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Oh ok. Yeah I agree that it will start at the same height. But I find it pointless for people to argue about the height of this coaster when there's no accurate way to tell right now. It is much easier to just wait a day and see what it's actual statistics are. I have no doubt that this will be the tallest/fastest Invert in the world (or at least that's what they'll claim if it's shorter than WT). I'm interested to see what they'll announce regardless. I just wish my home park, Knott's would finally get a thrilling coaster... (Silver Bullet was in '04, yeah, 10 years ago...)

I thought you were just listing the coasters that have any sorta pre-lift track that's not flat

And Montu, and Nemesis Inferno.

Yeah... About that Wing Coaster.... That's definitely an Invert

I'd like to see how you rank your coasters. Like a top 20 of your steel.

Interesting thank you! I agree on 7 inversions and it being an Invert!

It can still be an Invert, and that is our best hope!

For what? EDIT: The supports on Gatekeeper are single supports directly under the track, UNLIKE what is being built at KI.

Is he new like Matt Ouimett and Raffi @ Knott's?

Ohh man, if this isn't a Wing Coaster, I will forever be in awe of Don's trickery

Just sayin.. it's an Invert...

The argument towards a wing rider is the wide-set vertical loops and the in-line twist before the ending helix.

This is one of the most clever diversions I've ever seen! Although there was this "leak" I am still convinced this is an Invert. My proof is the blueprints which I still believe are legit. Now, I have a few reasons. 1. The supports found on site have the same code as on the plans. You can see this in the first two pictures. 2. The footers in the drawing match the ones that are already built. 3. The station and transfer have two parallel rows of supports like any Invert. Wing Riders have supports directly under the track, unlike this whole coaster. You can see this in the last picture

The problem wasn't that you said CGI really, you're just mistaking the Gatekeeper lead car head for a bat. But I'm sure they'll easily make a bat-like lead car for this (if it's a Wing Coaster).

It's not CGI, it's a photshopped picture of Gatekeeper.

Gatekeeper vs Bat Length: 4164 3806 Height: 170 199 Drop: 164 183 Speed: 67 70 Inversions: 6 7

Really? Half the website had photos of Diamondback and Gatekeeper, and the other half had the "Lorum ipsum" thing. Which kinda says the website was in the middle of being constructed, but instead accidentally published. It's too half done for me to consider it fake...

No, it's not. That was a photo of Gatekeeper. No the layout of the drawings are the same as the paragraph described...kinda. If you guys are getting a wingrider, I am so so sorry..... Cause they kinda suck.

Well I'll be darned. The Layout is right, but it's for a Wing Coaster...

Who knows? I would venture to guess that they didn't cover up any name as it has little to do with construction. I think it is most likely nothing important, and not trying to hide anything. It's not covering the title block of the drawing anyway, that's where the bulk of info like a name would be.

Yes it would. Of course it would. You would need extensive knowledge of footers, serial numbers, B&M design, supports, and probably months of time to draw that by hand... Your statement is incredibly ignorant, those blueprints are 100% REAL... Lmao! Speaking of incredibly ignorant...I never said the blueprints were fake...I said the blueprints were not in question. I also said the YouTube guy is either spot on, kinda right or not at all with his drawing....if he did draw it, which he may not have. You don't have to get so hateful and defensive about it, just relax and take a deep breath.. Keep Calm and wait until this Thursday @ 10:00 pm in Action Zone. How would he even draw those? They're printed on. All I'm saying is that you don't really know anything you're talking about here. Lol, I'm not worked up, I'm just annoyed at things people say without knowing the subject of which they speak. Also, learn what ignorant means. (It doesn't mean you're stupid, it means you simply don't know)

Yes it would. Of course it would. You would need extensive knowledge of footers, serial numbers, B&M design, supports, and probably months of time to draw that by hand... Your statement is incredibly ignorant, those blueprints are 100% REAL...

Lol, Not my point, Fluid Mechanics won't help prove this is an Invert. But I agree that I have a greatly increased understanding of construction, building, and design.

I tried not to reply, but had to... Your post attacking someone AND calling them names is completly unacceptable. I would love to see your engineering degree that says this is without a doubt 100% inverted. This topic is for speculation and everyone should be entitled to their opinion without being called an idiot, which shows how mature you are. Umm, okay. You can come see my degree, I have taken classes on analyzing structures, metals, forces, stresses, materials, whatnot. But more importantly than that, the one Engineering thing you may need to know to "prove" it's an invert is to be able to interpret a simple drawing or schematic. Which in this case, is pretty easy. The codes on the drawing exactly match the Invert supports. So on top of seeing a clearly inverted layout, you also see support drawings and codes matching the "theory." Now with literally NO evidence to support this being any other type if design, how could your claim be anything without it being considered a pipe dream. I didn't mean to be attacking, but I tend to curb people from be unrealistically hopeful of something that we already know they won't get. Now maybe it's different cause I don't live out in Ohio, I am no fanboy by any means, I'm just purely interested in coasters. Nothing I said was "calling names" but rather stating fact, albeit in a blunt way. Ban me, I don't know who's a mod or what, so if I see a stupid post, I may call it out. Anyway, the next week can be cool, I mean, the most interesting part about the plans is analyzing the layout, You can generally tell how high the track is at a certain element by how far the supports reach from it. It's easier to see the supports in the second half of the video where it only shows Banshee and not the rest of the park. That's the type of speculating that isn't counter productive. *coughassumingitsadivemachinecough* Carry on...

Dude, no tunnel. Learn what an immelman is. Cause that's what you're getting! Please look at this post real good. http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27275-starting-to-decode-2014/?p=540105 I see that. I also see an extra wide base at the bottom of that loop. Raptor and Montu's loop is not that wide. And don't say it is like that because it goes around the lift... I cam calling it.... DIVE MACHINE I am calling it.... you're delusional if you don't think this is an Invert.. Not even a debate at this point. Arguing against this proven fact is idiocy.