Man Arrested After Fight At Great Wolf Lodge

[Guest kwindshawne]

Maybe this incident will get that particular bucket turned off-otherwise you will have a few drunken fools who take it upon themselves to fix the problem their way.

[WooferBearATL]

From the Great Wolf lodge Rules and Regulations handbook.

There are inherent risks in the participation in or any amusement ride or attraction. You have a duty to exercise good judgment and act in a responsible manner while participating on the ride or attraction and to obey all oral and/or written warnings. You also have a duty to properly use all ride or attraction safety equipment provided.

In this case the entire Waterpark area is considered a attraction. Attraction defined as a an entertainment offered to the public or members. The question at hand is who to what degree of bad judgment both subjects made. The bad judgment of the man walking around a waterpark in clothing he did intend to get wet. Or the bad judgment of the child of splashing the man in street cloths with the water.

Lets look at some information...

The fact is the man was in a dangerous area (in terms of getting wet) if he did not intend to get wet. The child was at fault when it comes down to his moral values, rather than rules or law. Should the child have the morals and self discipline to not spray the man? In my opinion yes, but the man should have had the intelligence to know that hes entering a hostile environment for his intentions of staying dry.

Personal experience as I outlayed in my last posts says that the general perception in entering a waterpark such as those found in Great Wolf Lodge is at your own risk. I was encouraged to take pictures of the attraction but at the sametime, strongly discouraged from bringing two thousand dollars of camera equipment into the central portions waterpark itself.

I still am judging this in favor of the child. The grown up man should have excercised good judgment to not enter the waterpark area in cloths he did not intend to get wet. Which is in essence against the rules of the Great Wolf Lodge itself.

Amen Dane!

As posted previously, I can't even believe that this is an issue! It's a WATER PARK.

If you're going to be harmed by being splashed, this is not the hotel for you.

[The Interpreter]

Dane, the victim (who was smashed in the head with a beer bottle [which reportedly broke in the process according to Cinci tv reports] after he allegedly doused the alleged assailant, his wife and child) was 37.

The alleged assailant was 36. We are not talking children here--at least not chronologically.

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I can understand that some fell that if one enters a water park then they should expect to get wet and is a valid judgment. But since I have witnessed this area in question and also seen the set up of this water park and know the fact that 90% of the guest haft to go under this section with their personal items clothed our not, I really think that that the location of these two buckets is causing more harm than good. All the life guards come to work with street clothes on and haft to go through this area before they change into their gear. I witnessed a woman carrying an infant get half splashed and I wanted to go up and tell the kids to not dump buckets on babies myself. This is on the main path going into the water park. Some have said that the whole place is an attraction but I don’t think one would like to get water dumped on them while sitting in the food court area or the bar area or even while sitting in the lounge chairs. Accidental splashing does occur in those areas and that’s ok but no one should expect to have buckets of water dumped on them in the common areas.

I have put a lot of thought to this and I find that: kids will be kids and if an adult is stupid enough to do what the 37 year old man did to a fully clothed man and his family then he also took a risk of not knowing who he was dealing with. PLUS I think that Great Wolf Lodge is fully aware of this very controversial area and should be held accountable if they leave that area as is. By further bad press or unhappy guest, I have told many stories that I have witnessed from senior citizens, infants, and a family man having two buckets of water dumped on $40.00 worth of food as he HAD to pass under this area to get his family.

I feel that giving the kids (young and old) an opportunity to carry-out a mischievous act onto unsuspecting guest above a main walk through area would not be worth a bad experience from the ones who make the decisions to go to the Great Wolf Lodge, just ask any of those who has had this happen to them what they think.

Keep in mind that the Great Wolf Lodge targets families who can afford $225.00-$500.00 a night for a room and also for business conference professionals. Do they really want them to be subjected to this type of behavior just because "it’s a Water Park". Who are they trying to please here?

[Gordon Bombay]

What Dane said is very true, however it was an immature 36 year old man who sprayed the fully clothed family. Yes, while they shouldve been smarter to not walk around in their full clothes, the middle aged man who sprayed them shouldve had the same common sense not to spray them. There are dining areas for fast food and shops in the water where they have chairs where you can sit and eat a meal. Some of these are in danger of getting wet. Like woofer said, its a water park, but as th interpreter was right in correcting him....its an indoor one with other ammenities right next to the water attractions.

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Let me just make it a simple analogy;

If you feel that it is ok for all guest who take their first step into a water park should have 2 buckets of water poured over them immediately, with out knowing it's comming after their first step into the park is ok. O’matter what they are wearing at the time, their age and what personal items that they may be carrying, including food items, camera’s, babies, change of clothes to go home with..ect. Then you will think that were these buckets are placed is fair game.

If you feel that guest should at least be able to get to the changing room, find some seating arrangements or to be able to carry food back to their families seating areas before having 2 buckets of water dumped on them. Then you will think that these 2 buckets are ill placed.

There really is no difference to doing it at the doors as they walk in or as to were these 2 buckets are placed.

Please note that this is a hotel water park and if guest arrive before their room is ready they are invited to go ahead and enjoy the water park , while they wait. These guest have no choice but to enter the water park fully clothed then to change once they have entered and possibly they would like to find seats first to meet back-up, after changing .

I have visited a total of 7 various water parks in my days and the Great Wolf Lodge is the only one that I have witnessed that makes it difficult for guest to at least do the basic things before getting 2 buckets full of water dumped on them. Or for mothers to go change their babies without the need for this to happen each time or for a proud father to carry food back to his family. At least give them a convenient way to get around this one particular water hazard area.

[The Interpreter]

I know one thing. If I and my family or friends had booked that place for a week, and on my way to my room I or anyone in my party got doused by that ill-placed bucket, I would be cancelling my reservation, demanding a refund of any deposit, and leaving at once, NEVER to return. If the same thing happened at ANY time during my stay to any fully clothed member of my party, we would be leaving at once.

And if I were silly enough to book a business conference in that place and that happened to any member of the party, we would also be leaving, NEVER to return.

This needs fixed.

If a high priced hotel thinks it is reasonable for fully clothed guests to be doused by water from an ill-ly placed bucket, it is not a place for me or for a business conference of any sort.

Reasonable places of accomodation do not make such things so easily possible. This is just ridiculous.

[CoastersRZ]

Not only can it irritate guests, which is obviously something that a business wouldn`t want to happen, but it could as the Interpreter said, keep them from returning to the resort.

It is likely a glitch that slipped through the cracks. The architectural firm that designed the GWL, Architectural Design Consultants, Inc. (ADCI) based out of Wisconsin, likely didn`t coordinate the circulation flow through that area of the hotel with the water play place manufacturer. Obviousely, as every one is in agreement, this is a glitch that needs to be rectified as soon as possible to avoid alienating potential repeat customers with such a negative experience.

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They have two rows of lounge chairs in front of the wave pool, the second row has around 9-12 chairs that guests won’t use because the water from these buckets splash up and hit those chars after the water hit’s the ground there. I watched several kids go down and push those chairs closer to the Fort Water Activity area to force the guest to stay tight to the wall so that they can make a direct hit on the guests. My suggestion would be to move those 9-12 chairs so that guest would be able to navigate around that area better.

It is very common and seen quite regularly to see folks walking around the common areas fully clothed. I saw several suites giving tours of the place and when they came to this section they pointed this area out and walked the guest around that area. We also saw a lot of people coming in to check the place out.

Just to make sure, you will have 0% chance of getting wet in any manor at the Great Wolf Lodge if you are outside the designated water park area (baring a sever spilling a glass of water).

[Delirium_Guy]

Having gone to the water park for the first time tonight, allow me to chime in! Woofer, yes this is a water park. Yes, I was there to get wet. However, in order to get to any *safe* areas to drop my stuff off you have to walk through the *danger zone* with the buckets! This would be like you walking through the entrance of Boomerang Bay then immediately getting 2 buckets of water dumped on you! I'm sorry, I would be ****ed. While most guests can leave items such as phones and such in their rooms, those who are awaiting a room may not have that option. Likewise those with small children may need to bring additional items into the park with them that are not meant to get wet. I agree that its kind of a poor design from that aspect of things.

Aside from this, what a fabulous place! Water park is terriffic and far superior to Boomerang Bay, IMHO, in terms of fun. The water coaster was down. They are apparently having a lot of issues. ProSlide has been on site for several days. While I only went in for the water park tonight, I'm looking forward to returning and staying for the night.

- Todd

[italianchef]

I'm headed there in a few weeks. I hope that my family will have fun at the Great Wolf Lodge.

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Delirium Guy; from your post it sounds like the two mischievous buckets are still in full operation and that no preventive measures have been made for safe passage for the valued guests.

I know that my family will make frequent trips over to GWL because there is so much to do there and it’s a great get away for us during the winter months.

I must differ with you on one aspect though; Boomerang Bay is better especially when its fully staffed and they have bands playing. Except in three very big note worthy categories, Great Wolf Lodge has shorter lines, the the best water pressure in the area and the water is heated. I cant stand going to the beach with it’s water pressure problems, one time I actually got up and walked down a water slide at the Beach. Boomerang Bay is rapidly catching up to The Beaches poor water pressure problems too.