Bob Dole Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 I keep forgetting to post this, but I just did remember. So here goes. Yesterday, (sunday). I went on break at about 4:30... I walked to Coney 3, my girlfriend's area, to pay her a visit... on the way there, I saw a maintainance guy carrying a long white board. I thought nothing of it. After I had talked to her, I walked to Oscar's... i walked past the entrance to the Antique Cars, and they were stopped. I found it peculiar, as I had never seen them closed before. I kept walking, and when I got a little further, there was a car sitting in the grass. At this point I was slightly confused... I walked a litte further to see that, low and behold, a car had derailed. It was sitting to the opposite side from which it left the track. The board the guy was carrying was to replace the fence around the outside, which had been shattered. I have tried every time I rode those things to derail it, and every time, it failed. Somebody got lucky and actually did it. Anyway, There was a slight crowd around the scene, and I found it amusing... I asked the security guard who seemed to be there out of his own amusement if anyone was hurt, and he said he didnt think so. But I just thought i'd share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 Not to rag on you.... But I guess I do not understand your mentality of trying to derail the cars, and finding it amusing when (and if) one does. PKI spends MILLIONS on general improvements and upkeep each year that many take for granted and do not even notice. The money required for upkeep and repair requires that admission and parking goes up, and employee kick-back goes down. It would seem to me that as a seasonal employee at PKI you would understand that. You should also see that such immature actions goes against everything park operators are taught. Trying to derail or flip a ride is just, well, dumb. Shaggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 Sometimes people really make me wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 Apparently Common Sense is not so common........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Dole Posted October 29, 2002 Author Share Posted October 29, 2002 Yeah, lets all make fun of me. Anyway. You're going to tell me that you've never ran the car into the rail, just to see what happens? Lest we forget, I am but 16. And it is funny. Nobody got hurt, therefore I find it to be somewhat amusing. Forgive me for not being mature. I am an associate, but so what? why should that seperate me from anyone else, ESPECIALLY when I am outside the park and out of uniform as I am everytime I write on this messageboard? I made a point of not gawking when I was in uniform. I am a good associate, will be a foreman next year if I so desire. Why should my amusement over a small accident mean anything? I know I'm not the only one. Nobody has replied in my support, and nobody will, and that's life. And you speak of it as though something very expensive has broken... It was a single piece of wood or fiberglass fence. One single rail. That is worth less then the food we waste at Scream Zone every single day. And quite honestly, I don't like you, whoever the hell you are. You know too much. :: WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE!!!!::-Edited by TeenageNinja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 I apologize for my comments. But from my point of view anything that can result in an injury isn't particularly funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Quote from Bob Dole, "I know I'm not the only one. Nobody has replied in my support, and nobody will, and that's life." Hey, I've done it too. I've let go of the wheel when a turn was coming up to see if it will self turn. Poeple say that you should learn something new everyday, and thats what I learned that day. Plus, the people that designed it knew that i must be able to withstand people doing that. AND, when you get close to the station and the guy/gal that hops on the side of the car and drives you into the station just step on the outside pedal. So there doing it anyway! So I reply in support of Bob Dole. And Shaggy, its good that you know alot if stuff about PKI, but you don't have to be a smartalic about it. That's my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 >>Yeah, lets all make fun of me. Not making fun of you, but I AM questioning your sincerity when it comes to PKI. I don't know you personally and I do not pass judgements on people I have not met. >>Anyway. You're going to tell me that you've never ran the car into the rail, >>just to see what happens? Nope. I never have tried to derail them. The point of the cars is to drive/ride in them. Not wreck them. >>Lest we forget, I am but 16. And it is funny. Nobody got hurt, therefore I find >>it to be somewhat amusing. Forgive me for not being mature. I am an >>associate, but so what? why should that seperate me from anyone else, Because as an associate you should be more aware of the safety reqirements and seriousness of such a situation. Irregardless of age, you set the example for guests and fellow employees. >>ESPECIALLY when I am outside the park and out of uniform as I am >>everytime I write on this messageboard? I made a point of not gawking when >>I was in uniform. I am a good associate, will be a foreman next year if I so >>desire. Why should my amusement over a small accident mean anything? See above. You post here under the guise of being a PKI employee, Your post tells people that it is "amusing" to break the rules, or try and break things. I don't agree with that attitude, so I called you on it. >>I know I'm not the only one. Nobody has replied in my support, and nobody >>will, and that's life. And you speak of it as though something very expensive >>has broken... It was a single piece of wood or fiberglass fence. What about the car? It's undercarriage or the rail the car rides on. What about the ride-downtime it caused? Something had to fail to allow the car to come off track. But even if nothing was damaged, this type of situation causes PKI to look at more ways to restrain the cars. Such incidents result in more stringent rules, more cumbersome restraints, and sometimes even ride removal. >>One single rail. That is worth less then the food we waste at Scream Zone >>every single day. I wouldn't brag about how much food you waste especially if you hope to become a "foreman." >>And quite honestly, I don't like you, whoever the hell you are. You know too >>much. And not to rag on you, but you're an ass. Tough talk. Sticks and stones bud. Your loss kiddo. Shaggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of D Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 God, I love Shaggy. Reminds me of a couple of the full-timers I know. Especially one, but doubt it's him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Dole Posted October 30, 2002 Author Share Posted October 30, 2002 I'm not bragging about the food we waste... It's how things are done... and the ride is most likely doomed in the first place. and I agree with most of your points, however, I don't condone the breaking of things, it's just my nature and the nature of many other people to try and derail a car, just to see, because we as humans are curious. And had someone been injured, I would be hard pressed to find this funny. But the fact of the matter is, nobody was hurt. It sucks that something most likely broke, but at the same time, isn't it good that it broke in the hands of someone who didn't try to get out into the park? Can we be thankful for that? I hope we can get over this, and I am sorry I passed judgement on you. It just angers me when people call me things I don't think i warrant. If i warrant it, then I welcome the comment, as I have quite a few times here. That's all I guess. No hard feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovian Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 sorry that i didnt check the site earlier... I try to derail the cars everytime I'm on them. They're designed not to come off...so i try to make them come off. That's the way it's always been. Every 12 year old kid who has ever gotten on them has done it. Is it funny that it finally worked? Hell yes it is... Rock on people...keep on derailing.. ~Jovian~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOF Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 I'd like to point out if your caught intentionally derailing a car, thats damage of property, and dangerous, and you will be removed from the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 Anyone who thinks that derailing or trying to derail one of the cars is good entertainment, is stupid. The only thing you are succesfully doing is destroying the rides at PKI and forcing the park to spend more money on ride upkeep, than to be able to divert that money to new rides. If this is what you try to do to the car ride, It makes me wonder what other rides in the park you have intentionally tried to destroy? You know who you are, knock it off, and quit destroying the amusement industry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
666 Posted November 2, 2002 Share Posted November 2, 2002 I hope the employee who from Ice Cream Zone who thinks it's funny gets fired, and once again this is why parks have to charge high prices, because idiots like this are alive. I know what they should get in 2003............."Security gaurds with guns: The Ride". Brake our stuff and we'll shoot off your leg!!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inraider Posted November 2, 2002 Share Posted November 2, 2002 I AM SORRY, but this thread came off as absolutely ridiculous to me! the cars are not fun if you can't bang'em around! and if they fly off the track because of doing something that small, then maybe they're are risk to the guests! obviously, they were made ( the track and cars) to withstand the pressure of them hitting each other. If it is too delicet to bange the rail, then it IS a safety concern and if this is true, maybe the ride should be shut-down until proper actions are taken. and all this about property destruction is absolute rubbish! it does not say anywhere in, on, and/or around the ride that you cannot, or even should not bang the cars! not even the people there warn you against it! if you cannot have fun on them by banging them around...then take them out and put in something you can! i have been reading some of the other posts on this site, and I swear most of your posts make no sense at all! This was a great NEWS TOPIC, but for a diccusion, it really fell short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
666 Posted November 2, 2002 Share Posted November 2, 2002 I AM SORRY,the cars are not fun if you can't bang'em around! and if they fly off the track, they were made ( the track and cars) to withstand the pressure of them hitting each other. ! it does not say anywhere in, on, and/or around the ride that you cannot, or even should not bang the cars! not even the people there warn you against it! if you cannot have fun on them by banging them around...then take them out and put in something you can! i have been reading some of the other posts on this site, and I make no sense at all! This was a great NEWS TOPIC, but for a diccusion, it really fell short. No there are no signs saying you should'nt bang cars around, but common sense says you should'nt. They are not bumper antique cars. If you think it's cool then do us all a favor and stay out of the parks. After reading your post (inraider) I understand that if it's OK to bang those cars around then why not a real car..........real cars are also built to withstand some banging around, but you would'nt do it on purpose if it could injure you. It's an antique car ride, and thats it. Please use your head when you post on here, and when you go to a park. That goes to anyone who gets off on damaging those poor antique cars that are older than most of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterfan Posted November 2, 2002 Share Posted November 2, 2002 All this talk about the cars being to safe is dumb. I bang them around every time I ride them. That ride is not dagerous. Maybe it's cause I'm an aggressive skater and have fun risking my like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovian Posted November 2, 2002 Share Posted November 2, 2002 You guys are all patehtic frankly. Thats like yelling at someone for hitting another bumpercar too hard. If you all believe what you are really saying, then any of you who lean on a rail while waiting in line, you should be kicked out of the park too. Because that's against the rules. Anyone who's ridden the soaring eagles, or whatever its called, and purposefully made them go up really high, and "snap", well...thats wrong, they could break off, and you could get hurt. Then the park would have to spend all kinds of money to fix it, and instead of 12 dollars for a slice of pizza, itd be 15 dollars a slice. So I blame you for our amusement park that just wants to make money. It's honestly pathetic how you people dont even stop and look at the things you do, and the things you say before you criticize other people. The cars are designed to withstand being hit into the rail. That's why there is a rail. If you think that it coming off is going to force the park to charge more...youre dumb. If you think that Bob Dole is a bad employee cause he hits the rail while hes driving...youre dumb. And if you think you dont do things that if you werent you, you'd yell at you for em...youre dumb. Ya hear me? All you people are dumb for saying dumb things, about dumb topics, that make you look dumb. You dummies. ~Jovian~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inraider Posted November 2, 2002 Share Posted November 2, 2002 AMEN! ...oh and another thing, those cars, are not real antiques! the stupid thing is to think they are! they are made by PKI manufacturing, and have JOHN NOLAN lawn mowers motors in them! I agree with everything that "Jovian" said, he is exactly right. and "666" you think you're the king of the world(obviously by you sn you do), well..your not! you must work at PKI! because no park guest would ever say the stuff that you do! and even if you don't work there, you act like you do! GO AND RIDE THE CARS! HAVE FUN! IF THAT MEANS BANGING THEM AROUND! THEN BANG THEM AROUND! HAVE FUN AT PKI, FOLLOW THE RULES, OBEY THE EMPLOYEES, HAVE COMMON SENSE, HAVE FUN! DON'T LET PEOPLE LIKE THIS PUT YOU DOWN! THATS WHAT PKI IS ALL ABOUT! HAVING FUN! ( this is all I have to say about this topic) p.s. this was to cause no offense to any worker at PKI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
666 Posted November 2, 2002 Share Posted November 2, 2002 Wow Jovian, now that you said that I'm starting to realize how smart you are. Your inteligence over everyone else is amazing. You use big words, and the word dumb. I did'nt realize the bumper cars were for bumping.......I thought they were Antique as well. You should teach us more wise one since we are all wrong for following the rules, and common sense. Could you teach me how to breathe, since I'm so dumb I can't do that either. Last night I was in my room and could'nt find my bed for 3 hours, but then I realized I was in someone elses house. Well good luck on trying to crash the "Antique Cars". I should've opened my eyes sooner Jovian, your the best, and the smartest one on here!!. Oh before I forget you spelled Pathetic wrong, it's not "patehtic"....lol. I know it was just an honest mistake since your so smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterfan Posted November 2, 2002 Share Posted November 2, 2002 It does not say anywhere in the rules not to bump the rail. In fact the steering sucks so much on some of the turns you can't help but hit the rail. The rail is made of steel. If a steel rail is torn up by a rubber tire then they need to start using real american steel instead of that cheap asian steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted November 2, 2002 Share Posted November 2, 2002 Apparently for some, dumb is the bset word in their vocabulary. If you think it is terribly funny to destroy stuff, watch the chance of someone being hurt or injured, you are arrogant, ignorant, and a bedlamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 Lets stop this argument now. This is suppost to be about Kings Island, not about the morality of banging up the Antique Cars around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Dole Posted November 3, 2002 Author Share Posted November 3, 2002 I am in agreement with dane, however I won't let it go that you people are being so ignorant. Whether or not you agree with me and jovian, you should agree that those cars should not derail under any circumstances. You should understand that they should be built to withstand things like that. They are made to run on the rail, and as such they should not derail. Blah. I will take the high road here, and not flame, as some assholes have done here, and we should wonder who the smart ones are there. But whatever. It absolutely wouldn't be funny if some dyslexic fyrfyter had to come cut someone out of the antique cars with the jaws of life, however that was not the case. And if you think that the sum of money it took to repair the damage was anything Kings Island would miss, or would impact new ride construction, then I would suggest that you think again. p.s. I don't mean to critiscize firefighters in general, some just are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovian Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 look... im not insulting anyone for their typing... im calling you dumb because of your obvious lack of common sense. Inraider has summed it all up really well... These cars should withstand being ran into the rails. If they don't, theres serious problems. ~Jovian~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 Plus, the people that designed it knew that i must be able to withstand people doing that. AND, when you get close to the station and the guy/gal that hops on the side of the car and drives you into the station just step on the outside pedal. So there doing it anyway! Just quoting what I said before. (I knew that this would happen.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted November 5, 2002 Share Posted November 5, 2002 You are a moron Bob Dole. Sure it's ok if it happens and somewhat amusing, but it is a stupid thing that happened and it shouldn't be treid. If it happens it happens, but don't try to. Everyone watch your language to this is a family board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Dole Posted November 5, 2002 Author Share Posted November 5, 2002 So you're going to tell me that you've never run a car into the rail? bull. and where do you get off calling me a moron? especially when i'm not the only one who said it. youre justa little ***** and i think you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted November 5, 2002 Share Posted November 5, 2002 This is starting to get out of hand. GROW UP PEOPLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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