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Well anyway no I'm not comparing the modern day Kings Island to Cedar Point... in fact the year I went to Cedar Point, I went to KI twice that summer. I can't even tell you how many times I've been to Kings Island, in fact it was my amusement park at age 8, and my first coaster I ever rode was The Vortex (which is probably why its my favorite). Honestly with Cedar Point, it was just the poor choice of scheduling for the youth group i went with in 1996. If we had gone on a different day I might like it more. I usually try to completely avoid all parks on a Saturday, in fact thats the only park I've ever been too on saturday! Acctually our wedding's going to be on friday, and on saturday we are just going to play in the waterpark in the great wolf lodge. Sunday we are leaving KI and heading up towards Cedar Point, where we will be staying for 3 nights and 2 days in one of their resorts, and Wednesday we leave Cedar Point to head for Six Flags Great america. Wednesday night we'll just hang out in downtown chicago, then Thursday and Friday we will spend at the park. Thats our Wedding and Honey Moon for next year! Oh BTW Kman6 my GF was just an half an inch from being able to ride tomb raider, but luckily there's a test harness outside of the ride so you don't have to chance the line if you know you can't ride it. She tells me she can't ride Flight of Fear either because the harnesses are like the itailian job except they come down and buckle.

No but I'm saying it dissapoints me. I'm giving CP another chance next year. it should be on a monday and tuesday that I go.. So I'm confused, I come on a Kings Island Website,and say I like Kings Island better than other amusement parks and i get attacked for it? Maybe this should be called "Cedar Point Central Forums"!

I'm just saying CP is known for its coasters, but IMO it doesn't have a true Steel Looping coaster? Vortex Ownz the Corkscrew!

Well all is just IMO. Places like Universal and Disney World, I can definitly see why they rank above places like Kings Island. For me a lot of the reason I feel the way I do about the 2 parks is by the time my family could afford to take me, I was 18 years old, and into thrill seeking experiences. At disney world it nearly is all shows, and at Universal its all movie simulation... not exactly thrill seeking. I feel like I was too old to really enjoy either of them. Had I gone as a small child I was of enjoyed it more, but I was acctually annoyed because I had missed out on hanging out with my friends during Spring Break! Cedar Point, you can see my reasons listed above, but yes when I went the only real serious coasters they had were Magnum XL200, Raptor, and Mean Streak. The rest at one point were awesome but had since been beaten by other rides. Honestly though it wasn't that, it was the youth group I went with's poor choice of date... they chose Saturday. Honestly after Cedar Point I was never the same. I swear I lost all patience at that park that day. Shortest wait was 45 minutes to get on the corkscrew, longest wait was 3 1/2 hours to get on the Raptor! Now that the point has constructed 5 or so more world class coasters, I'm definitly going to be giving it a second chance in the near future... and trust me it won't be a on a saturday this time! Six Flags Great America I acctually liked better than KI for the most part, but what killed it for me was their lack of a waterpark...in which they recently added. Above all for me Kings Island might rank above the rest for sentimental reasons. It was the first true theme park I had ever been too, and The Vortex was the first true coaster I had ever been on! So thats why Its my favorite

One thing they could start doing more is putting sample restraints outside for people to test before they got in line. Prior to Tomb Raider Breaking, My G/F got to test out the harness to see if it would fit, and it didn't, so wedidn't even waste our time.

Well I understand whats going on with D.Z. and S.O.B, just didn't get what was up with the rest of the park. I guess it just reminds me of my first visit to Kentucky Kingdom after Six Flags bought them. It was a lot of the same stuff, and Kentucky Kingdom never seemed to recover from it. In fact not only that but expansion slowed down on the park, and they even removed one of its signature coasters (vampire). But Kings Island is still Kings Island regardless of who owns it, after all this would be like the third owner in the parks history. I still had a blast during my trip there. As long as The Vortex is running I'm not going to complain (if you couldn't tell, the Tex is my favorite coaster, and quite possibly the only coaster that I ride everytime I go, and many times more than once. Set a new record this past trip with 4 times!). The Beast is almost like that except the one time I went there and S.O.B. was operational, I rode it twice and ignored The Beast. I found I acctually loved Italian Job, and Face Off, as I rode both of them twice. Congo Falls must have been re-engineered because you acctually get wet on the ride now! Hit that up twice too! Inspite of all the broken rides, it was a very good trip to KI don't get me wrong. I just hope the 6 or so rides that were down was just a fluke and not a shape of things to come.

Thats ashame too. I was only 13 years old when I went to Great America, but the Shockwave name stuck in my mind forever since It was kind of like a "Vortex on steroids". THe Whizzler I remember as being kind of like, meh, Adventure Express. A cool down ride, boring and unexciting. Acctually According to Wikipedia, The Shockwave was the sequel to The Vortex basically, as it was the same compay, Arrow Dynamics or something like that, and it was the coaster build directly after it.

What facts are you referring too? I go to a park under new owner ship, and Flight of Fear is down, Tomb Raider is Down, S.O.B is down, D.Z. Is Down, Delerium is down, and Firehawk is down. Other than the S.O.B. and the first year of the F.o.F. I've never seen any of the above broke during the paramount era! So that immediatly gives me a bad impression of the new owners! Who wouldn't think that?

Funny Stuff!

Honestly though its not really a complain towards Kings Island. Its a Complaint towards all of them on the restraints. This is America, the fattest country in the world. This is also the Home of the NFL and the NBA. There are a lot of people in this country that are "of exceptional size" in fact I'd wajor more so than small people. So isn't it time that Roller Coaster cars start getting bigger? I mean what if Shaq went to an amusement park? I had trouble with The Beast even when I was a kid, due to my height, and weight. Right now I'm 6'2, 250 pounds, but I was a tall kid as well. Lets face it, Midgets design roller coasters.

An employee at the park yesturday refferred the removal as the loop the "neturing of The Beast" lol I couldn't agree more. The loop didn't do much for the overall ride, but it kind of was the "grand finale as it seemed to be near the end of the ride. It won't be the same, but if thats what it takes to make the ride more reliable and safer I'm all for it. Much better than Six Flags Great America's answers for shockwave: It developed a fracture and they tore it down and completly scrapped it! I'd much rather have a loop-less Son of Beast than No Son of Beast

She was only about an inch away from riding The Beast so it should be all good in August. I really hope the Son of Beast is up and running by then. I've gone 4 times since its opened, and only one of those times it was acctually open. What did I think? It was so good that on the one time I was there when it was open, I had to ride it again. Probably one of the best coasters in the world easily, but considering it seems closed all the time, it makes me think "they tried so hard...but in the end nothing beats an original". Maybe the design of the original beast really is as good as it gets? Maybe the reasons all these records haven't been topped is because they simply can't safely and reliably build something better out of wood! I dunno but hopefully with the loop being gone, new cars, and other modifications, the SOB will stay open more often. I'm already looking foward to the August trip. We missed out on the waterpark because we forgot our swimsuits. I haven't been to Water Works since 1995 or so. Riding by it on the train made me realize how much I missed it

well everyone better be prepared for me. I'm very harsh at my critism of things. I'm very strongly opinionated and I can Rant like no one else. Thats me. Though I doubt I'll be a regular since I'm already a member of many of other forums, and right now its kind of the "roller coaster" high thats driving me to research and research everything. I acctually found this site, looking up Son of Beast on Wikipedia! Anyway I don't hate the park, but My first impression of Cedar Fair's parks in 1995 wasn't that great. And in 2007 my first trip to KI was awesome...but seemed like most of the changes of KI were for the worst. Honestly I won't really have a solid opinion on what to think untill the 2008 season when the full conversion is complete. I will say on a positive note, its good the first thing they did was add a new coaster!

I went there in 1996. Have you rode a coaster called "the Corkscrew"? Its just that. A section taken out of The Vortex basically. other than the Raptor, Magnum XL 2000, and the Mean streak (pretty weak in comparison to The Beast), everything else they had at the time was pretty weak. I find it odd that a park of this size doesn't have a Vortex-style coaster. That was one thing that definitly dissapointed me. The other rides I remember were the Gemini (weak), Blue streak (weak), a wild cat roller coaster (almost a fair ride), some indoor bobsled coaster, some top gun style coaster, and many other tiny coasters to add up their coaster count. Now they have Mantis, Millinium Force, Top Thrill Dragster, and Maverick. Prior to my visit, the only other park I had been too other than Kings Island was Six Flags Great America which I was quite impressed with(they had the shockwave...like The Vortex but even bigger. They've since Removed the ride, and I'm dissapointed, but at least they still have the Demon) But you gotta admit that Music sucks. Maybe Pantera and Megadeth are a bit extreme (hell I don't even like Megadeth, just used them as an example) but you get the point. How about some music people can tolerate? Anyone who works in a retail store sureley will hate the music. How about some classic rock? Maybe some AC/DC, Led Zeplin, Ozzy, Pink Floyed, Aerosmith, etc? Or just go back to Movie themes. I just really hate that station with a passion. Wait till you guys hear the "tenderness" song, or the "new shoes" song. I sit there and make fun of these songs working night stock on a dailey basis at my lowes store. As for My GF she's lost 50 pounds already this year. She's doing the 3-4-5 diet and exercising, loosing an average of 5 pounds a week, but she fell just 10 pounds short of her goal for ever coming back to the park. But its ok, the main purpose of this trip was to plan for the wedding. We still had a great time inspite of the short comings, but I really do hope KI does something about that music!

I did read some previous posts, but when the thread is 5 pages long, you eventually give up and click that "fast reply" button. Just stating my opinion thats all.

Do You wear a shirt that says "I Eat Noobs"? Just trying to figure out exaclty where I said "I hate Kings Island and never want to come back, it's horrible, and I'd rather go to Kentucky Kingdom"... trying to figure that one out... I don't hate the park, it just seems different without the movie theme.

I don't know where you guys are getting this from, but I was at Kings Island all rainey day on Friday and everything (that wasn't broke down) was running. Vortex, beast, Racer, Face off, Top Gun, and IJST were all good to go. Only annoying thing was they were only running one car on each coaster

I was neutral on the situation. While the park seemed a lot cleaner, the Music is the same horrible music I've had to tolerate at the ol' lowes Store #442 for the past 4 years, and I go there to get away from that crap. That might be the ONE reason I miss paramount. However the Paramount purchase just fit with Kings Island too well. I enjoyed the overall movie themes, movie music, and movie merchandise. It'll never be the same without that Paramount title on it. Anyway considering six rides I wanted to ride were closed, I think its obvious that Cedar Fair is having some maintenance issues.

Not exactly what I meant, but I guess you can take it whatever way you want. I'm just saying it doesn't surprise me, but I'm not saying I know exactly what caused that cable to snap. I'm just saying if anyone's been to Kentucky Kingdom recently they'd understand that the feeling of the place is unsafe. Seems like everythings broken down all the time!

Yes we have acctually. They said they don't have a problem with it and they were even cater to it, but they will not keep it private for us: ie there is no where we can go to perform the wedding with out spectators walking by. Not a big deal. Our original location right in front of the Eiffel Tower but after further investigation we discovered the Walkways were too Narrow and the park isn't going to let us block off a walkway.

Hi! First of all I'd like to say its awesome to find some people with the passion I do for Roller coasters. In my life I've been too Six Flags Great America, Kentucky Kingdom (x3), Cedar Point, Disney World, Universal Studios, and Of course Kings Island (more times than I can even count). By Far, Kings Island owns 'em all imo. I've always been a huge fan and I'm glad to find other people that are big fans. I recently visted yesturday and first of all I find it ironic that it doesn't rain for nearly a month but it decides to rain the one day I pick to go to Kings Island! Its ok though no harm done, the rain ended up being a good thing as it kept the crowd down. The day was awesome but I'm unsure about the Cedar Point purchase. I went to the Point once, went on a saturday, wasn't impressed, most of the coasters are a joke, only a few are world class, and the lines were ungodly horrible. I'm going to give it another chance next year, but with that being said my first impression of them running a park was bad. lets start with the horrible music. or should I say "MuzaK" because thats exactly what it was. I enjoyed coming to Kings Island hearing all the Paramount music. Forrest Gump Theme, Star Trek, etc, it was all great, and it was music that you couldn't get sick of. Obviously they couldn't play that anymore due to license issues, which I understand, but did they have to pick the exact same muzak station that the Lowes store I've worked at for 4 years plays? Horrible. Mo-town, Paul McCartney, Steeley Dan, Modern R&B hits, etc I hate that station with a passion. I go to Kings Island to get away from that Music and they are blaring it as loud as they can! Its not just them, Many fast food restaurants like that station as well. You know its Kings Island. Its hardcore. Play some Pantera, Metallica, or Megadeth, hell something other than Steeley Dan and Paul McCartney fest. Yuck! Anyway Secondly the new seatbelt. Redicolous. no one's been hurt or died on these rides before, if its not broke, don't' fix it! Also if The Beast has a seatbelt now and its buckled, and the harness bar clicks once I think its safe to let the person ride it. My GF, is not the smallest girl in the world, and honestly I wasn't happy that she had to get off The Beast just becasue the stupid bar wouldn't click twice! Why does it have to click twice? She had a seatbelt, and IMO if it isn't safe at one click, than it shouldn't click till it gets to the second clicking spot. Have these people who designed this harness rode itallian job? It clicks the like 20 times before it gets to the point where the "second click" position is on The Beast. Redicolous that somone has to be denied a ride on a classic world class coaster just because they aren't quite skinney enough to fit in the sardine canned size cars. Sometimes seems like they build these coaster cars for midgets! Thirdly lets talk about poor maintenance. The Delirum, Drop Zone, Son of Beast, Flight of Fear, Tomb Raider, and Firehawk were broken down throughout the day. I understand whats going on with S.O.B. and D.Z. and thats forgivable definitely. But the rest theres no excuse. I also understand that Firehawk came from geauga lake and has been running fine for 6 years before it came here... so theres no excuse for KI to not have it running properly. Also if its broke, tell me whats wrong with it! I didn't appreciate waiting in line for FH only to hear "ladies and gentlemen theres been a minor delay". If it was a minor delay why didn't it open up again? Every day on the way to work on I-465 I pass a billboard that says "Firehawk: Kings Island" And I was looking foward to riding it, but after an hour and a half I had to give up, and sure enough It didn't reopen. And it didn't even open untill 3. Redicolous. The park has 6 months to get a ride working right. And its not even a new ride. Way to go Cedar Fair! Anyway now that I got my little rant of the annoyances in the new ownership out of the way, inspite of all this, I still had a blast! Hit up The Vortex 4 times, The Beast once (by myself, since my GF couldn't ride it), Itallian Job Stunt track twice, Face off twice, The Wild Thornberries Log flume, and Congo falls twice. Also rode The Racer backwards Once. Also had to ride the lame Adventure Express since my G/F made me, but it was still fun. Me and My G/F are acctually planning on getting married there next year. That was the whole purpose of the trip. We found a great spot, pending that Cedar Fair doesn't destroy it. Its that spot behind the Eiffel Tower where the Movie star names used to be, and theres a waterfall there too. The Recption is probably going to be at Wings Buffet. The whole purpose of this trip was to plan for the wedding, but we are probably going to visit again in August to hit up the waterpark, and hopefully ride everything we couldn't ride this past time. Anyway Just thought I'd say hi to everybody.

Hi everyone, I'm an Indianapolis IN resident who's a regular at Kings Island (i've been at the park before and after the paramount era more times than I can count), and been to Six flags Kentucky Kingdom 3 times. My thoughts is this is horrible. And sadley, it doesn't suprise me. I went to Kentucky Kingdom when it was "kentucky Kingdom: the Thrill Park" and 2 times after they were "Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom". What once was an awesome amusement park with a lot of potential has now been neglected and ignored by Six Flags. I honeslty belive that Six flags completly neglected all maintence since they took over (hence the sudden dissaperance of "the vampire" a signature roller coster) and thats exactly why the Hellavator caused a little girl to loose her legs. I really really really hope the legs can be surgically reattached. The poor girl just wanted a day of fun at an amusement park.