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There's no way X2 is better than Goliath at SFOG or ShieKra. EDIT: It's been running terribly this year. Maybe in 2008 it could have.
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If you have ridden X2, you'd know that it is rough and it sucks. It's also gimmicky to no end! I can think of 3 better coasters in the park alone.
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That is correct! But will those go to KI? I imagine we will find out really soon!
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Actually, it was a "favor". Had Wonderland been built 2 miles farther away from Cedar Point, Wonderland would have been able to get a B&M Invert and not have to settle with the SLC. The roller coaster was in its early planning stages when Walter called up the former GM saying that he wouldn't be able to built the park an invert. Being a Wonderland fan (its my home park), do you know how fustrating it is not to have have what could have been a great invert all because of a 2 mile difference!?!? Despite it being a favor or not, I seriously doubt that they wouldn't build another Giga anyway.
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B&M builds whatever Kings Island wants. Just because they built a giga somewhere doesn't automatically mean that KI's will be a giga. And to your remarks on the last invert being built in '06, there have been a few built in the last few years, heck, OzIris was new this year. Also realize most US parks by 2006 already had a B&M or Vekoma inverted coaster. Kings Island does not. Also, a B&M inverted coaster rides very differently from Invertigo, Flight Deck and Firehawk, not to mention it'd be a nice line chewer, something Kings Island needs, particularly in Action Zone where most ride lines can get pretty long.Just because ki lacks a[ giga] doesnt mean they want/need a[ giga] You kinda set yourself up there. I also think you're quite adamant on remaining ignorant of the vast majority of coasters outside the US. Save for the lone B&M Giga. In CANADA. Speaking of which, that Mitch Hawker poll from last year? The one someone touted as saying Intamin took most of the honors on the top 12 (and because no one apparently trusts the Golden Ticket Awards anymore)? The ones in bold are American coasters. And to add further insult to injury, Skyrush and Shambhala debuted last year alongside Leviathan. Skyrush is 200 feet tall and was ranked 7th, Shambhala is 250 and was ranked 6th and Leviathan is 300 and was ranked 18th. Aside from the fact that B&M's premier giga ranked second to last in the top 20, the only other giga in the top 5 (Millie was ranked 14th) was beat out by two hyper coasters, 1st Place being in Germany. Also, Nemesis has been around since 1994 and has been in the top-tier list since this poll's inception. Yeah I count 8 out of 12 intamins. The b&m's are all heavily themed resulting in a higher ranking. All the intamins on the list don't have jack for theming, they rely on the ride itself. Theming plays into the rankings for sure, but B&M doesn't build coasters like they used to. Even if we got an Invert, there's no way it will be nearly as good as Montu.
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Interesting, I actually didn't notice that before. Well it certainly adds another twist to this tale. I just hope this is a decent B&M, not lackluster, like they have been as of late.
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Sorry for coming across hostile in any of my posts, I'm just trying to catch up. I don't see how B&M wouldn't do a Giga again now that they've done it. I'd like to see how the footers point to an Invert like you said! ^^^KI would greater benefit from an Intamin Giga (Which is vastly different than a B&M Giga) or really anything else from Intamin. I would also prefer a (preferably intense) B&M Invert over a B&M Giga as well.
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What's the evidence against a B&M Giga? Based on the footers, it's already been 100% confirmed to be a B&M, Oumit said that there wouldn't be any new Wing Riders this year. So that leaves with only a few options of coaster types. And I see it MUCH more likely to be a Giga vs an Invert. Then enlighten me of great LordSkippy. Because I'm still convinced this will be a B&M Giga. Since you're convinced it will be a B&M Giga, share with us the evidence which convinces you. Have you read through every page of this thread? Those of us who have been here for a while have. If you read each post, you will understand why we believe it will not be a giga. My evidence is history. I have said it before, this is 100% a B&M, which leaves us with a few options for coasters. Wing Rider- I could easily see it being this, but with what Ouimet said, I'm doubtful. Invert- The last new Invert made in the US was in 2006, they're not gimmicky enough anymore for parks to build them IMO. I really DOUBT it would be this. The park already has Flight Deck, the kiddie SLC, and Invertigo. Stand Up- ...No. Floorless- Same reason as an Invert, I doubt it. Dive- I'd like this, but there's been no history of CF (or any non busch park) looking to buy Dive Coasters. Flyer- Not with Firehawk already there. Giga- Now I would have doubted it 2 years ago, but look at CW. This to me is the most likely option. It's VERY marketable, and would make sense based on what I've seen so far. Now explain to me this un-deniable evidence against it. I'm open to any change in my opinion (cause I'd much prefer anything else). I'm just sad that there's no way thius will be an Intamin, because a Giga, IMO, is NOT what KI needs now.
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Then enlighten me of great LordSkippy. Because I'm still convinced this will be a B&M Giga.
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What's the evidence against a B&M Giga? Based on the footers, it's already been 100% confirmed to be a B&M, Oumit said that there wouldn't be any new Wing Riders this year. So that leaves with only a few options of coaster types. And I see it MUCH more likely to be a Giga vs an Invert.
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This is 100% a B&M. The footers prove it. Look at the same slots in these construction pictures. (Goliath SFOG, OzIris) The real question is what kind? I'd LOVE LOVE an Intamin, but you're delusional if you think it's anything but a B&M.