McSalsa Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Yet another interesting idea I've had in my head for a while- what if Kings Island switched to a pay-per-ride system, where people can pay for only what they want and nothing more? Let's assume SOB re-opens as-is for this. Also, let's add some "ride package" tickets. And be reasonable! -Ride EVERYTHING (Flats, Water Park, & Coasters) -Ride EVERYTHING Except Water Park -Ride EVERYTHING Except Roller Coasters & Water Park -Just The Coasters Except, of course, the current pay-per-rides... Here is what I would charge...note that when you re-ride, it's 50% off from the first ride. Major Roller Coasters- $3.00 Includes... Diamondback The Beast Son of Beast Invertigo Vortex Firehawk Flight of Fear Mid-Core Roller Coasters- $2.00 Includes... The Racer (Both sides) Backlot Stunt Coaster Flight Deck Adventure Express Kids Coasters- $1.00 (except LBGC) Includes... Avatar Fairly Odd Coaster Rugrats Runaway Reptar Little Bills Giggle Coaster ($0.50) Current Pay Per Rides...??? Same price as current. Mega Flatrides...$2.00 Includes... Drop Tower Delirium The Crypt Flatrides...$0.75 Includes... All Flats not in Nick-U or considered a Mega Flat Nick-U Flats...$0.25 Includes... All Nick-U Flats Water Rides...$0.75 Includes... ALL Water Rides & Slides, including Congo Falls & White Water Canyon A Free Ride...$0.00 Eiffel Tower (I'm nice here!) PACKAGES -Ride EVERYTHING (Coasters, Flats, Water Rides) $40.00 for Adults, $20.00 for kids -Ride EVERYTHING but Water Rides(except Congo & WWC, you can ride for those with this) $30.00, $15.00 for kids -Ride All Coasters $20.00, $10.00 for kids -Ride All Flats $15.00, $7.50 for kids includes Congo Falls & WWC -All Water Rides $15.00, $7.50 for kids includes Congo Falls & WWC -Eat All Day $20.00 for UNLIMITED Food & Drinks!!! So, would this be a good value? Let's see...from the day I went on May 16th... Actually Paid $29+$6+$10=$46 Under this plan... Eiffel Tower=$0 Crypt=$2 Beast=$3 SRR=$0.75 Vortex=$3 Action Theatre=$0.75 Congo Falls=$0.75 White Water Canyon=$0.75 Diamondback=$3 Flight Deck=$2 The Racer=$2 Flight of Fear=$3 Eiffel Tower re-ride=$0 The Beast re-ride=$1.50 Carosuel=$0.75 Total Paid On Rides:$23.25 Plus $20 Meal Ticket:$43.25 Holy Cow under my plan I saved 3 bucks...sorry for the crazy long post. Poll on my prices above. Enjoy. If you don't like polls(though this more of a discussion) click back. Thanks and enjoy! PS: I do NOT think we will ever see any Cedar Fair park adopt these policies, but it's fun to imagine and say "What if?" Double PS: Parking remains $15. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Don't give them any ideas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted September 6, 2009 Author Share Posted September 6, 2009 Don't give them any ideas! Good point...knowing Cedar Fair... Diamondback $10.00, $7.50 re-rides...etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 If they did that, I would never forgive them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 That would make my Kings Island trips go down from about 10 to zero. How much would Halloween Haunt cost McSalsa, under your plan of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted September 6, 2009 Author Share Posted September 6, 2009 If they did that, I would never forgive them. And then they would spread it to their other parks... Millennium Force $15.00, re-rides $10.00... Me: I'm going to Holiday World or Six Flags instead! Screw this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick2007 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Please Nooo..... I can see it now: Cincinnati Enquirer April 20, 2013; KI goes under because of Pay per Ride system much like (New York) Coney Island in 2008-2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted September 6, 2009 Author Share Posted September 6, 2009 That would make my Kings Island trips go down from about 10 to zero. How much would Halloween Haunt cost McSalsa, under your plan of course. The rides would be the same, the Haunt attractions would be $1 each, or a $10 package for all haunt attractions. You choose. And a Haunt & Rides combo is $25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRided Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 If they did that, I would never forgive them. And then they would spread it to their other parks... Millennium Force $15.00, re-rides $10.00... Me: I'm going to Holiday World or Six Flags instead! Screw this! omg DELETE thread...lmao ......jk......it would be so expencive for a large family to go to ki!! those ppl that like to ride DB 40 times in one day ......that will be 150.00 please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 That's cheaper than your normal ticket. I would pay that any day. 25 bucks for haunt and all rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted September 6, 2009 Author Share Posted September 6, 2009 Please Nooo..... I can see it now: Cincinnati Enquirer April 20, 2013; KI goes under because of Pay per Ride system much like (New York) Coney Island in 2008-2009 That might happen. But there are parks that are successful that use this system, Knoebels uses it. Here are their prices, which I used to base mine on: http://www.knoebels.com/rates.asp I think Indiana Beach might do this too...yep, they do. But they charge $30 for a ride-all-day pass. Considering how many rides KI has, a ride-all-day pass might end up being over $50...well, it already is $42.99 for the entire park. $29 if you get a discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick2007 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 I suppose but those are small regional parks. KI is not. There aren't any any major parks, to the extent of my knowledge, that use the pay-per ride system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted September 6, 2009 Author Share Posted September 6, 2009 I suppose but those are small regional parks. KI is not. There aren't any any major parks, to the extent of my knowledge, that use the pay-per ride system. True, and it is probably best the way it is. But again, this is a "What If" scenario. Always fun to do. I do wish, however, that KI would sell a "Pay One Price, eat all ya want!" food & drink ticket! $20 would be fair considering the current food prices...but then... 4 people going to KI... $120 for 4 Kroger Tickets $80 for 4 food tickets $15 for parking =$215!!! Ow...well, then again, if you decide to stuff yourself while at KI, it's still a good value... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Coney Island had this system when I was a kid. You had a choice between paying for ride tickets or the pay one price wrist band. The nice thing about this system was that it was more family friendly, meaning, grandparents who perhaps did not enjoy riding could be included in family outings without paying through the nose a huge admission price. While the pay-one-price system for tickets and season passes is nice ( especially for us coaster enthusiasts ) it is kind of sad to see those wonderful family outings at Coney to be a thing of the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted September 6, 2009 Author Share Posted September 6, 2009 One more thing I looked up was Coney Island (Ohio)'s pay one price for all rides price. Not counting the pool. $11. Then I noticed they only have 1 roller coaster and about 10-15 "adult" flats at most. Plus $7 parking. Still a good value, but is it worth travelling for 2 hours for? Not in my eyes. But, if you live close to Coney Island Ohio... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRided Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Please Nooo..... I can see it now: Cincinnati Enquirer April 20, 2013; KI goes under because of Pay per Ride system much like (New York) Coney Island in 2008-2009 That might happen. But there are parks that are successful that use this system, Knoebels uses it. Here are their prices, which I used to base mine on: http://www.knoebels.com/rates.asp I think Indiana Beach might do this too...yep, they do. But they charge $30 for a ride-all-day pass. Considering how many rides KI has, a ride-all-day pass might end up being over $50...well, it already is $42.99 for the entire park. $29 if you get a discount. well......if that ever did happen i would demand cheaper food and not 3.00 for small soda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick2007 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 ^ or the infamous 6 dollar 6 inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRided Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 ^ or the infamous 6 dollar 6 inch 5 dollar, 5 dollar foot longs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI FANATIC 37 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Well, this is an interesting post, I would probable never go to KI again. But what if you had a season pass. ( Mc Salsa might of added this but I didn't see it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 That was a pretty great poll! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI Kevin Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 ^ or the infamous 6 dollar 6 inch Or 5.60 for a 24 oz ICEE at Six Flags Over Georgia. I will say though, an ICEE never tasted so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 Well, this is an interesting post, I would probable never go to KI again. But what if you had a season pass. ( Mc Salsa might of added this but I didn't see it.) Season passes would be custom made under my plan. Decide what you want, and add it up: -Gold Perks ($20) -Platinum Perks ($50+Must Have Gold) -Ride Roller Coasters ($40) -Ride Flatrides ($20) -Waterpark ($30) -Ride Everything ($80) (Replaces above 3 options if chosen) -Unlimited Food ($60) -Unlimited Parking ($25) You can also customize the image of your season pass, ala like a Capital One Credit Card (which I don't have)! A "fully loaded" Platinum Season Pass, with all perks, would be $235. But remember, you get UNLIMITED FOOD, UNLIMITED DRINKS, AND UNLIMITED PARKING ALL SEASON LONG! And for EVERY Cedar Fair park...Cedar Point, Kings Island, Kings Dominion, Canada's Wonderland, Michigan's Adventure, Knott's Berry Farm, Carowinds...etc etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRided Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Well, this is an interesting post, I would probable never go to KI again. But what if you had a season pass. ( Mc Salsa might of added this but I didn't see it.) Season passes would be custom made under my plan. Decide what you want, and add it up: -Gold Perks ($20) -Platinum Perks ($50+Must Have Gold) -Ride Roller Coasters ($40) -Ride Flatrides ($20) -Waterpark ($30) -Ride Everything ($80) (Replaces above 3 options if chosen) -Unlimited Food ($60) -Unlimited Parking ($25) You can also customize the image of your season pass, ala like a Capital One Credit Card (which I don't have)! A "fully loaded" Platinum Season Pass, with all perks, would be $235. But remember, you get UNLIMITED FOOD, UNLIMITED DRINKS, AND UNLIMITED PARKING ALL SEASON LONG! And for EVERY Cedar Fair park...Cedar Point, Kings Island, Kings Dominion, Canada's Wonderland, Michigan's Adventure, Knott's Berry Farm, Carowinds...etc etc... -Ride Everything ($80) (Replaces above 3 options if chosen) for one day? or for whole season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 The whole pay per ride concept defeats the purpose of a season pass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRided Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 agreed!!! no good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 agreed!!! no good On second thought it does...NO SEASON PASSES FOR YOU!!! (And by you, I mean EVERYONE) JK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Ok. I speak from experience here. As a veteran ride operator (and now rides manager) at Coney Island I have been working in the rides department since 2002. That first year I was in the department, we had only two methods for letting riders on the rides. The first was a rides wristband to show that they had paid for their rides admission. The second was collecting individual ride tickets. Kiddie rides were two tickets, most flat rides were three tickets, the Python I believe was either four or six tickets. Each ride ticket cost 50 cents. So the kiddie rides were $1, the flat rides were $1.50, and the coaster was either $2 or $3. As pointed out above, this worked great for grandparents that only wanted to ride one ride, say the Ferris Wheel, with their grandchildren. However, from an operational standpoint, it was VERY difficult. You would get a parent would pay the ride tickets for six people. As a ride operator, you had to verify that they were giving you 18 ride tickets (6x3). Not to mention if it rained, the rain turned the tickets to a gooey mess. The last year that Coney offered individual ride tickets was 2003. After that time, everyone must buy either a rides wristband (even if only riding one ride) or have a season pass. At Coney, the season pass holders show their passes to the ride operators before entering the ride area (as it is free for anyone to walk the grounds of Coney Island, outside of the Sunlite Pool area). We do have a frequent problem of counterfeit passes, but on the whole, the current system works a lot better, operationally. That being said, we often get questions if we still offer individual ride tickets. This does sometimes alienate the grandparents from riding with their grandkids. And it also sometimes make parents angry when they learn that Junior needs to ride with an adult on the Ferris Wheel, and the adult chaperone must also have a rides wristband. I hope that offered some valuable first hand experience into a pay per ride system at a park that used to have that very system. And for the record, a ride all day wristband at Coney costs $11.95, or $8.95 after 4pm. Admission to Sunlite Pool only is also $11.95 and $8.95 after 4pm. A pool and rides ticket is $21.95 and $11.95 after 4pm. As an aside, tomorrow is the last regular operating day of the season at Coney. However, both Sunlite Pool and the Coney`s classic rides are open next Sunday, September 13th from 11-6. Special prices are in effect for this customer appreciation day. Rides wristbands are $6.95, admission to Sunlite is $6.95 and a pool and rides ticket is $9.95, or more than 50% off regular admission pricing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRided Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 agreed!!! no good On second thought it does...NO SEASON PASSES FOR YOU!!! (And by you, I mean EVERYONE) JK i just feel those ppl that came alot through the season would only drop their vists to maybe once or twice a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster_junky Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 wait, wasn't Kings Island suppost to be designed to break away from the ticket system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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