, we would receive a custom logo, different from the rest of the parks. This obviousely is not going to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Not necessarily...this could be a transitional logo to be used while park specific logos are developed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Well, Ronny, I believe that the trademark in Pepsi appears after the second p. Did I ask about Pepsi trademarks? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Hmmm....perhaps Pepsi trademarks will have some relevancy come spring at Kings Island? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 I'm happy to see that you're getting into the Peanuts Spirit Interp! Just keep telling yourself the PP stood for Peppermint Patty. Or was it Pig Pen? I forget... I normally wake up and ask Auntie Em if it was all just a dream. <G> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 See what happened to aspirin, cellophane, escalator, etc. This is why Coke, Pepsi, Xerox, BandAids and Kleenex, among many others, are so zealous about their marks. Yes, until around 1950, Escalator was a trademark of the Otis Elevator Company. Competitors, like Westinghouse and Haughton, called their similar devices Electric Stairway and Moving Stairs, respectively. However, Otis failed to police their trademark, so now, we call anything that has moving steps with a handrail that matches the movement of the stairs, an escalator - even if it's made by Otis, Fujitec, Kone, Schindler, or other companies, past and present. On the other hand, I don't see some guy with a few carnival rides and such, naming his business "Carowinds"... Obviously an escalator will take you up, so one that goes down would be called a desendalator right? Now what about a moving side walk, would that be a parallelalator? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelixSpiral Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Not necessarily...this could be a transitional logo to be used while park specific logos are developed... Doubtful. The "Kings Island" in Cedar Fair script with the corporate logo now appears on the park's paperwork as well as the sign on Western Row Rd. going into the employee entrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Well, as silly as it may sound - Letterhead and Signage are very telling. They tend to be expenses that most businesses do not like to often change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Right. I mean how many logos has the park had since it opened? While there were special ones, like for the 20th, 25th and 30th anniversaries (this year is the 35th anniversary), they still featured the same basic logo for that period. You have thing Kings Island in the gothic script, the original PKI logo, and then the second version of the PKI logo that was very similiar to the first PKI logo, which debuted ten years after the original Paramount logo. So, as much as I hate to say it, I think that this logo will be around for at least a few years, possibly on the order of ten years, if not permanentely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI-ORIG-EMP Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I think one thing we all can agree on is that the "paramount" will not be part of any new logo design and that Kings Island (and other parks) will be know just by their original name instead of "Paramount" <insert name>. It will not be known at Cedar Fair Kings Island but just Kings Island with maybe the CF logo pictured. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIfan73 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 A modernized version of this would have been neat: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 That was the very first logo, and was used to advertise the park at Coney its last few years. Not sure how long they used that as their logo before going to the gothic font. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Check out www.miadventure.com It seems they have gone corporate with their logo, too. Sign of things to come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclaimer Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 That kinda sucks...I was hoping we could avoid the corporate logo thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI-ORIG-EMP Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 The new Kings Island logo that is on the season passes is what the logo will look like. I ask the guy in HR about it when I dropped off my rehire packet. He showed me the letter head with the very same logo on it and said it is the logo that will be used. It is also the same design that is on the sign as you drive through the employee entrance. Just a matter of time before they replace the BIG sign out front, if not this year or next. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 If they stop using the Paramount's, and all indications are that they are going to, I can't imagine that big sign existing as is on April 21, 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubaman Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I think PKIC should hold a contest to see who (Being site members) could come up with a better logo for KI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Woofer's just happy it don't got no mountains. Cedar Fair is gonna do what Cedar Fair is gonna do. We should just be happy the park is gonna open and things are gonna be flying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclaimer Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Phht...the new logos are back up on the flash animations (except KI's) KD also has their new logo in the media center. Of note is the flag is now only over the last "i" in the park's name, rather than all three "i"s. http://www3.paramountparks.com/KingsDominion/news/index.cfm http://www3.paramountparks.com/KingsDomini....cfm?item_id=66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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