PKISecurity

Interpreter...You're Too Funny! I thought my portion of cutting KI's deficiate was paying the $360 for my family to get in on Opening Day! It would take 2,777,778 million families of four at $360 to demolish their $1 BILLION of debt. Do you think they might make it ? !!!

I was hoping for a KI lanyard for my season pass being that you have to show it off to get discounts on games, food and shopping. It would make it easier than carrying a wallet or fanny pack. T-Shirts for the first couple thousand or Free front of the line pass for "anyride" would be great. Just some type of perk for Opening day you know?

I'm sorry...but I haven't attened an Opening Day Event while holding a Season Pass. The wife doesn't want to arrive at 9am if it's going to be 40 degrees out. She's thinking more like 3 or 4 in the afternoon. I don't want to miss out on any FREE loot in the morning. So, does anybody know for sure if were going to miss anything by not being there fiirst thing? Thanks.

Why not have it at Timberwolf...if it's still called that? How many shows a day will they have? It can hold a few people. LOL

Hi. It's sad knowing what's in the profits of SoftDrinks. It goes for all brands. As our family has a combined 78 years together with Coca-Cola, I remember being with my Dad plenty of times back in the 70's and early 80's at fairs, airshows and ballparks as he would have to service his route when they had events. He always told me that he was on the wrong side of the business and he should have opened a soda stand at these places. Back then, the cost for a 12oz wax Coke cup was about 0.02 or 0.03 cents and to fill it one time was about 0.04 or 0.05 cents. So about .07 cents a cup. Now, KI vendors use a variety of cup sizes. Let's say we'll use a 22oz disposable cup. I've learned that with todays cost of syrup at $40 dollars for a 5 gal box, not including the CO2 costs, could yield about 300 glasses at 5-1 mix ratio, filled with ice... ...total cost today???? $0.13 a glass ! Now, maybe people should just pack their lunch and have a nice picnic out in their car! That's what we do!!!

You might be a KI addict if you...got caught doodling the next biggest Ki coaster on your companies fiscal report while in the bosses meeting...then he waits on you to finish it before moving on to the next point.

You know...I had been thinking tonight while at church about my thoughts that I posted earlier today. You are right...who's not to say that someone would put "one million dollars" in the bin, (of course with it being empty as the way they found it) go through the motions to lock it up, come back after the ride and claim..."I'VE BEEN ROBBED, I'VE BEEN ROBBED". All false of course, but think of 'your' valuables, whatever you deem important to lock up, and then if you were a dishonest person, go and make a stolen claim report with the police that you had this...this...and that stolen. Way to easy for people to scam. People should just remember this isn't a shopping mall. It's a theme park. Would you carry these same items in the Theme Park if you were riding rides at Boomerang Bay? No!...you wouldn't take your cell phone or camera down Coolangatta Racer or the Pipeline Paradise so why should the other side be any different? My mother-in-law would always say "KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid". Why make this as difficult as everyone is making it. I'm starting to think of it like school. Would you send your kindergartners to school with your great grandma's sentimental heirloom diamond ring or photos? Again, No! So, if you are worried about it being lost, damage or stolen or have a bad day and have all three happen to you then, why not rent a locker, keep it in your car or pay someone to walk around and hold it for you!! LOL ! OR....YOU CAN LEAVE IT AT HOME!!! That all I'm going to say about that!

I can't speak from experience, but it sounds like it would have a major impact on hourly ride capacity, at least if the majority of boarding riders were to do this. Is this for all loose items, or only for valuables that need to be locked up? I remember at Universal in Fla, that while waiting in que lines for rides, some rides have mini shows or character acts that entertain you and build anticipation before you ride. They always seem to be one step or two ahead of getting people in the que line(plus it passes time while waiting) because they have que lines that allow you to be there waiting for the ride to end or train to come back to the station and then "boom" you get on and go. Kinda like the Italian Job where they que you up in your own lane and there never seems to be a long wait. You're in line, you get on...and you go.(one step ahead) Why not have most que lines like that where us, the riders have one train ride or two to prepare ourselves with a locking storage bin, and then locks and rotates when it's your turn to get in line and when you come back from your ride, your storage bin is already ready there for you to open it up and move along while everything remains safe. It wouldn't bother me to do this and know (IF I HAD TO USE THIS OPTION) my things are secured. I only carry my phone and sunglasses because my family seems to hand me their stuff to hold while they ride in comfort and I'm stuck juggling things in my pockets. Again, the one and only time I rode Firehawk, I didn't know those front lockers were my last chance to secure loose articles. I ended up crushing my glasses and bending my wifes frames. She was mad, but what can you do? So, now I have to dress with zippers and velco shorts to secure stuff . BLAH!

As a previous security officer from years gone past, I don't ever recall getting a call from ride ops for someone taking a camera such as a SLR and definately not an DSLR (as technology like that was not as affordable then as it is today) onboard a ride little lone remember having to do a report for someone stowing one in a bin and having it stolen. *off subject* I've had to do a report for someones shoes being taken (faceoff) so, it really doesn't matter what you trust to leave behind while riding. (shoes, plush, fanny pak, sunglasses...and yes purses(women do it)) And, right now, Tomb Raider & FOF comes to mind from back then as the only two stowable zipper pouches on rides for articles to be secured while riding. The worse place to leave something behind in my oppinion was Delerium. Those metal boxes scream (prize box) as it's like, first come first serve for theives. Back to my point...back then I can recall the countless (dozens) of phones that certain rides would produce while people were riding. (We all got the call to walk the phones back to "the clock" and then on to guest relations) The Beast in my book was the worse for getting your phone loose out of your pocket (but at least when it fell out, it was still inside the car) and Face Off shows no mercy for phones. Just look inside the secured fence area under the first drop, it's like a cellular grave yard. The bad thing about that is that they can't be retrieved until after the park closed. Even then, I only saw one that survived as we couldn't put Action Zone to bed until those people got their phone back. I admit that Firehawk crushed my phone and glasses in my pocket so no ride is safe in my book and that brings up my point...(FINALLY!) Todays phones are so much more powerful than they were 5 years ago. They're portable, they have better Megapixels pictures and supreme HD quality video features that can record hours instead of 15sec at a time. They are usually attached to your belt so you don't see them when they get on the ride or people keep them in their pockets. They take good enough photos for people to use on their facebook, myspace or scrapbooks back home. So, once the car gets out of the station, it usually results in a free for all for guests to get them out and record what they want until they circle back in the station. So these folks still takes pictures but assumes greater risks with their phones/camera at hand while folks like you israel09 who want to have the 'big guns' for photo opportunities but can't do both: ride/photography because of theft and KI assumes "NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ARTICLES LEFT". ***I suggest like that of Firehawk and I'm not sure lockers are still there at the beginning line at Tomb Raider, KI should invent or provide a quick change locker for people to use to secure those sort of small items so that we all can rest a little easier when ridding a ride or having to worry about theft or the destruction of our property that we carry on our person while riding. I would love to see some pics from the park with your camera...sounds like a wonderful hobby or do you make a living doing this? If you have a season pass, make a day of photography or break it up into parts: morning/afternoon/night to get all aspects of light and activities throughout the park and then stow it in a locker in between shoots and ride your butt off. Don't forget to smile.

This is just a portion of the many laws regarding amusement parks and amusement rides: This is taken from the (O) Ohio ® Revise © Code or ORC for short. This is the Bible on which Law Enforcement Officers stand on. Without it, we have nothing to enforce. We had five months, 'everyday' of this in the Police Academy and I took this course a Semester before I joined the Police Academy. If you would like to learn more of this topic on your own for fun, here you go. http://codes.ohio.gov/ 1711.551 Duties of riders. (A) No rider shall fail to do any of the following: (1) Heed all written warnings and directions that require a person to meet certain conditions or to refrain from certain actions regarding an amusement ride, as determined by rule by the director of agriculture; (2) Refrain from behaving or acting in any manner that may cause injury or contribute to injuring himself or other people while occupying an amusement ride.

Thank you for accepting my apology. I am truly sorry! I will think before I type and re-read everything I post from now on! Promise!

FIRST OFF....I'm deeply sadden to hear of your loss for your Father. I'm sorry. I know when posting our thoughts in 'text' it sometimes sounds worse reading it than when the person typing it meant for it to sound. Please understand, I was commenting on your comment about being around longer than most on this site and making the connection about 'old tyme amusement parks'. By all means necessary, there won't be any need to reprimand me. I feel badly that I've hurt your feelings Terp. I've read your posts in the past and enjoyed reading all of them. I totally respect you. I find you are a caring and humorous person with a loving heart for good ol fashion fun! Please forgive me. I love this park and wouldn't want anything to happen to it. I enjoyed working at KI when I did and it had given me a new outlook on life after it helped me launch my new career into law enforcement. I AM SORRY THAT MY POST WENT INTO THE DIRECTION IT HAD. I HAD NO INTENTIONS IN HURTING YOUR FEELINGS. PLEASE FORGIVE ME! ~brian

Hey CIR....What I hear from all of you reminds of what "used to be" with Americana. It would be great fun to enjoy once more the "way it used to be" old time amusement park. See, for me, Coney Island would be about a two hr drive and KI takes about 70 min on a good day. That's worth having a KI Season Pass to have an outstanding pool like BB, than go back in time for rides that my kids would get bored with at CI. I wouldn't get bored, but they would. I hate taking my parents to KI because they can't do anything. The Train, pool (if I stay with them...they'd fall without me) and maybe, just maybe the Zypher on a good day for them. Cedar Point is just as close as Coney Island ( i live up north), but I haven't been there yet as well. I worked for KI years ago and would make it 'MY CAREER' if I was asked. KI means a lot to me and I love the guests, employees and managment staff. Everyone treats everyone with a great deal of dignity and trust. I never had a problem working here and I loved it so much that I ended up going to and graduating the Police Academy and KI worked with me and my schedule for the entire Summer without a hitch. Maybe someday, I'll go and give CI a try. I might just like it! Just like trying Blue IceCream!!!

You're kidding me right? Have you been there yourself? http://www.coneyisla...k.com/index.php This place is the BIGGEST DRAG I HAVE EVER SEEN!!! I for myself, have never been there nor even knew that it was still operational. Good for them. But, if you check the season passes, IT'S THE SAME PRICE AS A Kings Island SEASON PASS!!!! $89.95. That's for a park that you'd be better off taking the kids to the neighborhood playground than pay that price for 1/4 of what you'd get at KI. IT'S OUTRAGOUS!!! Don' t get me wrong, I'm sure it's a beautiful park, has the great history and nestalgic feel and it's convenient for locals who live around there, but SERIOUSLY...FOR THAT PRICE OF $89.95, YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT ANOTHER 20 MIN UP THE ROAD WOULD BE WORTH MORE THE VALUE AND THE DRIVE FOR WHAT YOU WOULD GET????? I wouldn't expect to pay more than $50 IF THAT for a season pass at Coney Island!!!!

Well Terpy...Let's consider why many of the Mom & Pop stores shut down in America when good ol Wal-Mart rolls in a town who has survived all these years without one. Same principle applies here I believe. Back in Americana's day+don't forget Fantasy Farm, Coca-Cola would 'ALWAYS' have their annual picnic there as would many other corporate businesses alike...it was during these times that businesses could afford it and they planned it in their yearly agenda. (Parks back then was affordable for families) Plus, it was when businesses cared about their employees. But as time moved on, KI grew bigger with newer, taller and better rides and shows. The youth and parents of those times became more interested in "the new shiny toy" (KI) and I'm sure that KI, when they became larger, didn't want the add'l competition. So to meet all of the "family's needs", families went to one park where the adults could enjoy the big coasters and the little tykes could enjoy the merry go round all in one place. Families couldn't afford to do both. Remember the reaction everyone had when Kings Island pulled the plug on the Anique Cars. As simple as they were, people were ready to pull out the torches and pitchforks. People want the new AND the old. It's a part of who we are as humans. We have adapted to change. I'm old enough to remember that when radios only had am and fm, not like fm2 and fm3 on the digital side where you have alternative selections to choose from, that you had to accept whatever the stations chose to play. When all this rap and hip hop came out, it seemed that's all the stations played was the top 20. Same songs over and over. I hated it. If you wanted an oldies station that played the classics from the 50's and 60's, it gotten eaten up between stations and finally choked off the dial. Now, look at what's on the shelves today in the mall. Girls and guys dressing up 80's retro. Go into Hot Topic...it comes in cycles. So, I believe people would accept the old with the new. That's what I'm saying. Americana just didn't suffered because they had poor management and poor ideas...bigger and better things just came to town. If you get off at I-75...if you turned one way you went to Americana if you turned the other you got KI. KI won with the change of the times!

Are we speaking of the one that "graced" Americana Amusement Park? The last time I saw that show, the theatre became heavily induced with smoke in the middle of the show and I learned later as I got older it caught fire and I never saw it working again. Americana was the blueprint for family fun. Speaking of this topic, I surely hope they don't build into "The Beast ZONE". It would kill the pure mystic of darkness where "The Beast" hides. I wrote on that last spring. Why not move everything out to the old Animal Kingdom Area and bring back the family rides OR A NESTALGIC PARK? Bring back the old King Cobra...can anyone remember how tall it seemed to stand alone until they built Son of Beast? Get The Bat and screamin deamon out of the closest. I'm sure with todays advances...it could be built safer. Really?? When I worked at pki...families would ride the rides and if they brought grandma and grandpa or the little tyke, you'd always see them at the exits or entrance in wheelchairs burning up in the sun or left alone to wait. Why not bring things the WHOLE FAMILY can enjoy. Shows, Slower to the ground rides, the 30's-40's midways, a steamboat ride to an island for a picknic or lunch. They deserve "Something" for the price of their ticket too!!!! Oh...at Americana, they had a stand up movie where a babystroller strolled away from mom who hadn't when it rolled away from her and was dodging in/out of traffic through a busy city street. That was FUN! ~PKISecurity

They should contract it into a movie so that it can be imploded or offer to sell the planks of wood as a piece of history to park guest. You know..."Get a piece of The Beast with every 2010 Season pass" LOL! Maybe make the largest wooden walk through maze for the Haunt next year...anywho!!! Just a thought! Good-Bye Old Friend!!!!

When I was a young pup working PKI Security not to long ago, Security Officers were instructed that there is 'Z E R O' tolerance for striking a park guest, employee or another Officer. There is 'NO' training on how to defend yourself from physical threats by others. However, our fearless Security Supervisor at the time, we'll call him 'EF' for short, instead, offered all of us a challenge to read the book "VERBAL JUDO, THE GENTLE ART OF PERSUASION" by George J. Thompson, Ph.D.. "That should be our only defense" he said. Only Park Police has the proper training to execute proper force when necessary. I used my experience as a Security Officer to attend The Ohio Police Officers Training Academy and Graduated in December that same year. I now work for the Courts! I know first hand how park guest are and can be.

I wanted to share a photo on a topic and can't find any help on how to do it. I thought it was as easy as copy and paste. But it's not. Please can anyone help me? Thank you.

When I worked as an employee in '05, about twice a year they'd give us the option to purchase the prizes at 'pki cost' because 'employees' are not to play any games while on or off the clock ever. If I remember correctly the basketballs cost us $1.66 each. So if you play for $2 a pop, the park already made a profit off you of $.34 and I'm sure they marked up the $1.66 to make a profit off of us as well. All the prizes are that way. Even the big stuffed animals were avail for purchase. IT ALL BECOMES YARD SALE JUNK ANYWAY! SAVE YOUR MONEY!!!

Why is it that they want to take a picture of you with the front gate behind you and 10,000 other park guests scrambling to get in. Why can't they spin ya around and get a georgous picture of you with the Eiffel Tower or the fountain in the background. Makes for a lot better frame and I'm sure they would sell tons more! "s-M-i-L-E" {POOF} (oops...sorry about the flash!)

My first time on The Beast and any rollercoaster for that matter was in 1990 with a girl I liked in high school. It was the summer before we went into our junior year. So to get to know her better I offered to take her to PKI but unknownst to me at the time her parents 'elected' to drive us to PKI themselves and then stayed with us during the whole day at the park. They would drop us off at each ride and then waited for us at the exits. So, to be alone with my date, I decided to ride The Beast when my girlfriend insisted she just 'had' to ride it(hint)(hint). I admit I was afraid of riding it but to be able to ditch her parents for just a few moments was priceless. It was the most exhilarating time of my life...and my girlfriend wasn't that bad either!!!

Predictable like you? Figures only you would take a reasonable topic and turn it into a topic where you lightly poke fun at another member and bash on the Interpreter. PKISecurity, welcome to KICentral. It's quite understandable that you didn't want to sift through a zillion pages of speculation and nonsense to try and find your answer on Son of Beast. Sometimes though regular members are just tired of seeing the same topics over and over such as "is Vortex sinking?" In time you'll learn how the boards work and such, welcome to KICentral! ...Of course we wouldn't have to have all this speculation and wonder about Son of Beast being closed if the park would just update their own website. You know, it might be reasonable and polite from a guest service standpoint to let a prospective visitor know one of your major attractions will be closed. Thank you King Maple The Tree King. Seeing how people act on something like this makes me think of how childish they are and I really don't care what they have to say. I joined KICentral to enjoy speaking out about one of my favorite theme parks in the world and the experiences one can have from such a great park. So...overall, that's all I have to say about it. THEY NEED TO GROW UP AND MOVE ON!

Thanks to you also touchdown62 for speaking up for me...I was frustrated at the time I replied earlier and overlooked your comment. Thank you.

Thank you Erosarrow05 for sticking up for me....you know, I saw this on TV and came to KICentral quickly to follow up on this. I am 'NEW' to KICentral and will learn to use the 'SEARCH' feature in the future. I only had about 2-3 min to get online and catch up and could not possibly read 36 pages of some info...and some blah blah blah to find out what's going on with the SOB. So I just wanted somebody to give it to me strait. That's all. So others...please back off. I'm not jeopardizing our forum by starting a new topic. I just wanted a quick anwswer. Maybe tonight...when I have two hours of free time and nothing better to do with my life other than 'LIVE HERE ON KICentral'...I'll read the other posts. Other than that...I signed up with KICentral to enjoy the conversation and keep up with KI becuase my job this year didn't allow me or my family season passes to LIVE at KI. So this was the next best thing. Geeesh! I'm on your side.