The Interpreter

Perhaps a Cinci Enquirer writer, one who is NOT a park expert, should wander up Cedar Point way and write a similar screed. Might be amusing! Then Mr. Kinzel could sit down and read both....

When much that is written is either flat out wrong or very misleading, I doubt that I will give much weight to the 'tidbits.' At most, this is the perspective of a guest at KI who had not been there before, a guest who has much reverence for things at Cedar Point; a reverence he darn sure better have, given who he is employed by. It also must be rememebered that the tactic of poking gentle fun at those yokels who live 'over there' is a timeworn one, one that generally works well. Heck, we are talking about this article, which we might not be otherwise...

I'd be willing to do that, if the Sandusky Register writer also takes a step back and takes Cedar Point off the high pedestal he apparently keeps it on. Then again, he knows where his paycheck comes from. . . He isn't paid to be unbiased...he's paid to write for the local Sandusky audience, a task he does quite well. For instance: * Cedar Point also sells beer. Unlike at Kings Island, one can wander all over Cedar Point with open containers of beer, last I checked. * Cedar Point also has commercialization all over the park, just for different things. Lastly, it must be remembered that soon, for that Sandusky writer and for us all, Cedar Point and Kings Island will be kin.

I'm still trying to get over Scooby Doo, built years before Beast was ever thought of, being a miniature Beast. And no classic rides in Nick? What the heck is Fairly Odd? Where oh where is CP's miniature wood? Don't anyone tell them the flume is in Rivertown....or where it came from. Sigh. I see this as a typical article about parks by someone who knows virtually nothing about parks, cares even less about parks and proves it, in spades. And Fishers is an Indy suburb. I have many friends there. It's a nice place.

"They" SAID it had to do with Outer Limits Flight of Fear's entrance...but I doubt that. I think it either reduced maintenance costs and/or was needed for the conversion from the skid brakes. Most likely the latter...

Right, CaastersRZ! In fact, his contract runs until January 2008. Nothing in the deal with CBS that has been made public requires he stay until then (and just why would CBS care? This is a cash deal...that's what they wanted...out, and with cash to pay off some of their own debt). Instead, Mr. Kinzel's current Cedar Fair contract requires/allows him to stay until at least January 2008. And his pride and his expertise will no doubt have him stay longer, provided his health and life situation allow that. Nor is this news, much less breaking. This was in the business press nearly a week ago: http://www.crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.d...26021/1025/2020 That all being said, hopefully the executive bench at Cedar Fair (and Paramount Parks) is a lot more than one deep. They are going to need a LOT of really good people to pull this off. And some people WILL leave. They always do when something like this happens. Some by choice. . .

Well, that too! Seriously, what I meant was that the final hill was removed from each side some time ago...first the forward side one year, then the backwards the next. This was during the mid-late nineties. I think that is what you are missing...

Virtually all the Kings Island flats cycle longer than the flats do at Cedar Point. It will be interesting to see what effect, if any, the acquistion has on this. That being said, if anything, MaXair seems to have a longer cycle than Delirium, in my experience.

I don't remember much, if any, public relations problems when Cedar Fair removed them from the former Six Flags Worlds of Adventure. Then again, there didn't seem to be any bad security incidents thereafter. The nightmare would be if there were an incident involving a fire arm inside the park after the removal of the detectors.

Actually it was the HILLS that were still in place!

...and the flip down bars and skid brakes...and when you boarded from the outside edge of the station, instead of the center...and there was two stop unload/load! And no one had ever thought to turn one of them around backwards!

That's why I was being nice! I think he's doing quite well...no over the shoulder restraints needed (like Flight of Fear had when it opened!)

Hi! You might want to read the entire thread before replying. It's open again.

Were they that way all day? If so, that is uncommon. But for one of the trains to sit on the lift a while is not all that unusual. A bit unusual for both of them to be, really.

Your baby's open again, by all accounts. Just had to have a good lookin' at.

I wonder if next year during the parade we will be able to see der fair?

Good. Assuming it is running today. I bet Hulk is running, too. And that entire second list of coasters like WT. Not all sources are always right. One reason for asking here!

Because I'd like to know!

I take it Italian Job is open, right?

I know...but I have my reasons for asking...

Now I am hearing that Vertical Velocity, both Steel Venoms, Wicked Twister and V2 are all also down... Anybody know about Hulk?

Regardless, now CF can go to both and say we are going to keep one or the other (if they want to do that). Make them bid against each other. A synergy!

Would Flight of Fear happen to be closed at Kings Island today? Anyone know? I hear that both Mr. Freeze's, Joker's Jinx, Poltergeist and Batman and Robin: The Chiller are all closed today.

Cedar Fair no doubt doesn't care about 'fit.' They care, as ItalianChef pointed out, about making money. And whichever franchise best serves the bottom line in a given park is what they will do.

It was one thing when they were fifty cents. But at five dollars (which some of them are in some parks), this certainly is getting darn close to gambling, if it isn't. Then again, many if not most of the prizes are no longer even worth what you pay to play. Most come from China. I bet anything the cost on those basketballs is much less than the cost to play. And the annoying BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE drives me batty. But anyway, this was a School of Rock thread. An awesome show. Well worth seeing. And those were great pix!