vortexfan Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Don't expect too much on the first try, cool weather, new wheels means slow train. I would not be surprised if it did not clear the second hill, it should and I would expect it to, but it will be slow. B&M's are tested with harder wheel compounds first so they actually run faster. Behemoth was tested in much colder weather and it made it around the course the first try.
Monroe Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 It's not the make up of the wheels that is the issue, it is the bearings in the hub that matter more. Behemoth may have made it the first run but it did valley during testing. I am not saying that it WILL valley, but rather: I would not be surprised if it did not clear the second hill, it should and I would expect it to, but it will be slow.
joecartoon Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 i think it is going to depend on the weather the day that they test.
tigellinus Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Also remember in testing, Behemoth intentionally vallyed once...so please don't everyone freak if that happens on D-back!
The Interpreter Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Would that be like when a dog runs across a freshly waxed wood floor, tries to stop, runs into the wall, and gives a look that clearly says: "I meant to do that?"
Oldschool75 Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 This week would be good for testing. Supposed to be in the 50's this week.
The Interpreter Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 It means it does not make it up the next hill, so it rolls back and forth, back and forth, eventually stopping in the valley. Also called saddling or saddles...
RWildman424 Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 That just means that it does not have enough speed to make it over the next hill. It just rolls back and forth in between hills until it comes to a stop in the "valley". EDIT: You just beat me!!
KIfan73 Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Thanks for those fast replies. Now, the term "valley" makes sense. I've read it before, and it sounded so much worse...
The Interpreter Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 The only thing lower than the valley when this happens is the hearts of the maintenance people. Recovering from a valleying incident is at best time consuming, at worst very sweaty, hard work.
IndyGuy4KI Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 It means it does not make it up the next hill, so it rolls back and forth, back and forth, eventually stopping in the valley. Also called saddling or saddles... So, are new coasters expected to do this the first time? I cant imaging it happening though. The subject reminds me of the Matrix when they have Neo in the jump program!
The Interpreter Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Are they expected to? No. Does it happen? Sometimes. And not to just new coasters, either....
vortexfan Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Would that be like when a dog runs across a freshly waxed wood floor, tries to stop, runs into the wall, and gives a look that clearly says: "I meant to do that?" Except that the valley on Behemoth occurred in warm weather, after several weeks of testing and only a few days prior to media day. So no, it would no be like that at all.
The Interpreter Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Actually, it would be exactly like that. If someone tried to portray it was meant to valley then, they'd be pretending, just like that dawg!
CoasterStreak Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Maverick had two occasions this last pre-season I believe where the train didn't make the circuit. One was after the launch and one was in the horseshoe roll I think.
Jasper Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I love the pics. It only makes me want to be there even more. I cannot wait to see Diamondback testing its trains.
Monroe Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Would that be like when a dog runs across a freshly waxed wood floor, tries to stop, runs into the wall, and gives a look that clearly says: "I meant to do that?" Except that the valley on Behemoth occurred in warm weather, after several weeks of testing and only a few days prior to media day. So no, it would no be like that at all. Behemoth was not intentionally saddled, they were testing minimum operational speed and it did not make the circuit. So yes it was just like Interp. said.
kittenpooh Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 It means it does not make it up the next hill, so it rolls back and forth, back and forth, eventually stopping in the valley. Also called saddling or saddles... So please tell me then dear, how to they react to such a thing happening? How do they recover the trains? Thanks in advance, Kitten who sits and wonders.......
The Interpreter Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 For most rides, it's a winching experience...which is just what it sounds like it is. For others, like Son of Beast, sometimes the ride is literally sawed apart and the trains lifted therefrom with a crane. In yet other cases, strong people literally push the thing up the next hill...this is usually avoided....
Monroe Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 ^ It starts out as an auh darn, and ends with a shower to get rid of all the sweet and dirt....usually it is a crane to remove the cars, or a pulley system that pulls it to the top of the next hill. If the train is loaded, the people are removed first. It tends to vary on the situation.
The Interpreter Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 ...usually. But on the Skyliner at Lakemont, I was once aboard when maintenance showed up and pushed the train up the next hill, with us in it!
Monroe Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 ..I too, but on Rutschebanen at Tivoli Gardens Denmark. The cable snapped, and I actually helped with many others, to push the train up the hill.
Guest rcfreak339 Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I have once saddled on Greezed Lightnin at Kentucky Kingdom, they just had someone push us back and into the station...
KIFAN! Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 It must be really hard to push a coaster train. Some weigh more than others tho. I bet DB's trains are a good couple tons. Right? Or less? I dunno
tigellinus Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 ^^Keep in mind...IMO, the averaged size person with average strength should be able to push a car in neutral...a car is no feather weight!!
The Interpreter Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 But, can that person push that same car up a steep hill? Usually, no.
Guest rcfreak339 Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 On Greezed Lightnin the Launch track is pointed downwards toward the station, I don't think it was that heavy since it seemed like he did it with ease and I was the only one on the ride.
raptorcp21 Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Its kind happen to deja vu lot because catch car missed to catch the train...... Here example video.
firehawkboy Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Hey everyone. I was at the ACE SOAR event on Saturday and I must say, that was AMAZING! Besides the cold/snowy/windy weather. But anyways, I took ALOT of pics, but I'm going to put my favorites on here. Most are panoramic shots... Station: Splashdown: Going Down Into The Splashdown: Splashdown Panoramic #1: Splashdown Panoramic #2: (My Favorite)
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