RailRider Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Man the doom and gloom on this site is amazing, since opening day. The park has a slightly rough opening couple days and people start jumping off cliffs around here. Honestly, why would PKI remove FOF now? It is structuraly sound and is very reliable and popular. Equals a winning attraction. The park has plenty of room throughout the park to add new rides and coasers. The small footprint that FOF occupies is not needed for another attraction. Folks it just doesnt make sense. The following events will happen this seasson, mark my word. FOF will be removed along with Vortex, FaceOff, Delerium, TR:TR and SOB will remain SBNO this seasson. During the offseasson PKI will be sold to SixFlags wich will intern demolish the park, pave it, and open a super wallmart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIfan73 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I rode FOF yesterday. I had forgotten what a good ride that was. I heard a couple people get off it saying "that beats Space Mountain all to heck". I hated to see that the picture booth was closed. I expect a re-theme. I remember filling out a survey awhile back, and they seemed to be pushing an MTV theme pretty hard, if I remember...If FOF doesn't get a re-theme, it definitely needs some TLC. Its too bad PKI doesn't just keep up on the maintenance, as it would still be an interesting theme (same goes for TG...that used to be awesome...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 On the contrary, I think the theming on FoF has held up relatively well. Especially considering that it is ten years old this year. Its theming hasn`t deteriorated as much as on Top Gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 ^ Maybe causes the theming is inside? I love Flight of Fear and it one of the best rides ever made. If PKI took it out or even closed it I probaly wouldn't even go to PKI any more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RingMaster Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Man the doom and gloom on this site is amazing, since opening day. The park has a slightly rough opening couple days and people start jumping off cliffs around here. Honestly, why would PKI remove FOF now? It is structuraly sound and is very reliable and popular. Equals a winning attraction. The park has plenty of room throughout the park to add new rides and coasers. The small footprint that FOF occupies is not needed for another attraction. Folks it just doesnt make sense. The following events will happen this seasson, mark my word. FOF will be removed along with Vortex, FaceOff, Delerium, TR:TR and SOB will remain SBNO this seasson. During the offseasson PKI will be sold to SixFlags wich will intern demolish the park, pave it, and open a super wallmart. Will the super WalMart include a McDonald's and a Starbucks? And those elderly folk that always welcome you into the store (that's my favorite)? The park has plenty of room throughout the park to add new rides and coasers. The small footprint that FOF occupies is not needed for another attraction. That's what we said when the Antique Cars, King Cobra, Phantom Theater, and KCKC (I think that was the name of that water ride) were taken out. But, anyway, FOF is an awesome ride, and I wouldn't dare believe PKI to be that stupid to get rid of an attraction THAT popular. ....then again, there's still the rumor of either The Vortex or Top Gun leaving during the 2006 tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeLorean Rider Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Well in any case it does seem a bit strange that a great ride like FoF does not have its own box when the Train does. Im sure we all agreee that FoF deserves a VIP Box, but I wouldn't say its a "sign" from above or anything just yet. Especially after what Titanic said about frequent map changes. (Thank you BTW I wouldnt have believed it otherwise.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoor Man Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 since they took the "over the shoulder" restraints out... it is hands-down the best thrill coaster there! ... uh maybe right up there with The Beast. No, removing it doesn't make sense, but then again removing "Stealth" (one of the first "flying" coasters for a water park didn't either. couple of things. i agree with titanic from earlier. Think about baseball... the Reds, they have those programs printed in BULK and hand out thousands each season. Think of 2000 when they had 2.5 million fans at the park. PKI had 3 million, I know- but when trades were made, those programs were updated the next day. PKI probably prints so many of them that they can take their pick of a number of Printing companies that would jump at the chance to do a print job for them. without knowing for certain, they probably wait until a few days out from major changes to get them printed. Also- speaking of a coaster in trouble. Was in a conversation with some guys on the Great Wolf work site... now this is from some "non-director"-"no-decision-making" guys, so take it for what you will... just relaying what I heard. Top Gun is in trouble. they said prior to this year they were to be working jointly with the park to create a North Entrance to the Park for Lodge (& resort) guests to use. Their thought was that the Top Gun area had a great gathering place because essentially to return to the main part of the park you had to go under the cement tunnel (from the monorail days)... which would make a good entrance, plus the line que area made a good gathering area. The plans (as they said) were to remove the excess line maze for Son of Beast behind the tunnel and make that an entry point. They said that they oriignally wanted re-theme and move Top Gun to another area of the park but the problem that they were dealing with was that TG was created specifically for that spot with the geography, which would make it almost worthless to another park (almost even to PKI). In essesnce they speculated that as to why TG has not received any TLC for a few years... because the park is not sure what to do with it. And now with Paramount Parks up for sale, they have heard that the park has stalled plans for the North entrance for now until they see what ownership is going to do... I guess CBS does not want to ride the expense of moving and re-tracking, and re-theming a ride. Like I said... these are site guys that have no authority.. and probably heard the story themselves from 5 levels down. May not be remotely close to the story... but it at least seemed plausible to me. take it for what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Well keep in mind that before the 2005 park map, their was no "Signature Attractions" boxes on the park maps. They are merely pointing out some of the major attractions. They don`t have the room (or the need) to point out Flight of Fear. FoF pulls in enough people because of its popularity. On any given day, it has one of the longest lines in the park. Right up there with the lines for Drop Zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoor Man Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 just re-read my post... I'm sorry, my grammar is AWFUL! Need to proof read my crap before posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Elmer Fudd, I don`t buy those guys` story. The entrance to the park will be a short shuttle ride to the front gate. Plus, the resort guests would have a long hike even to get to this north entrance. Secondly, Top Gun is almost identical to The Vortex at Paramount Canada`s Wonderland. The Vortex at Wonderland actually opened in 1991, two years before PKIs. This means that PKI`s was not necessarily designed specifically for the site it sits on. Although, they probably located the ride their because it did fit the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoor Man Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I didn't say their story was laced with facts. the one guy said that when the weather broke in late Feb/March, he was to start working to develop a walkway to the park but recently found out that plans have changed (whatever that means). I didn't know whether to believe them or not either... but these weren't fat guys, leaning on shovels, eating a danish.... they were mid-40 fourman-types. They weren't talking secretively... just very "matter-of-factly." It doesn't matter to me either way.. indecision did seem to explain why a great coaster was missing numerous levels of TLC for the past 3 years. I just looked at pics of Vortex and TG... you're right; the footprints look very similar... but the topography of the land under TG is unique to that specific location and I don't think could be duplicated economically. But then again, I am not in the coaster, amusement, or engineering business. who knows... just passing along a conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoor Man Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 OK- FOF problems, TG problems, favorite rides getting removed, etc... This'll put that all into perspective, at least PKI is not suffering this fate: Astroland before: http://www.sixflagshouston.com/photos/Various-Park-Photos Astroland today: http://www.oldastroworld.com/album/index.html 7 months after the last coaster pulled into the station, the park went from lush trees, screaming patrons, and basic life to mud and rubble.... and not because of Hurricanes or earthquakes.... it was corporate decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMayChew Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 The Foremans talking could be or could have been a very plausable future for the park, but now with the plans changing, those plans have been postponed..... I guess we should all be gratefull and hope that P/KI will never turn into what is no w Astroland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Picard Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I don't think they would take out a ride and create a entrance for around a 1000 or less people a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I don't think they would take out a ride and create a entrance for around a 1000 or less people a day. Nor do I. Regardless of whether or not CBS has a 16 percent or so interest in Great Wolf Lodge. It doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoor Man Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 corporate decisions don't always make sense. ie- the Flyers..... if you look at their location, there was clearly room for it to remain where it was.... and PLENTY of room for it in other parts of the park (Flight Commander pad, for instance)... it was a Coney Island original and it got unceremoniously shipped out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Picard Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 corporate decisions don't always make sense. ie- the Flyers..... if you look at their location, there was clearly room for it to remain where it was.... and PLENTY of room for it in other parts of the park (Flight Commander pad, for instance)... it was a Coney Island original and it got unceremoniously shipped out. Room wasn't it, they wanted to move them to Carowinds. If they just sold them as scrap or placed them with KC then it would have not made sense. Letting KC set out there with scrap metal at 155 dollars a ton don't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I really think Flight of Fear will stay !!!! yep its not on the map but I do believe we get the year of the coaster next year!!! Big metal Coaster it may not have records but will be a thrill for this park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortexlover2 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Man the doom and gloom on this site is amazing, since opening day. The park has a slightly rough opening couple days and people start jumping off cliffs around here. Honestly, why would PKI remove FOF now? It is structuraly sound and is very reliable and popular. Equals a winning attraction. The park has plenty of room throughout the park to add new rides and coasers. The small footprint that FOF occupies is not needed for another attraction. Folks it just doesnt make sense. The following events will happen this seasson, mark my word. FOF will be removed along with Vortex, FaceOff, Delerium, TR:TR and SOB will remain SBNO this seasson. During the offseasson PKI will be sold to SixFlags wich will intern demolish the park, pave it, and open a super wallmart. six flags is in too much debt to buy the paramount parks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkGuy Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I for one wouldnt care if FOF was rethemed or what not...If PKI does remove FOF its for the best. Besides I go to the park twice a month it would be nice to see something with a great theme in that area.(Yeah the theme is what hooks me and gets me & my family in those park gates!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirium13 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 six flags is in too much debt to buy the paramount parks I believe he was being sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 ^ ^ ^ Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlopez Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 OMG... they better not take out FOF..its my favorite ride, plus i dont see why they would take it out, its not even that old and always has a long wait for it...its a popular ride. if they take it out i will be devistated. Kings Island smokin sumthin if they take it out. --jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Well, hard as it is to believe, Flight of Fear opened ten years ago this year! Although it was delayed and didn`t first open until June of 1996. And it was plagued with problems that first year. All the crowds that year would run back to Coney Mall to try and get the first rides of the day on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFlagsMasta Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 on reviewing the map, FOF still shows on the MAP. Would they really print it onto the map and then have it shut Mid Season? Imagine all the new maps they would have to print? i didn't read the other pages so sorry if this was already said.. but the park does put out new maps every few weeks (like.. new ones for fearfest and what not) so they could easily have that area of the map edited.. or throw a box over it that says "something exciting coming for 2007" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMayChew Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 yup its been already said lol...Still a question i have though.... They must print the maps by a template, can they just change the template over night for the new maps to be printed, if say FOF is shut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeLorean Rider Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 I'm sure you'd be surprised what they can and cant do. They did it for delerium when KC shut down, they did it for TRTR when KCKC shuth down mid season, they did it for SDATHC when PT shut down mid season, and If I'm not mistaken, they eventually did it for IJST when Tiques shut down mid season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discodude3737 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 ^Hmm..That's interesting, I never knew that they could do that. I always thought that they kept the same park map all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlopez Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Well, hard as it is to believe, Flight of Fear opened ten years ago this year! Although it was delayed and didn`t first open until June of 1996. And it was plagued with problems that first year. All the crowds that year would run back to Coney Mall to try and get the first rides of the day on it. Well, thats my point, its only 10 years old. Look at Vortex, its lasted, and Flight of Fear is a lot more popular than that. I just dont seem them taking it out. They are stupid if they do. --jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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