http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...r.2f69134d.html

I find it hard to believe that economic reasons were not cited as part of the reason why Six Flags wants to start selling beer at this location. Likely, the are trying to make themselves look better by saying that they are catering to their customer`s desires. But in reality, selling beer at amusement parks is likely a highly profitable venture. Heck, just look how long Paramount Park`s ban on beer lasted, after they acquired the parks back in the early nineties! I`m sure the reason they brought the booze back was because they were missing out on all the revenue it brings into their coffers.

It is my understanding that not only were profits from the alcohol sales missed, but attendance also went down during the alcohol ban, which had been instituted after the deaths in the pond behind Oktoberfest gardens and at Flight Commander.

The year that Paramount "restricted" alcohol sales was the first year that the food services supervisors did not receive bonuses.

And in turn, it's widely rumored was the first year that the park did not turn a profit.

Opposition to SFOT alcohol sales proposal grows:

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/380175.html

^ Wow.

People really need to look at the big picture.

How many alcohol related incidents have happened at Busch Gardens (or pick any Busch Entertainment property)? And did these people that want to protest the decision actually come up with some data supporting their fact that alcohol related incidents in parks is on the rise, or for that matter is significant enough to warrent a ban on alcohol sales?

And if people really want to kick back and have a frosty brew, they can (and I'm sure have been for a long time) just go back to their car or hotel (that's what I do!).

Talk about a mountain out of a molehill.

Editorial from the Star-Telegram:

Six Kegs Over Texas? http://www.star-telegram.com/225/story/381707.html

Geez..

I wonder if they sell beer at The Ballpark at Arlington.

I don't think ya'll know how powerful the Southern Baptist Convention is throughout the South.

In Georgia, for example, you can not purchase alcohol at any store on Sunday's. A bar is not able to be open on Sunday unless the majority of it's sales are from food.

When it was debated this past summer, the Governor of the state said he saw no issues with Sunday sale restrictions. He explained that the citizens of Georgia simply need to plan their purchases during the remainder of the week.

^ Actually PA is the same way.

Alcohol can only be purchased at a state run liquor store or beer distributor. Grocery and convienant stores do not sell any alcohol.

And bars/ restaurants can only be open on Sundays if food sales are 30% of the total revenue.

It can be a rather pain in the A$$.

But what I'm getting at is they are making it sound like it is something brand new. Alcohol sales have been present at every professional sporting event in Texas for how long now? Why is it shocking for SF to sell alcohol as well?

^ Actually PA is the same way.

Alcohol can only be purchased at a state run liquor store or beer distributor. Grocery and convienant stores do not sell any alcohol.

And bars/ restaurants can only be open on Sundays if food sales are 30% of the total revenue.

It can be a rather pain in the A$$.

But what I'm getting at is they are making it sound like it is something brand new. Alcohol sales have been present at every professional sporting event in Texas for how long now? Why is it shocking for SF to sell alcohol as well?

Because it's a small vocal few that few they have the right to dictate to others how things should or should not be.

It's rather easy to do. Look at the businesses that wanted to allow smoking in Ohio. It was determined that an owner did not have the right to make the determination how a legal product could or could not be used in a business.

All about infringing on the rights of others.

All about infringing on the rights of others.

I guess it is too bad that Texas does not feel that same way about guns.

http://www.io.com/~velte/FAQ.htm

All about infringing on the rights of others.

I guess it is too bad that Texas does not feel that same way about guns.

http://www.io.com/~velte/FAQ.htm

Ahhh, now I don't have an issue with concealed carry laws.

My thought is that if more were trained in firearms and had concealed carry we would not have as many issues with a lot of crime.

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa...s.5f4616c7.html

Mayor 'Concerned' About SF Alcohol Permit:

http://cbs11tv.com/local/Six.Flags.Six.2.622000.html

Six Flags Appears To Have Learned A Lesson From Hooters:

http://www.star-telegram.com/arlington_new...ory/387570.html

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...r.2f69134d.html

I see a tie between this and the Illinois Smoke free thread.

I was gonna say, "When Did We Become Such a Nanny Country," But then I just realized we've always been that to some extent. It's sad that others feel the need to tell others how to run their businesses and live their lives.

What, you mean the fact that americans believe they can boss other countries around?

I don't see what's wrong with that!

Plan To Sell Beer At Six Flags Faces Bumpy Ride:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5427210.html

it's setting a bad influence

it's setting a bad influence

Since you say this, do you feel the same way about Kings Island? Busch? The Great American Ball Park?

Great American Ballpark is an acception. The Reds once didn't play because they stopped selling beer.

Most of GABP's audience is over 21.

Can you say the same about Kings Island?

Great American Ballpark is an acception. The Reds once didn't play because they stopped selling beer.

Most of GABP's audience is over 21.

Can you say the same about Kings Island?

a. The word is exception, not acception. PLEASE use a spell check.

b. Many, many youth go to ball games. Is the fact they are not a majority of the audience sufficient to say that ball games can sell alcohol but theme parks cannot?

Before Cedar Fair, Paramount Parks limited alcohol usage to designated areas. Be aware that Cedar Fair ended this policy, just as at Cedar Point.

Great American Ballpark is an acception. The Reds once didn't play because they stopped selling beer.

Most of GABP's audience is over 21.

I would like to see that stats on the majority of the Reds' audience being over 21.

And when did the Reds play not play because they stopped selling beer?

Great American Ballpark is an acception. The Reds once didn't play because they stopped selling beer.

Most of GABP's audience is over 21.

I would like to see that stats on the majority of the Reds' audience being over 21.

And when did the Reds play not play because they stopped selling beer?

Oh attendance at any ball park is and always has been well over 21 years of age. A simple scanning of the scans for any game will establish that.

Yeah, that is my point.

I have season tickets to the Cleveland Indians and games during the week are more families with younger children and young adults, than older people.

The scans you see during the games on TV are more likely the seats behind home plate. Those seats, usually about 4 sections, are usually triple the cost of any other seat in the house. So yeah, just looking at those seats you would get the impression that the overall attendance would be those over 21, but that is simply not an accurate way to gage the age demographic of the entire stadium.

Yeah, that is my point.

I have season tickets to the Cleveland Indians and games during the week are more families with younger children and young adults, than older people.

The scans you see during the games on TV are more likely the seats behind home plate. Those seats, usually about 4 sections, are usually triple the cost of any other seat in the house. So yeah, just looking at those seats you would get the impression that the overall attendance would be those over 21, but that is simply not an accurate way to gage the age demographic of the entire stadium.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=84163

From 2002, but I can't imagine the Median has Dropped.

Article from October 1st 2002?

I would not call that exactly accurate for 2007. But the article did state that baseball viewed it as an issue with the older fans, and has since tried to appeal to the younger fans and families in the 5 years since the article was published.

Also note that is is that the median is 45 years old.

Only 23 years older than the current legal drinking age, but much younger than those in their 70's as well.

EDIT for clarification.

Article from October 1st 2002?

I would not call that exactly accurate for 2007.

As I've Said...

I know it's from 2002 but I can't imagine that the median age has gone down any from the 45 years or older they cite in the article.