BoddaH1994 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 The Avengers are coming to Kings Island! Monday, July 21, from 2:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m., Kings Island invites you to meet Captain America, Thor and Ironman. More details: https://www.visitkingsisland.com/events/things-to-do/events-and-promotions/The-Avengers-are-coming-to-Kings-Island 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dtk1376 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Wonder if they will come down and visit the Super Friends at the Cincinnati Museum Center (aka Hall of Justice) 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofFirehawk Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Is Cedar Fair in cooperation with Disney? Disney owns the rights to Marvel, correct? So in order for these characters to make an appearance, there would have been an exchange on currency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 Is Cedar Fair in cooperation with Disney? Disney owns the rights to Marvel, correct? So in order for these characters to make an appearance, there would have been an exchange on currency.Not necessarily. Sometimes a 3rd party will license the characters and will have the right to do appearance events. That's how it typically works. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Nevertheless, it's interesting that Disney would sign an agreement allowing them into non-Disney amusement park(s). They traditionally have been rather protective of these rights. It does make a lot of business sense, though. The Avengers get promoted ahead of the property's next film, and KI's guests get an appearance that many will enjoy. Presumably KI is making money from the promotion as well. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHODEY2007 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Don't forget that Universal also has certain licenses for The Avengers characters. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanna Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 A Disney Avenger would be one in the film uniforms, am I right? A Marvel Avenger would be drssed in the more traditional garb from the comics? Disney Ironman would sound like a trashbag of batting helmets when he walked around to greet the kids. There's so many legal divisions in companies today. The Marvel Lego game is put out by Warner Bros.. I recall The Transformers were a big hit when they came to the park. They guys inside the suit wore throat mics, so their senses of humor came off a little strange with the flat electronic voices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 It'd be funny if, like, 8 Tom Hiddleston look-alikes showed up to play "Loki" in multiple locations. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 The way I understand it, Disney owns all Marvel rights EXCEPT for amusement parks east of the Mississippi. At least that's how I'm interpreting the contract between Marvel and Universal Studios. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Will they be taking the company car? Parody; images from multiple sources. For expression only. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XGatorHead 8904 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 ^Now that I'd like to see! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screaming_Chicken Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Really? I'd rather see Scooby-Doo than the Avengers..Don't want to make waves but..yeah. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Really? I'd rather see Scooby-Doo than the Avengers..Don't want to make waves but..yeah. Oh, alright! 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I wonder if this has anything to do with a certain Comic Convention later this year.... Plus maybe Marvel is making an attempt to get more buyers of ther comic books.... And nerd moment : the Helicarier is used by Shield, the Avengers use a Quinjet Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Aren't The Avengers technically agents of S.H.I.E.L.D themselves? At least Director Fury is... Man that show got good at the end of the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 This is no more out of place than seeing a plush Olaf being offered as a prize at the goblet cup game in Coney Mall. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XGatorHead 8904 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 ^I for one am glad the park is helping those Olafs get the warm hugs they so desperately want. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Aren't The Avengers technically agents of S.H.I.E.L.D themselves? At least Director Fury is... Man that show got good at the end of the season. Sure has! Especially since they brought in Hollywood big gun Bill Paxton (Million Dollar Arm, Aliens, Apollo 13, Titanic, Twister, True Lies, Tombstone, The Terminator......) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 *pushes glasses up on nose and cracks open the official Marvel handbook* SHIELD is a government (sometimes world) agency with Nick Fury as director. The Avengers are a group of supers who get together to fight bad guys. Shield does work with them in the way they ask for help or tell them where to go. But many times in the comics, Avengers and Shield don't always see eye to eye. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Ok. S.H.I.E.L.D operates the thing, but Stark built it, and after what he and Cap' had to go through to keep it flying (I haven't seen the movie whose trailer shows it crashing yet), I think they deserve to fly it around awhile; visit an amusement park here and there... see some sights... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 The use of Disney around the park has been interesting lately....To say the least.... The Avengers come to Kings Island..... Frozen is shown at a "Dive-In Movie"........ The Little Mermaid is shown at a "Dive-In Movie"...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 The Beach is running Frozen during their Dive In movie as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Don't forget: Roy Disney's counsel is somewhere in the very fabric of our beloved acres... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Don't forget: Roy Disney's counsel is somewhere in the very fabric of our beloved acres...And Walt. More to come on that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 The Marvel thing is confusing as all get out. I can't make heads or tails of it and wouldn't try. But remember that many of the characters are protected by Marvel's contract with Universal / MCA from appearing in theme parks east of the Mississippi. Last I checked, Kings Island was, so either the characters in question are not protected by that contract or they're appearing under a license from a third party who has permission to allow them to appear. Also, doesn't the contract stipulate something about being in a permanent attraction, which this certainly isn't? And what about that section saying that characters with familial ties to the Universal attractions couldn't appear? In this case, none of the characters coming to Kings Island (Captain America, Iron Man and Thor – "The Avengers") are reasonably related to the character families present in Marvel Super Hero Island (Fantastic 4, Spider-Man, X-Men). The two stipulations above explain why Walt Disney World could have the Avengers monorail (sans Hulk) and why Guardians of the Galaxy 3D previews can be shown there just without the Marvel moniker. One way or another, this is obviously allowed. These contracts are just too complicated for the average person, and even experts could probably play around with relationships and things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 First Long live Scooby for those of us that remember it. The marvel deal with disney so weird for sure. Really glad that they are coming to Kings Island, for sure though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 The Marvel thing is confusing as all get out. I can't make heads or tails of it and wouldn't try. But remember that many of the characters are protected by Marvel's contract with Universal / MCA from appearing in theme parks east of the Mississippi. Last I checked, Kings Island was, so either the characters in question are not protected by that contract or they're appearing under a license from a third party who has permission to allow them to appear. Also, doesn't the contract stipulate something about being in a permanent attraction, which this certainly isn't? And what about that section saying that characters with familial ties to the Universal attractions couldn't appear? In this case, none of the characters coming to Kings Island (Captain America, Iron Man and Thor "The Avengers") are reasonably related to the character families present in Marvel Super Hero Island (Fantastic 4, Spider-Man, X-Men). The two stipulations above explain why Walt Disney World could have the Avengers monorail (sans Hulk) and why Guardians of the Galaxy 3D previews can be shown there just without the Marvel moniker. One way or another, this is obviously allowed. These contracts are just too complicated for the average person, and even experts could probably play around with relationships and things. I think you nailed it at the top of your post... It's a 3rd party company that has paid for the licensing to solicit character appearances. I think you guys are reading too far into the Disney connection on this one. Yeah, they bought it but it's not integrated into their ecosystem yet. I think it would be a totally different conversation if Mickey, Minnie, and Pluto were making an appearance. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Marvel and Disney are registered trademarks and, as such, are always capitalized here. Westcoaster, I know your caps key works (see Scooby), please use it. This is, sadly, serious business. It's not a running gag...or at least not meant to be. And Roy Disney's counsel in the fabric of Kings Island? The lawyers are EVERYWHERE! Walt's too? Terp, sitting back waiting for more edjumacation and edification (edifice-ication?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Yeah, I'd say definitely not Disney who's bringing them in. The Walt Disney Company has much bigger things on its plate and doesn't dabble in character appearances in the Midwest. The rest of the question is how they can appear in terms of the Universal / Marvel contract period, which I think is because of that third party and because it's a non-permanent attraction that doesn't feature one of Universal's featured characters. But again, it probably didn't even need to get to the point of asking that question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 As my dear father used to say when I had asked "Why?" one too many times, "Some things are for little boys to ask questions about." Terp, whose first word, honestly, was not MaMa or DaDa as his parents were respectively rooting for, but "Why?" He's been asking questions ever since. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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