bkroz Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 It is a little hypocritical that many of us rally behind parks getting flat rides, then lambaste the park for adding one that isn't "right" for whatever reason. No, they're not coasters by most definitions. Who cares? I'll never get the whole "is it or isn't it?" question because other than those of us who like to keep track, who cares? I'm guilty of it, too. I probably wouldn't ride these Super Loop rides (not because I deem them unsafe or cheap or anything, but because I'm not the target market) except maybe once to say I did. But they're fine flat rides I guess. It IS weird since they're so synonymous with carnivals but oh well. People will like it. That's what counts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 larger, more fun versions Larger does not necessarily equal more fun. See, for example, HUSS Frisbees. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Or HUSS anything. Or S&S towers. Or roller coasters... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Now, I laugh, tee-hee. SIX made a few flats, some find mediocre, others, amazing. Good play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I happen to like the S&S towers. And from what I have seen, so does the GP. I think that the Super Loopers, or whatever they are called, are good, cheap installations. A few of these parks installing them may be getting what enthusiasts would call "legitimate" additions in the following year. I've been on one of the smaller ones at either the Jackson Apple Festival or the Pumpkin Festival in Milton when I was in the high school band. I took my girlfriend on that ride and she was so terrified, that she began to cry once we got going. I had to keep telling her that it wasn't that bad. I had been on more intense coasters at KI and that was back in the 80's. I had probably been on Vortex and Beast by that time. So, even though it seemed a little on the tame side to me, she was scared senseless. I thought it was fun, but not terrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I happen to like the S&S towers. And from what I have seen, so does the GP. So do I. I used them as an example of "bigger does not always mean better," as begun in Goble's post above mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Well- having taken a nap and thought some more, as well as read some discussion, I can add a few more thoughts:On The Mega Loops: Upon further thinking, I can KINDA see the point behind these additions...barely. I remembered these go back and forth and all that, where a regular coaster would just go through its loop and be done. And these are still fun rides. Still, I would have gone for something else- do the parks getting these have Frisbees? If not, then I'd add one of those instead, for example- does not have to be giant, either. I still have to question how popular these will be. Also, on the "big new coaster" thing, I was mainly thinking when was the last time Six Flags made a large, expensive coaster that wasn't RMC, and 2012's X-Flight was what came up. To be honest I expected a B&M Wingrider in this announcement at some point...but nope. The only other thought, as I thought about the RMC woodies again: At least Six Flags and RMC figured out you can have different colors for your track besides red. Which I welcome- BTW RMC if you do any more "natural" colored woodies again, go with brown or black track. It'd look way better and would actually look more "wooden". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I smell a bulk purchase of those loopy loopy coasters. I wouldn't be surprised if we get an installation at each park 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 ^I'm also pretty sure that's gonna happen at this point. I have to wonder if Six Flags spent all their 2015 budget on the RMC Woodies and those Justice Leauge Dark Rides (among others), and thus had to buy a bunch of fairly inexpensive Mega Loops so they could continue their "a new attraction every year at every park" thing they have been doing. Reminds me a bit of the later Paramount Parks years (post-Son of Beast & TR:TR) as far as additions go...nearly everyone got something, but it seemed no one got anything truly massive. Thought at least with Six Flags you have the RMC Coasters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 They will probably turn those looping 'coasters' on their sides halfway through the season like their backwards Batmans. "Its a whole new ride...maaaaan." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I don't fully understand Twisted Colossus. Is it a racing coaster? Do you ride the full circuit (both lift hills) in one go? If so, how do they synchronize the trains? Does it count as a Mobius loop? It looks fun and all, but I have so many questions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 ^It is basically, from what I can tell, a Mobius Loop Racing Steel Coaster with wooden supports. And you apparently go around twice during one ride, once on each side. Which, TBH, is a really cool concept but I hope capacity is not too big an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 If you want to see an existing coaster with the same layout concept, see Alton Towers' Smiler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 All dBaggery aside...I think their RMCs look freakin' awesome. But from sources...I am also being told that their looping rides are an upscale charge. They will cost 4 tickets. Zing! Can you say DB on here?... Edit:: I cleaned it up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 Sure. I'll say Diamond, You say Back. DB! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Love the amount of rides, and some what theme they are adding, love the two justice league rides for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 Justice League is a registered trademark used under license by Six Flags Entertainment Corporation. As such, it is always capitalized here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Yeah..those dark rides I am excited for. I don't mean to be an ahole towards Six...its just the oppertunity I can't resist. In all things internet. It just is sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_Plummer Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I've never been to a Six Flags park before. Someone mentioned tickets? Do you have to buy tickets to ride rides? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 ^ I think it was a joke referring to the fact that these flat rides are normally found at fairs and carnivals. The "Zing!" in the next line seems to support that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 I went to a fair today. I rode many rides. Not a ticket one to ride. I did buy a ticket to get in. I also went to a park. Same story. Puzzled Terpy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Whoa, yeah, wait... I just now read the whole mobius Twisted Colossus. Do we have more information on this? A racing coaster that you go through twice, once on each side? Mobius coasters are a thing, but they don't go through twice... What's the point? And oh my, capacity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I remember riding one of those loop things with Coasterfanatic2012 at our small county fair. Seems odd at a major amusement park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 https://www.sixflags.com/magicmountain/attractions/twisted-colossus/facts Its interesting at Magic Mountain: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Something to Ponder is this the future of WOOD coasters, could The Beast, could The Racer get this Iron Horse treatment, just think Holiday World? Will we still have classic wooden coasters, the Iron Horse treatment has to be better for maintenance and upkeep. https://www.sixflags.com/magicmountain/attractions/twisted-colossus/classic-colossus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 ^ It is basically, from what I can tell, a Mobius Loop Racing Steel Coaster with wooden supports. And you apparently go around twice during one ride, once on each side. Which, TBH, is a really cool concept but I hope capacity is not too big an issue. I am thinking it is a Mobius Coaster too. Don't know if it goes through each side in one cycle. In one of the videos it showed another set of trains on the tracks, so that'd be hard to figure out which two had passed through the station twice. Whoa, yeah, wait... I just now read the whole mobius Twisted Colossus. Do we have more information on this? A racing coaster that you go through twice, once on each side? Mobius coasters are a thing, but they don't go through twice... What's the point? And oh my, capacity. Not much is out there from what I've seen. Which makes me sad. I think they were marketing more toward the WOW factor versus here's the facts. Which, sometimes is cool but other times, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kblanken Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The video shows that it is a single track, using the left side of the lift hill about halfway through the ride. If they really wanted to time things right, they could possibly do an, umm, 'reverse stack'. (Kinda like how TTD or Maverick send a train ahead of the station but not advancing up the hill.) Even if they take an extra minute to load the train, the computers can figure out the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AintNutinElse2Do Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 What I don't follow is if it's a single track layout which the original layout was 4300'+ per side. How then is this only 5000'? I realize the whole layout is technically changed but it would seem nearly half of each side is being removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 That was the first thing I noticed about the track length. Ride time as well... It scared me at first as I thought it might rival The Beast. Ha ha. It doesn't. Although in fun...it might. Not at night though. Even having never rode it obviously. Or...Holiday Rode it... Holiday ro-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Holiday r-o-o-o-o-o-oad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APE Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The mega loops are fun rides I find it funny to see everyone complain about them. Carnival ride or not who cares as long as it is a fun ride? Enthusiasts complain about the dumbest things at times. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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