LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I get that, but the money is in thrill rides. It's not in the wild mouses. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsRide Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I don't see how this would require removing the log flume. It's still pretty popular. I feel like a major coaster that close to Planet Snoopy would look out of place. I feel that way about Diamondback as well.Thank you! I've been wondering since Diamondback opened why on earth the tallest coaster in the park is just outside of Planet Snoopy. It's just strange placement in my opinion. Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirium13 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I get that, but the money is in thrill rides. It's not in the wild mouses. Who do you think, on average, spends more in the park? Thrill-seekers, enthusiasts, and teens or families? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Families of course, but the addition of something like a family coaster isn't going to generate an increase in attendance the way a large thrill ride would. It's not even close. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta Lizard Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 When I said I was thinking Antique Cars, I was referring to the current construction/destruction in Rivertown not readily relatable to WWC. Do I think that KI would start teasing at the beginning of the season for a return of the 'tiques? Not really. But then again I wouldn't have expected them to make as much of a to-do about parking tolls as they did (although I do like the new tolls). I also would have expected heavy teasing at an event like Coasterstock if the prep work for a new coaster was currently happening in the park. My only "evidence" for my feeling is that is what the current cleared paths and markers for further work looks like to me, the strong movement toward nostalgia (including the return of the floral tunnel! Yay!), and antique cars are one of the things I often hear people wishing would return to the park. The only thing I hear more often (from non-enthusiasts) is about recaR. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Families of course, but the addition of something like a family coaster isn't going to generate an increase in attendance the way a large thrill ride would. It's not even close. Depends on how you sell it.... WDW and for the most Part Universal sells and caters to the family coaster/ride market. If you sell a family ride as boring not fun then yes you are right. But if you talk about the balance of rides, the perfect interactive queue etc it would increase attendance. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 But WDW and Universal have IP attached to the rides that sell the tickets. WDW could attach a couch to the back of a tractor and call it "Frozen: The Ride" and people would flock to it. Not exactly a great comparison. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWC2003Amy Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 So Really don't see them putting a high thrill ride in Planet Snoopy or taking out the log flume. Because there is room to grow around the log flume. I think that maybe construction around the log flume might cause the log flume to close and I can see them putting more family rides in that area. Ones that kids of all ages can enjoy not just thrill seekers or enthusiasts. For that reason I'm out (always wanted to do that) on there being a Giga coming into that area. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondBanshee Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I'm currently at Holiday World and I must say that a wooden coaster would be a great addition to the park. The Voyage is simply amazing and I'd love to see KI get a gravity group woody. Also, the Legends lateral G's are simply phenomenal! KI really needs a woody like these. The Beast and Racer are great, but in their own regards. A high banking woody with crazy airtime is needed. Side note: I'm still on team giga though Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Cedar Fair will do business with high maintenance GG right after it uses INTAMIN again. Enjoying those Timberliners at Holiday World? 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyDewb Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Not sure if anyone else has picked up on this yet, but I visited the park yesterday and noticed that the new line queue for WWC was built with a covered portion like other areas that might have coaster track flying above. Anyone else notice and think that may be a hint that it could be coaster coming in there? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondBanshee Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 ^^I never understood why they didn't do timberliners, but the normal trains are pretty good! Another problem is capacity. The line should be 30 minutes max for the voyage, but with a mixture of one train running and slow loading, unloading, and dispatching, the line is about an hour long. Also, Legend is very smooth. I've never been here before, but I'd say that the retracting work they've done played a huge part. Plus, the double down hill catches me off guard every time and it gives a good bit of ejector airtime. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 One train running on Voyage? On the Saturday of Memorial Day Weekend? What's THAT about? 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMaverick Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I'm still going to go with a woodie for 2017 either from RMC or GCI ( GCI more likely) and then a giga for KIs 50th anniversary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondBanshee Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 ^I'm next in line for the last row and NOW they decide to put the second train on the track smh. That is literally my luck. That stuff happens to me all the time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 But WDW and Universal have IP attached to the rides that sell the tickets. WDW could attach a couch to the back of a tractor and call it "Frozen: The Ride" and people would flock to it. Not exactly a great comparison. Fair point but you said family ride and I was just making an observation. What about Dark Kastle? If KI were to put in a heavily themed family ride or a whole new area of family rides you still don't think that would have a bump in attendance? Thrill rides are great but what is Grandma and Grandpa to do? Bake in the hot sun on a concrete pad while the the rest of the family rides a tall roller coaster? I remember a certain person in charge saying they would market to the family but what's that saying Terp says. Listen to what they say not what they do? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Watch what they do, not what they say. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm0324 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 The green and orange thing was started by someone claiming this year's cup colors were a clue. You know, rather than tropical orange and green being chosen for some... other... plunging reason.Personally I still feel the colors of the cups mean nothing. The entire chain is using the same colors.For the cups, the cup has (at least for the past few years) coincided with the major coaster that year. 2014 was purple for Banshee, 2015 teal/blue for Fury, 2016 is Orange for Valravn. The Green may have been picked at random just to have a different color to differentiate between the cups, since this is the first time they're offering 2 cups as an option. But who knows? Maybe the green is a sign of what's to come for next year. Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondBanshee Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Follow up, got stuck at the bottom of the chainlift because the chain didn't start (at least the anti-rollback worked!) and I just got off! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaks76 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 One train running on Voyage? On the Saturday of Memorial Day Weekend? What's THAT about? Nothing like being prepared for what should be one of the busiest weekends of the year. Common sense. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm0324 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I was there yesterday and the park was DEAD. The biggest issue with Holiday World is that it's in the middle of nowhere and the crowds don't really pick up until summer. But on really busy days in the summer, even 2 trains isn't enough on The Voyage. It really should run 3. At least the track was actually greased today. It wasn't on opening day and the thing was screeching like crazy, as was the Raven. The Legend was screeching yesterday, the tunnels aren't finished, and it's been closed periodically because the ride is still being worked on. My few visits there this year have been pretty disappointing. Hopefully things are running smoothly by summer. Not to mention the Scrambler is sitting in pieces.. They really should have delayed opening day and gotten themselves together. Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaks76 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Yea, I'm tryin to figure out where I'm goin next. Well, excluding tea time. HW is one that's on my radar. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta Lizard Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Not sure if anyone else has picked up on this yet, but I visited the park yesterday and noticed that the new line queue for WWC was built with a covered portion like other areas that might have coaster track flying above. Anyone else notice and think that may be a hint that it could be coaster coming in there?It's been noticed, and good catch. However, it is covered in the areas where it is already very close to a coaster: Diamondback. Not saying it's impossible a different coaster may be going through there soon, but it's no proof either. And welcome to KIC! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondBanshee Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I thought HW was great today. Only problem I had was that one train voyage thing. However, after the second train was added, I walked on a couple more times. In fact, I got on the very last ride of the night on the voyage, in the front right seat, having the whole front car to myself . It felt like I was alone and was insane! Could GCI possibly make a coaster like The Voyage/if the can, would they? Also, Thunderbird is great as well. I hope B&M does more launched coasters as I thought the launch was great as it was sort of drawn out, pretty intense, and incredibly quiet. Thunderbird is much better than Gatekeeper in my opinion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayzayd13 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 In my opinion, most B&M Wing coasters are better than Gatekeeper. Records, does not "necessarily" mean better. Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaks76 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I rather like Gatekeeper. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I don't dislike Gatekeeper, but I don't absolutely love it, either. It's kinda...meh. It's like stuffing with Thanksgiving dinner. I don't love it, nor do I hate it, but it's just kind of...there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm0324 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I thought HW was great today. Only problem I had was that one train voyage thing. However, after the second train was added, I walked on a couple more times. In fact, I got on the very last ride of the night on the voyage, in the front right seat, having the whole front car to myself . It felt like I was alone and was insane! Could GCI possibly make a coaster like The Voyage/if the can, would they? Also, Thunderbird is great as well. I hope B&M does more launched coasters as I thought the launch was great as it was sort of drawn out, pretty intense, and incredibly quiet. Thunderbird is much better than Gatekeeper in my opinion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't think GCI would ever build something as massive as the Voyage. That's just not their style. But for the right money, who knows. They might. GCI tends to play it safe and do what they do best. GG will really push the boundaries and do insane things with their woodies. I mean look at Switchback and Hades...Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondBanshee Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 ^Sometimes experimenting is good. Look at B&M for example Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm0324 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 ^Sometimes experimenting is good. Look at B&M for example Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is true, but the most experimental thing GCI has ever done was use a steel support structure...Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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