Kris_2009 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 That picture confirmed a non cable lift? Pictures before showed the start of the lift with chain segments right next to it... Ha found it... notice the chain below lol http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?...post&id=154 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcbaseball Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 That picture confirmed a non cable lift? Pictures before showed the start of the lift with chain segments right next to it... Ha found it... notice the chain below lol http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?...post&id=154 I believe it was determined that the chain seen is for the small crane. I hope I am not ruining sarcasm but I couldn't tell so I figured I would clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcbaseball Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 The dead-giveaway of the use of a chain is the return trough running underneath of the lift as seen on Behemoth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris_2009 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 The dead-giveaway of the use of a chain is the return trough running underneath of the lift as seen on Behemoth. Plus the metal teeth that prevent the train to rollback on the hill if the chain stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast1979 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 The dead-giveaway of the use of a chain is the return trough running underneath of the lift as seen on Behemoth. Plus the metal teeth that prevent the train to rollback on the hill if the chain stops. Anti-Rollbacks. First used my John Miller.....I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 The dead-giveaway of the use of a chain is the return trough running underneath of the lift as seen on Behemoth. Plus the metal teeth that prevent the train to rollback on the hill if the chain stops. Anti-Rollbacks. First used my John Miller.....I think? The patten is held by John A Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 From the action on the cam I can see the top off piece sitting upright. Is it going up tonight? It's going up early tomorrow morning. Oh yeah early next morning. I am going to get on here in Physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 Q & A was updated in the Diamondback blog. http://kiDiamondback.com/public/latest/blog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigellinus Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 ^^Confirming SPPN!!! Nice... Not that it wasn't a secret... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Don't you mean not that it WAS a secret???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 The dead-giveaway of the use of a chain is the return trough running underneath of the lift as seen on Behemoth. Plus the metal teeth that prevent the train to rollback on the hill if the chain stops. Anti-Rollbacks. First used my John Miller.....I think? The patten is held by John A Miller. Actually, I don't believe he holds the patent anymore otherwise the coaster companies would be paying his family to use the design. Most patents are only good for 20 years, after that anyone is free to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Uh, no. Patents are good for 17 years of exclusive use. The patent itself does not expire, but the right of exclusive use does. EDIT: THIS WAS RIGHT YEARS AGO, but the instructor was actually right...read on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Uh, no. Patents are good for 17 years of exclusive use. The patent itself does not expire, but the right of exclusive use does. Well poo, someone needs to tell my microeconomics teacher that. I swear I learn more on the internet than I do in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 That's okay, I learned far more in bull sessions in the dorm than I ever learned in undergraduate school..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Uh, no. Patents are good for 17 years of exclusive use. The patent itself does not expire, but the right of exclusive use does. Actually, design patents are exclusive for up to a maximum of 14 years. This is assuming that the patent holder pays the necessary maintenance fees to the USPTO every 3.5, 7.5, and 11.5 years since the date the patent is granted. Who knew taking a patent law class could prove useful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 And utility patents are now good for 20 years as the instructor said (I stand corrected), if filed on or after June 8, 1995. For applications that were pending on and for patents that were still in force on June 8, 1995, the patent term is either 17 years from the issue date or 20 years from the filing date of the earliest US application to which priority is claimed (excluding provisional applications), the longer term applying. Thanks to the five people who PM'd me to let me know how old I am! The design patent information is indeed correct (and I knew that, but had forgotten it, having not been in the patent arena for a few years now...) http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/...01.htm#sect2701 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 And utility patents are now good for 20 years as the instructor said (I stand corrected), if filed on or after June 8, 1995. For applications that were pending on and for patents that were still in force on June 8, 1995, the patent term is either 17 years from the issue date or 20 years from the filing date of the earliest US application to which priority is claimed (excluding provisional applications), the longer term applying. Thanks to the five people who PM'd me to let me know how old I am! The design patent information is indeed correct (and I knew that, but had forgotten it, having not been in the patent arena for a few years now...) http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/...01.htm#sect2701 You're right about the length of utility patents... but the use of those are very rare, and somewhat phasing out. The vast majority (well over 75%) of new patents, whether they're new products or inventions, are filed as a design patent. Since there is no formal disclosure of prior artwork with a utility patent, there is a chance that your utility patent will not last if someone provides artwork of a similar idea. The whole patent system in the US is very screwy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubaman Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I know this hasn't been talked about for a page or so, but I'm going to miss that little bit of trees that used to be by The Beast entrance. I would always duck in there for a quick minute or two of shade on a sunny day after riding The Beast. However, I think it's a trade I'm willing to make for DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAHill Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Will potential bystanders get wet in any way near Diamondback's splashdown? Jordan Hill - Georgetown, KY The ride has been designed to keep the water in and around the splashdown area. The area by the splashdown isn't flat which would have created an issue with water settling in one area, right in front of LaRosa's. :D That's me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOFreak Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Beaver, they answered you're question on the blog as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Hey you cant argue with a construction crew who build Invertigo and one of the premier steel coasters, Maverick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast1979 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 The Adena Site says they Built Maverick, TTD's Station, maXair, Skyhawk and Thunderhawk. I didn't see anything about Invertigo ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEASTmaster Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 It looks like they are getting ready to top off DB as we post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markalan Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Crest piece is getting closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Browns Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Can't believe I completely forgot to watch it this morning. Thanks goodness for KICentral! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firehawkboy Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Fork lift getting crest railings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firehawkboy Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 What a pretty sight... Although I vote to rename Casper/StayPuft to Marty the Zebra... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAHill Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I Vote for Marty! BTW, The lift is pwnsome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I think I can see my house in that pic! What about 'Frosty'? -Tb, um... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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