The Interpreter Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Nope, it was mentioned many times in the pre-announcement thread here at KIC before the Friday announcement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 And if I`m not mistaken, the few pop machines that remained at King Island last year were more than $3.50 a piece. More like $3.75 or $4. I can`t remember which. Right now, I have given up Coca-Cola entirely (I`m in my twelfth day without any sort of cola. I gave it up for Lent, but may very well stay primarily Coke free after Easter rolls around, one week before KI opens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Primarily? I gave up carbonated beverages about five years ago. I am still stunned at how much money that saves me a year (though I did it on the advice of my dentist, to help avoid/reduce cavities...from both the carbolic acid and the phosphoric acid in cola). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 Well, I`ve only ever had one cavity in my life. And that was a result of a molar that came in at an angle, that I later had braces move it into its correct position, exposing the cavity. I used to drink three to four cans of Coke a day. I quit cold turkey twelve days ago. Talk about a tough couple of days! The weird thing is, in the summer when I`d work at Coney on the weekends, I would almost always drink tons of water while there. But only on days that I worked at Coney! Now, I`m drinking water almost all the time. Makes me wish it was time for Coney to open already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondback FOF Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 During this past summer, I started getting ice water when going out to eat instead of a soda. I never drank much soda anyways, but I cut it out almost completely and went a long time without any! Today, I still usually get ice water but have gotten a couple sodas recently During the day I drink a couple Powerade Zeros and water and milk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast1979 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I've never liked soft drinks. At all. Ever. So I guess I'm the fortunate one, not having to try and quit, having not started in the first place! Of course, I compensate by drinking gallons of milk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2raptor Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I really do not understand why there are so many people that are against this attraction. I believe that this is a great addition to our (Families, Roller Coaster Gods, Enthusiasts, Wildlife, or whatever else I can't think of) wonderful Kings Island. Don't forget before last Friday we only knew of WindSeeker and now we have both that and Dino Alive. I'll also add that I was already pretty pumped for WindSeeker and think it will be ALOT better then others think. I know I will be there opening day and try to be one of the first in line for WindSeeker and I will also try to be the first for Dino Alive. I know that when I first saw the upcharge fee I was kinda in shock but after a few days it sounds extremely reasonable due to the upkeep of such an attraction. Remember with most of the upcharge attractions Kings Island does offer a special before noon, so I hope it continues with this. I also have get a big A+ to Don and Kings Island for the teaser page; all of us were completely lost and it brought some fun to the Off Season. I think I posted on the main topic on page 10 on the 11th and it is currently on page 98 (wow is really all that I can think but at least it was nice reading material). Also remember one thing that this proves is that Kings Island DOES read this board. I know that certain users on this board will not think the same way I do but maybe this will help a little. I also can promise that a user with a similar name as mine and I are not playing Good Cop/Bad Cop as I do not know them or really don't know if I would want to. Just some thoughts of a long time lurker and theme park enthusiast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondback FOF Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 ^^omg I LOVE drinking me some good ol milk, too! And didn't have to try to quit drinking the soda...it was simple ^I pretty much agree with that entire post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB_TOM Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 While I can say that KI seems to be trying to cater to both families and thrill seekers this year, they have failed in both. First off, WindSeeker, in my opinion, looks like an oversized Zephyr. This ride looks low capacity and as thrilling as going up the Tower. In fact, from what I have heard, the ride will not have chains like on Zephyr, but bars, which means the ride will not swing at all, just straight up, couple circles, and down. That sure sounds thrilling to me.... As for Dinosaurs, it is a recycled idea as was mentioned earlier, and would be a fine FREE attraction for the park. HOWEVER, to charge anything with this "attraction" to gold pass holders is ridiculous. I understand that KI is having someone else take care of this attraction, but to snub your pass holders is not the right thing to do. I for one will NOT be attending this attraction. To sum it up, this year KI is trying to stretch themselves too thin while trying to stay under a small budget. If you want to do two attractions, that's fine, but make sure that you are going to do it right, not what I am seeing this year: A half-ass attempt to please two markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg1998 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Here's my question (and no, it's no complaint): Where is this going to be located under categories on KI's site? They're going to need a way for people to know it's there , from looking at the website........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I agree that I would be pleased to visit this attraction if it were given a different pricing scheme. Honestly, I would find it incredibly reasonable if it were $4.00 for visitors, $2.00 for pass-holders. Consider something like Xtreme Skyflier or Slingshot. We are talking about very, very low capacity attractions who almost intrinsically require a limitation to be placed on who can ride it - in this case, money. If it didn't cost extra, the line would be infinite. Supply and demand. In order to make the ride profitable, its income must surpass its operating costs. That search for profit must also be balanced with the demand for the experience. So on slow days, $5.00 is enough to keep the line filled to the right amount, and to keep the ride's operation financially worthwhile. On heavy traffic days, the balance is at $20.00. But this Dinosaurs Alive attraction will be operating all day, every day, whether five, fifty, or five hundred people are viewing it. Perhaps there will be a day when the operating costs far, far exceed the income produced. The parks hope is that there will be more days when the income trumps the operation. There is no individual experience that relies on the customers to take life. Slingshot would be useless without visitors. Dinosaurs Alive will not have that same limitation. It's going to operate whether I visit or not, so it's almost silly for me to pay that much (I feel the same way about drinks in fast food restaurants - free, unlimited refills, with people dumping out full large cups if they change their mind, but I have to pay exorbitant amounts for a drink of my own? Can't I simply take a "credit" from the old woman who didn't get a refill and have a free drink? Not sociologically sensical of course, but financially...) Granted, I see that that is how dinosaur exhibits often work in zoos. The difference here is, you've already spent upwards of $150 dollars to get your family into Kings Island, and even beyond that, there's a reason why upcharge dinosaur exhibits at zoos are traveling exhibits. Fun, interactive, and unique as they might be, how many times is the same customer likely to pay extra to visit, even after three or four years? Certainly pass-holders are even LESS likely to keep coming back, as they may be at the park weekly, daily, hourly... I think $2.00 is a fair price for passholders, and $4.00 is the upper limit for what customers will pay after a certain number of months. Of course, we'll find out. If the pricing scheme isn't working, it will change. ... Or not (Sorry to pull a Terpy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast1979 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Here's my question (and no, it's no complaint): Where is this going to be located under categories on KI's site? They're going to need a way for people to know it's there , from looking at the website........ Well, at the moment it's dominating the homepage, so I don't see much problem for that right now; but in the future, when it comes time to sell season passes and advertise the 30th, I'd imagine they'll put it under the Family Attractions category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Same here. I personally will spend the money a few times to ride.... If you spend the money, you won't be riding, you'll be walking. And paying $5.00 for the privilege of doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I've been thinking... I wonder if the groups will be guided by a "tour guide" or something? That would make the upcharge make more sense and explain how they expect to supervise such a huge trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondback FOF Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I don't think this will be too hard to supervise. The thing I worry about is people going in and screwing with the stuff...but hopefully the $5 will deter most of the idiots who would want to just do that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 It's nearly a mile long and seems to have a lot of twists and turns. They can't possibly be intending to staff it enough to have a person watching it as much as would probably be necessary. Wasn't supervision the downfall of the Rivertown nature trail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 True. In fact, that may be one of the best reasons to have an upcharge at all. After all, like it or not an amusement park caters to a far different crowd than a zoo. I hate to think how some 13 - 15 year olds who think they're too cool for school might treat these displays, or worse yet, the 17 - 20 year olds trying to show off. Having an upcharge will keep them away. I just think that a $2.00 / $4.00 one would accomplish the same thing without being a blatant cry for money. Free to park, but not to see the dinosaurs? Interesting priorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I think part of it is that, if they gave season passholders free entry, it would "clog up" the trail for those with day tickets who paid to enter it and would have higher expectations than those who got in free as much as they wanted. I know that's a bad way of putting it, but it gets the point across... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Freak Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Free to park, but not to see the dinosaurs? Interesting priorities. I park every time I visit the park. I don't have to see the dinosaurs every time. I'll take the free parking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 ^ That's another post I wish we could "like" like on Facebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieseltech20 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Yeah, I'd rather have free parking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondback FOF Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 ^ That's another post I wish we could "like" like on Facebook. When the forums were upgraded/redesigned, didn't they originally have a like and dislike button? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 At one time, they did. Over at Brand X (which barely exists these days), those buttons are still there, though disabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I can imagine the outcry if the 2011 Gold Pass was changed to include DA and exclude free parking. We all saw what changing the rides for ERT did..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Open air dinosaur museum proposed for state park in Florida Keys A German-based company says it can draw 40,000 to 70,000 more visitors per year to the park in Islamorada by creating a prehistoric open-air museum within the 32 preserved acres. The big lure: life-size replicas of giant dinosaurs, a 45-foot Megalodon shark and other prehistoric creatures that roamed the earth and seas long before the Florida island chain came into existence 125,000 years ago. “Just to protect the coral fossils is one thing, but I think the tourists and people want more,” said Bernd Wolter, founder of German-based Bernd Wolter Design, which creates and builds the life-size replicas. http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/03/20/2125386/open-air-dinosaur-museum-proposed.htmlPerhaps the powers that be at KI are onto something with DA. An entire park in Florida? That is a big investment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I certainly didn't mean to indicate that the dinosaur park should replace free parking. Rather, I was saying that free parking seems like a higher tier than their dinosaur park, and so it's strange that the latter isn't included. If you can get the gold, you should also be able to get the silver, right? My proposition was for $2.00 entry for passholders, and I stick by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 It would be intresting to know how much this exhibit actually costs KI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 It would be intresting to know how much this exhibit actually costs KI. Judging by all the comments that KI has had to censor from its Facebook page, I would say that this is going to cost them something more than the nickels it costs to install the exhibit. How much, I do not know. But the park is obviously hoping that the revenue exceeds those combined "costs" and that they make a profit. I share that hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Judging by all the comments that KI has had to censor from its Facebook page, I would say that this is going to cost them something more than the nickels it costs to install the exhibit. Do you mean people are claiming they will not go to the park because of an attraction that has an optional expense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Judging by all the comments that KI has had to censor from its Facebook page, I would say that this is going to cost them something more than the nickels it costs to install the exhibit. Do you mean people are claiming they will not go to the park because of an attraction that has an optional expense? There is much more to it than that. "Goodwill" is an asset of any business, and KI has lost some of that among the people who don't like the attraction and/or the fact that it is an upcharge. On the other hand, they have increased their goodwill among people who like and are willing to pay for the attraction. I'm sure they have done marketing research that suggests to them that the latter outweighs the former, and makes this a wise investment. As I said, I hope they are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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