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Diamondback Construction Thread (Updated 3-19-09)

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Really?! That's awesome! I've seen this picture before and always thought it was beautiful. The sun is right below the crest of the hill and the train is positioned evenly on the hill. It just doesn't get much better than that. Nice pic :)

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    Hey everybody! This is my first post! I was so happy when I saw them putting that first piece of track in place! woo! LOVE IT!

  • Ok if Diamondback's doesn't look like those, then here you go. DB HammerHead Nitro HammerHead SilverStar HammerHead Behemoth HammerHead Behemoth Layout Depiction of HammerHead

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    Any discussion that results in me looking at pictures of Nitro is one I am in favor of! And in saying that, I am on sound footing! Terpy, whose sign off line could be called a footer

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I know we have all seen the trains by now but the webcam stopped on a cool view where you can see the front of the car a little bit closer.

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Just thought you guys/girls would enjoy another shot!

EDIT: Are those lights on the lift that I see?

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Lights :lol:

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They could be working on parts of a train in there?

BTW I saw them put the trains on.

Nice lights in the station!

Lets hope testing starts soon.

Lift lights are probably just for construction. I don't think I have ever seen tracer lights on a B and M hypercoaster! How awesome that would be!

I also like this picture.

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Lift lights are probably just for construction. I don't think I have ever seen tracer lights on a B and M hypercoaster! How awesome that would be!

I have seen them on B&M Behemoth has them look at pics and vids.

I don't doubt you, I have just never seen them on a B and M hypercoaster. I will almost certainly get to see them on Diamondback long before I get to see them on Behemoth...

testing will start next week or the week after depending on if they get done with the mid brake run sensors and electricity work

Behemoth has Red Chaser Lights & Regular White Flood Lights on the Lift along the stairs they just turn the White Floods off at night during operation... but when the park closes for the night the Chasers get turned off and the White flood lights come on. I think the lights we see on the DB lift are permanent, they are probably the white floods. They are too evenly/perfectly spaced and bright to be temporary construction lights from what I can tell (I could be wrong though I don't think I am). I hope DB gets chasers but probably wont because it doesn't fit the old west theme. Anyway lets look at the "Bright" side (sry had to do it), the lift hill has electricity & trains are being added!!!! thats 2 steps closer to testing :D and opening on April 18!!

testing will start next week or the week after depending on if they get done with the mid brake run sensors and electricity work

And it is confirmed the 5th "hill" (what is that hammerhead? ;) ) trim's electrical circuitry has been fried, turned into a fancy pigeon perch, won't be fixed, and is otherwise a worthless hunk of metal and wires with no viability or need for actual use, correct?????

The 5th hill trim will not slow the ride much at all, if the renderings can be trusted, but I guess in dare-to-fly's position, having it removed just adds reassurance.

let me tell ya..its nice coming home from a long days work and seeing a train on the track....wish i could have seen it go on though

Worry not. No one saw the trains mounted while watching the webcam. They did see a glimpse or two or three of a train's nose on the track!

I was watching the cam but never saw the train actually put on!?! It just kinda appeared around 10:45... earlier someone said they put it in from the back of the Storage track but there is a railing and floor there so how could they do that????

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See!?! Maybe it was added before and just today they pushed it foreword. I am confused, Blake since u saw it added when was it added???

well at least im not the only one....i did see the picture fromt he webcam of the tip of the train...it was even better than i imagined

I was watching the cam but never saw the train actually put on!?! It just kinda appeared around 10:45... earlier someone said they put it in from the back of the Storage track but there is a railing and floor there so how could they do that????. . .

It's Cedar Fair, where the magic of the moving trains meets the thrills of a lifetime.

Terpy, who just HAD to

I agree with pkifreakhogg the lift hill does look awesome with the lights on it. The station also looks cool with the lights on.

The lights add just a "special touch" to any coaster, especially Diamondback! I love when lights are on, on any attraction.

Wow you sure do miss a lot when you havn't been online all day.

Has Don posted a blog update bout the trains yet?

Btw lights look great! Hope they're here to stay

My those lights are bright you are able to see most of the second hill with them on! I have a feeling those are definitely permanent.

^ No he has not.

I was watching the cam but never saw the train actually put on!?! It just kinda appeared around 10:45... earlier someone said they put it in from the back of the Storage track but there is a railing and floor there so how could they do that????

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See!?! Maybe it was added before and just today they pushed it foreword. I am confused, Blake since u saw it added when was it added???

I was watching the cam all morning and never saw the trains put on I posted the pic as soon as I saw the front of the train. My instant reaction was "wtf?"!

You are right there is no way they could have put the trains from the back. Everyone remember the day the power had to be turned off? Maybe that was the day they slipped the train on.

The railing and floor removes. Note the long I beam railing stretching out off the top of the storage shed. That is where they put the mini-crane that hoists the cars into place. I will see I f I can do some searching to show you one in action. Believe me when I say that they do indeed get put on from the back.

Quick edit. If anything the railing may be the only thing that moves out. If you pay close attention there is really no TOP rail for the wheels to hug. Most B&M's have smaller load bearing wheels that allow the major wheels of the coaster to be open for maintenance.

I was driving through Little Miami/Maineville tonight and there is a spot (the intersection with the UDF, CVS, and Wallgreens) and I saw the lift hill with the lights on after seeing it on the webcam. It really makes it look a lot more visible and "alive" even if it's not totally completely ready yet.

Ok I have done some searching and have found a few pictures that could help you understand how trains are placed on track. If you pay attention to the transfer & storage track of Diamondback you may notice that there is a line of wheels in the center of the storage area. This allows the trains to be moved forward and backward. The track from the transfer to the storage area quickly goes away. The track is only used as a guide to res the train on some side rails. Small wheels on the underside of the car sit on these rails so that the whole under carriage, including the wheels can be inspected and maintained with the ability to remove entire wheel assemblies at ease if necessary. See these examples below.

These pictures are from Griffon. Note the way the track becomes non-existent and there are wheels in the center to move the train along. The rails on the side just below the floor support the coaster train. The train is supported on those small beams by wheels under the carriage of the train.

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Note how the underside of the train is completely available to maintenance, and is resting on those side rails.

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Here the train is in storage with nothing holding it up from under-neath.

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Note the tiny wheel which I have circled.

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This is the reason that the trains can and are put on from the back. The essentially just sit right in. This is the beauty of B&M! Simplicity at its best!

Edit: I'm still on a hunt for a picture of the tiny wheels on the underside of the train to show you all.

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I believe the wheels in the center also take the pressure off of the actual train wheels. It helps prevent getting a flat stop in the polyurethane wheel structure so the train will coast as smoothly as possible.

But in the storage area the center wheels have no effect on the polyurethane wheels as they are not resting on anything. They are completely free.

My question is how will they move the trains out of the storage shed onto the transfer track. I have been looking at as many pictures of Diamondback as I can find and I can't find an answer. Are the center wheels powered in some way? Are there kicker wheels that haven't been installed yet? Will someone have to go out there every morning and manually push the trains? I know its not the last one, but I can't figure this one out. If anyone knows how the other B&M Hypers work, I assume it will be similar.

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