Creed Bratton Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 http://www.sanduskyregister.com/article/4308286?utm_content=buffer966f4&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=Buffer Appears to be an injury type accident. Onlookers got into the water to help flip boat back over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster.Rider.Kings Island Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Thats terrible. I hope those people are okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Yikes...first the Texas Giant thing @ SFOT, and now this...I also hope the people in this accident were OK, and give them my thoughts. As for the ride itself...oh boy, this could be a short-lived attraction at Cedar Point if stuff like this keeps happening. I do not see Cedar Fair buying anything from Intamin anytime soon now- if Project 2014 is not a B&M, it will be something from Premier Rides, Mack, Zierer or something. Intamin? I seriously doubt it...too many problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Point Gal Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I'm hoping everyone who was injured recovers quickly. My thoughts are with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Doesn't that ride have anti-rollbacks? If not, then Intamin and/or Cedar Point should be held liable for this, and the ride should not be allowed to reopen without having them installed. If it does already have them, then why could they have failed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 UPDATED 9 p.m.: Firelands Regional Medical Center staff said one person who was involved in the crash on Shoot the Rapids has arrived at the hospital for treatment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Doesn't that ride have anti-rollbacks? If not, then Intamin and/or Cedar Point should be held liable for this, and the ride should not be allowed to reopen without having them installed. If it does already have them, then why could they have failed? The boat was apparently traveling backwards.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 Which makes me wonder how it got turned around to backwards. It doesn't look like the troughs before the lifts are even wide enough for the boats to turn around in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Doesn't that ride have anti-rollbacks? If not, then Intamin and/or Cedar Point should be held liable for this, and the ride should not be allowed to reopen without having them installed. If it does already have them, then why could they have failed? The boat was apparently traveling backwards.... YIKES. Sounds like a major design flaw...this ride could be in for either a major modification, or removed for another attraction. I don't see it re-opening as-is right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Doesn't that ride have anti-rollbacks? If not, then Intamin and/or Cedar Point should be held liable for this, and the ride should not be allowed to reopen without having them installed. If it does already have them, then why could they have failed? The boat was apparently traveling backwards.... Backwards down a lift hill, which is why I asked about anti-rollbacks. From the article (emphasis added): Sometime around 6:30 p.m., a Shoot the Rapids boat was ascending the first lift hill when the ride malfunctioned, sending the boat backwards and into the entry chute, witnesses said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 First accounts are often wildly inaccurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP&LERR Fan Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 They had a shoot the rapids before this one back in 1967. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 No relation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanna Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Under water a few minutes- a nightmare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP&LERR Fan Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 No relation... Don't know why I said that, anyway hope the people are okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Seat belts on water rides have always been somewhat controversial.... 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Under water a few minutes- a nightmare. I can't imagine that. I can only hold my breath for about 45 seconds, maybe a minute if I absolutely had to. Beyond that, I'm drowning. And those numbers are assuming I'm able to prepare by taking deep breaths (i.e. that I'm underwater intentionally or that I have enough advance notice and am calm enough to prepare). Without preparing, I might be drowning in 30 seconds. Seat belts on water rides have always been somewhat controversial.... Locking lap bars that you can't easily get out of like on Shoot the Rapids and Giraffica at HW always make me a bit nervous on water rides. Non-locking seat belts like White Water Canyon, CP's Thunder Canyon, or HW's Raging Rapids that you can release on your own in an emergency are fine with me. Snake River Falls at CP is kind of a gray area; it has locking lap bars, but they are of the single-position variety, and you probably could squirm out of them if needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfreak22108 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Seat belts on water rides have always been somewhat controversial.... This is why seat belts should not be on water rides, because anything can happen like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI FANATIC 37 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 This is terrible for the families involved, Cedar Point, and, Intamin. I'm would not be surprised if this ride has a future very similar to SoB, but only a much shorter life time. Its been a bad day for amusement parks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfreak22108 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 ^ Very bad day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontWantToWait42mar0 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 This could have been any of us. Today is a sad day for the industry. I feel for all those involved. I only wish I was there to get the boat turned over faster. Seat belts on water rides have always been somewhat controversial.... This is why seat belts should not be on water rides, because anything can happen like this. Seat belts can be released by the rider, over the shoulder restraints cannot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Cedar Point had already not had a good week. Last week, a maintenance worker fell from Millennium Force, and a Gatekeeper rider came back into the station nonresponsive: http://www.sanduskyregister.com/article/cedar-point/4292906 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI FANATIC 37 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Oh my, at least in those cases it wasn't the rides fault. But still ,any bad incidents like this is very bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Make that not a good month. At the beginning of the month, a Snake River Falls boat jumped the trough. http://www.sanduskyregister.com/article/4242381 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSkippy Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 That sounds absolutely dreadful. Hopefully the cause of the accident can be determined quickly and something like this never happens again. And, as always, my thoughts are with those affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick00 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 This is just not the year for Cedar Point. First Snake River Falls, then the Millenium and Gatekeeper incidents, then the cable snapping on SkyHawk and now this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 ^PR department will have lots of work for the next few days. On a more serious note, I'm still trying to figure out how it could of rolled back down the lift hill. How can anti-rollbacks fail??? UPDATE:http://www.sanduskyregister.com/article/4308286?utm_content=buffer966f4&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=Buffer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Didn't they say the boats were too heavy and that's why the ride opened late in 2010? Also why they didn't load the back row of the boats that season? Could it have been an issue with how the ride ops balanced the boat before it was sent out? They said only 7 riders were on the boat, so we know an entire row plus one seat was empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTW Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 This isn't as tragic as the Six Flags incident but it is still sad and alarming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Not fixing a problem (improperly balanced boats) will come back to bite you, as it did today. I hope this is the last straw for Shoot the Rapids. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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