malem Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Some context: URLs on websites like Cedar Fair's, with content management systems, generally operate with a set of rules. These rules get interpreted by software running on the server, such as Apache's rewrite engine. Each rule defines one or more valid addresses. For example, there's most likely a rule that defines visitkingsisland.com/rides/*, with the * being a wildcard. This rule might turn a friendly address like visitkingsisland.com/rides/Thrill-Rides-12-14-11-44/The-Beast into a less-friendly address like visitkingsisland.com/content.cfm?id=Thrill-Rides-12-14-11-44&format=rides&name=The-Beast . When no rule is found, the default behavior is apparently set to redirect to the home page. The fact that a rule exists for visitkingsisland.com/Banshee only means that someone on their IT/web staff defined it. Keep in mind that the park knows that the enthusiast community is well aware of that trademark application. Web developers can be sneaky people, and even they might not have access to details of the ride yet. Perhaps they used this name for testing an announcement page, not yet knowing for sure what the name would be. It's still premature to draw conclusions. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Also, web developers can be sneaky people, and even they might not have access to details of this ride yet. Perhaps they used this name for testing an announcement page, not yet knowing for sure what the name would be. Very true. CP web developers did a very good job in testing the Gatekeeper page last year. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnofthedead Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Edited: Decided I was arguing about nothing. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Not trying to argue :-) All rides on https://www.visitkingsisland.com/ have this after /rides/Thrill-Rides-12-14-11-44/ then ride name.Doesnt matter if its The Beast or Firehawk. Your right none of the rides on https://www.visitkingsisland.com/ridename has that URL, which also applys to https://www.visitkingsisland.com/Banshee. If Banshee is the name it would have /rides/Thrill-Rides-12-14-11-44/Banshee to match all the other rides. I'm not trying to argue either. All is good! Just because Banshee has the https://www.visitkingsisland.com/Banshee url, that doesn't mean it would have the other until later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Not trying to argue :-) All rides on https://www.visitkingsisland.com/ have this after /rides/Thrill-Rides-12-14-11-44/ then ride name.Doesnt matter if its The Beast or Firehawk. Your right none of the rides on https://www.visitkingsisland.com/ridename has that URL, which also applys to https://www.visitkingsisland.com/Banshee. If Banshee is the name it would have /rides/Thrill-Rides-12-14-11-44/Banshee to match all the other rides. To clarify: /rides/Thrill-Rides-12-14-11-44/Banshee is where the permanent ride page would end up, yes. However, the temporary announcement site will likely use something like https://www.visitkingsisland.com/Banshee . This is because this format makes it easier for the web developers to set up multiple pages for the ride, which announcement websites often have. Does that make sense? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnofthedead Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yes it does, also quit careing about 5 mins ago lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryoj Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Can we go back to the intamin vs B&M debate? zzzz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 ^NOOOOOOOO!!!! Anything but that!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asamccormick Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Here to add my two cents, take them for what they're worth. I have ridden several B&M inverts and i absolutely love them. I started riding Batman: The Ride at Six Flags St. Louis (considered one of the best in the SF franchise) has always just been the one coaster that does it for me. I've also had a chance to ride Batman at Six Flags Magic Mountain, and I'd also agree that it was an excellent ride as well. Despite inverts possibly passing their peak when it comes to being constructed, I think that KI could have a masterpiece on deck if it is indeed an invert. The thing I like about the invert idea is that a very compact coaster can provide the craziest ride. All Batman rides have a small-ish compact design and the rides are great- even if it only is for a minute 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yes it does, quit careing also lol Good, because I was about ready to quit caring myself after reading all of that. Can we go back to the intamin vs B&M debate? zzzz I think it's going to be a B&M, but I don't have a strong preference either way since both have their pros and cons. ^NOOOOOOOO!!!! Anything but that!!! It's either that or continue confusing everybody with the semi-geeky discussion. At least I can laugh at the arguments over Intafail and Boring & Mediocre. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonbackandbeastlover Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 i hear the fireworks from my house 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 ^NOOOOOOOO!!!! Anything but that!!! It's either that or continue confusing everybody with the semi-geeky discussion. At least I can laugh at the arguments over Intafail and Boring & Mediocre. You calling me a geek? I'm can rest a sure you that I am not (other than the fact that this URL stuff isn't confusing me...its pretty simple if you explain it well...which I'm not doing a good job of)....I'm just decoding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiocolts Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 As I guessed, last nights tweet was not related to Project 2014. Here are some pics anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonbackandbeastlover Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 why does everyone hate b&m and love intamin? I don't really know the difference but can someone explain to me? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Replacing the momentous SoB and having construction going on for months now, yes I would say that is hype along wiith the tweets. YoungStud, you're disappointment is your own fault. You hyped it up in your own mind. It seems you want a 350' Intamin giga that goes 98mph with sharp turns and ejector airtime, which in and of itself is fine, if that's what you want. I think anything less than that is going to be a disappointment to you. A lot of people seem to hype it up in their minds, and that's what causes the letdown when they see it's not what they envisioned in their heads. But KI hasn't done anything to hype this up to be anything more than what it is.....and they haven't even told us what it is yet. So any and all speculation by anyone at KIC is based on their own fantasies and interpretations. The hype is not fed by KI at all. Is that asking to much? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Can we go back to the intamin vs B&M debate? zzzz yes zzzzzzzzzzz 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 ^NOOOOOOOO!!!! Anything but that!!! It's either that or continue confusing everybody with the semi-geeky discussion. At least I can laugh at the arguments over Intafail and Boring & Mediocre. You calling me a geek? I'm can rest a sure you that I am not (other than the fact that this URL stuff isn't confusing me...its pretty simple if you explain it well...which I'm not doing a good job of)....I'm just decoding. Any discussion of the intricacies of URLs, or any highly technical discussion for that matter, has a geekiness level above zero. We probably confused three-fourth of all KICers in that discussion. So I'm not calling you a geek (a badge that I proudly wear myself), but the discussion was kinda geeky. EDIT: See the post immediately above for evidence that we were either confusing or boring people with that discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryoj Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I really think a B&M inverted is the right coaster for the park right now. Or at least a B&M multilooper of some sort. They need another reliable people eater, and I'm in the camp that thinks The Vortex won't be around too many more years. An invert is a flashy looking ride that the general public will be drawn to, so it works on many levels. If they can push it to 7 or 8 inversions, they get more publicity and can claim records to drive pass and ticket sales. If not, its still a coaster that will do what its supposed to do for many years. That being said, I'd trade most of the rides in the park if we could have dragster. lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Maybe a B&M invert that pushes the envelope with many new elements. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 ^NOOOOOOOO!!!! Anything but that!!! It's either that or continue confusing everybody with the semi-geeky discussion. At least I can laugh at the arguments over Intafail and Boring & Mediocre. You calling me a geek? I'm can rest a sure you that I am not (other than the fact that this URL stuff isn't confusing me...its pretty simple if you explain it well...which I'm not doing a good job of)....I'm just decoding. Any discussion of the intricacies of URLs, or any highly technical discussion for that matter, has a geekiness level above zero. We probably confused three-fourth of all KICers in that discussion. So I'm not calling you a geek (a badge that I proudly wear myself), but the discussion was kinda geeky. EDIT: See the post immediately above for evidence that we were either confusing or boring people with that discussion. Oh well, life shall now move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 why does everyone hate b&m and love intamin? I don't really know the difference but can someone explain to me? B&m is the Arrow Dynamics of today. They make outdated forceless rides and their hyper/giga coasters only have a little floater air. Intamin leads the pack in innovations. They try new things with their rides, new elements, take chances, strong ejector air. They are the present and the future of the industry. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonbackandbeastlover Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 why does everyone hate b&m and love intamin? I don't really know the difference but can someone explain to me? B&m is the Arrow Dynamics of today. They make outdated forceless rides and their hyper/giga coasters only have a little floater air. Intamin leads the pack in innovations. They try new things with their rides, new elements, take chances, strong ejector air. They are the present and the future of the industry. what coasters at ki are b&m and what are intamin so i an get a better understanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg1998 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 why does everyone hate b&m and love intamin? I don't really know the difference but can someone explain to me? B&m is the Arrow Dynamics of today. They make outdated forceless rides and their hyper/giga coasters only have a little floater air. Intamin leads the pack in innovations. They try new things with their rides, new elements, take chances, strong ejector air. They are the present and the future of the industry. what coasters at ki are b&m and what are intamin so i an get a better understanding B&M: Diamondback Intamin: Zero At Cedar Point, though - Millennium Force, Maverick, and TTD are all Intamin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoF96" Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 why does everyone hate b&m and love intamin? I don't really know the difference but can someone explain to me? B&m is the Arrow Dynamics of today. They make outdated forceless rides and their hyper/giga coasters only have a little floater air. Intamin leads the pack in innovations. They try new things with their rides, new elements, take chances, strong ejector air. They are the present and the future of the industry. They also lead the pack in accidents... and not just with their coasters. Ex. a few superman ride of steel. a few different Drop Towers, capsized raft rides, and most recently a capsized shoot the rapids.... the list is so large compared to B&M... and I did not even list all of them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 why does everyone hate b&m and love intamin? I don't really know the difference but can someone explain to me? B&m is the Arrow Dynamics of today. They make outdated forceless rides and their hyper/giga coasters only have a little floater air. Intamin leads the pack in innovations. They try new things with their rides, new elements, take chances, strong ejector air. They are the present and the future of the industry. Intamin is more than likely currently using its cutting edge innovation to design a ride that can, somehow, have more downtime than its predecessors 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Intamin: B&M: Diamondback: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbowl Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 why does everyone hate b&m and love intamin? I don't really know the difference but can someone explain to me? B&m is the Arrow Dynamics of today. They make outdated forceless rides and their hyper/giga coasters only have a little floater air. Intamin leads the pack in innovations. They try new things with their rides, new elements, take chances, strong ejector air. They are the present and the future of the industry. They also lead the pack in accidents... and not just with their coasters. Ex. a few superman ride of steel. a few different Drop Towers, capsized raft rides, and most recently a capsized shoot the rapids.... the list is so large compared to B&M... and I did not even list all of them. Who cares? It's so infrequent it doesn't matter. When you're constantly using new technology, accidents are more prone sure. But overall, Intamin makes better stuff than B&M!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 why does everyone hate b&m and love intamin? I don't really know the difference but can someone explain to me? B&m is the Arrow Dynamics of today. They make outdated forceless rides and their hyper/giga coasters only have a little floater air. Intamin leads the pack in innovations. They try new things with their rides, new elements, take chances, strong ejector air. They are the present and the future of the industry. They also lead the pack in accidents... and not just with their coasters. Ex. a few superman ride of steel. a few different Drop Towers, capsized raft rides, and most recently a capsized shoot the rapids.... the list is so large compared to B&M... and I did not even list all of them. operator error mixed in with guests of unusual body proportions. I feel for the victims and their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoF96" Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Intamin: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonbackandbeastlover Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 why does everyone hate b&m and love intamin? I don't really know the difference but can someone explain to me? B&m is the Arrow Dynamics of today. They make outdated forceless rides and their hyper/giga coasters only have a little floater air. Intamin leads the pack in innovations. They try new things with their rides, new elements, take chances, strong ejector air. They are the present and the future of the industry. They also lead the pack in accidents... and not just with their coasters. Ex. a few superman ride of steel. a few different Drop Towers, capsized raft rides, and most recently a capsized shoot the rapids.... the list is so large compared to B&M... and I did not even list all of them. hmm maybe Kings Island is trying to have a safe run and have more up time than downtime with their rides because the last ride other than Vortex getting stuck on the chain i had an issue on was the second launching mechanism on back lot stunt coaster didnt work when it was supposed to but we were stopped for about a minute. I think being safe is Kings Islands route. I havn't heard of many Kings Island accidents in a long time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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