Gordon Bombay

The car "design" was unchanged from when it was The Beastie, same old PTC junior coaster cars with the buzz bars. They just repainted the outside panels of the cars.

Which is done every year. First by rides clean up crews right after the season ends then general maintenance items based on priority, budget, supplies etc.

*slaps head* I don't know how you could possibly know how well any of the rides are maintained when you never worked in operations or on any crew working to maintain a ride. Speaking as someone who has from both of those perspectives, the rides at Kings Island are very well maintained.

-Because, if you had been following the acquisition of the Parmount Parks by Cedar Fair then you would know that Kinzel and company were/are considering expanding the Nick branded licensing to other parks and debating if they will renew licensing agreements to keep Nick in the former Paramount parks. The results of those licensing negotiations have not been confirmed yet which is what makes the camp snoopy announcement interesting. Nowhere did Uncle Henry say he believes Cedar Fair to be ignorant. But that's kids in our demographic. Not today's kids. Personally, if I saw Rocko from Rocko's Modern Life walking around right now, I'd wonder how they got that costume, because he's virtually extinct. That's probably where a lot of today's shows will be in 5 years. CP has a lasting name in Snoopy, and even though you don't see him all over the TV, that makes Cedar Point stand out. A child might like the cute dog they see all over the park, and the only place to see it is at Cedar Point. I think it's a smart decision, personally. I wasn't saying Nick is a better choice because I remember it, I was stating that he doesn't find Nick appealing because he didn't grow up with it, just as I don't find newer Disney stuff appealing cause it's not what I'm growing up with. The point was that its what the kids are watching is what seems like it may be best. Today's shows may be forgotten in 5 years but the marketing potential of the current demographic is pretty strong.

Not to mention most of it will probably reused kids rides from Geauga Lake. You can't, but then again you didn't grow up watching Nickelodeon as a kid. I grew up on that stuff in the 90's. On Facebook there are countless groups devoted to people in my age group reliving memories about their favorite Nickelodeon shows. Disney stays timeless because they constantly re-invent their product and re-introduce it to the market. Where as HB... just kind of went by wayside.

You have to be kidding? Don't they know the value of Nick? -I'm positive they do, hence why they're not paying to expand it into their other parks, it probably wouldn't be a very financially sound decision for Cedar Fair at this time. -They should. Not saying Peanuts is worthless, but Nick is definitely the better choice.....look at Mall of America. Once managed by Cedar Fair whom used their Peanuts licensing they have decided not to re-new their contract with Cedar Fair and have now opened......Nickelodeon Universe. -Thats nice to think, but that may not have happened. It depends on how much earlier they would have had to buy the parks. The parks were rumored to go on sale at the end of the 2004 season and in early 2005 Viacom announced they were not interested in selling the parks then they split into two separate companies and eventually CBS sold the parks. I'm not sure how long the HB licensing agreements were for but I doubt Viacom/CBS renewed them in favoring of converting the kids areas to Nickelodeon.

Nope, just means your opinions not worth as much when it comes to the subject. Paramount didn't kill KI, they did many good things for the park and it made it one of the best known in the world/nation. The original owners did too, who was the best is up for debate. A debate which someone like browntggr would know more about considering he experienced both.

The Fort Kinzel sign is not being removed.

actually the file name is "sonofbeast.jpg" its a .jpg extension file. What you could do is right click it, save it to your computer then upload it via the upload buttong. If you're trying to do it by link you don't use the tags like you do in an html post out here on the boards, you just insert the link. To get the link right click the image and click "copy image source" is what I think it is for windows. On my mac it's "copy image address". Then go to your avatar options and in the box where it says "enter URL" put this link there... http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb246/a.../sonofbeast.jpg Then click upload, that should work.

What is the photo you are trying to upload and what kind of file extension is it? .jpg .gif .bmp?

Is it giving you an error message? If so, what message?

Yeah but who planned the flights and booked the tickets? lol.

lol don't you mean your parents are?

Where do they advertise their trash can designs at?

Good eye emobeaver, those vending machines are typically under one of the huts there and stocked during the winter. Wonder why they were disconnected, moved, and facing the other way.

Ryan, why didn't you tell me you were going up to the park? I would've skipped out on school early like I did last year about this time when you guys were up there shooting Firehawk construction.

I don't know for a fact, but this previous summer like KiBeast I noticed the cycle was a bit longer on maXair, either that or it takes their ride longer to reach the home position.

^That was the first thing I thought of when I first saw this video. Man, that was a great tv show... Ha, thanks Kawana!

I'm sorry that to you my comment came off as a little unprofessional, however the only reason the matter wasn't adressed in private is because he has ignored the majority of requests I have sent to him through private message. His behavior and random, content less posting has been agrivating to other users (as shown by their responses earlier in the topic). One word responses and posts that feature no content are ruled against in the site's Terms of Service agreement which you agree to when joining this site. Under the guidelines of the third rule down... His reply to pkifreakhog was not needed and misleading. PKIfreakhog had an honest question, with JacksonPKI's response he gave no basis as to why PKIfreakhog should believe they weren't having it. Had he given some reason to back up his statement, sure that would be fine, however he gave no basis and his history has shown that he wouldn't have any information on the subject. No reason to guess at the answer to question then give no basis for why you're guessing. I feel that I have a good relationship with the majority of the members here on KICentral and I certainly appreciate any content and conversation the members bring to the table. My job is to enforce the terms of service. Yes there are other KI related sites out there, and your more than welcome to hang there as well as continuing to be a valued member of KICental. However no one brings you as much exclusive content as KIC or gets you closer to KI. Not to mention the renowned forums community to which I am glad to say I belong to.

Why is that? Who do you know in ACE or at the park to give that kind of information? The original poster was asking a question, and you're doing nothing to help him, just taking a guess and potentially mislead him. Once again, I remind you, if you're going to post something, make it worthwhile. If you don't think KI is going to have the event then please say why that way you're not giving out any false information. Thats pretty rude to the original poster who is looking for an answer to his question, if you really know the answer or think you have some reasoning behind your statement, then please post it and don't waste the original posters time.

I think those colors would look great in Rivertown.

Why didn't arrow think of that? Well, remember this. Ron Toomer was a lazy designer. It's obvious in the horrid transitions that most arrows have. Not to mention, he basically bent a coat hanger and said wow, I designed a loop. Lazy designer? Like you could do any better?... In reguards to the transistions, The newest multi-looper from Arrow is Tennessee Tornado and that opened up in 99! So if they are rough now, how well they are maintained has alot to do with it. And don't even get me started on the technological breakthroughs that have occured in the past 20 years in terms of train design, maintenance techniques, steel fabrication, and the overall coaster design process....Oh and if you honestly believe he designed customers rides from coat hangers then you are an idiot. Please quote me where I said I could do better. Too bad the best Arrow looper had nothing to do with Toomer. Look, I rode Vortex in its' heyday and rode it last year. It's just as bumpy as ever and I would say that KI does a stellar job of maintaining that coaster. I did some reading about Toomer's desgins and it has been greatly debated before. Yes, many of his coasters still grace many amusement parks to this day. I just can't remember exactly where I read it and the writer made a lot of sense about many things that could have been done, even back before computers, that would have made his coasters a lot smoother. Maybe you never claimed you could do better, but if you don't have the expertise to question his methods and designs then don't call him lazy. The man made a good living designing great rides, some sucked, but a lot of them were great. Like Boddah pointed out; Magnum XL. If you don't have an experience in his field or knowledge about it then don't go criticizing him, I'm sure Ron Toomer wouldn't go on some other message boards and say "KIBeast is a lazy (whatever KIBeast does)

Yeah, I believe due to health problems. He is still alive today.

^Tennesse Tornado at Dollywood is the only Mega Looper not designed by Ron Toomer. Why didn't arrow think of that? Well, remember this. Ron Toomer was a lazy designer. It's obvious in the horrid transitions that most arrows have. Not to mention, he basically bent a coat hanger and said wow, I designed a loop. With all due respect KIBeast, but what made Ron Toomer a lazy designer? I don't really see how anyone on these boards could have done better. For the time the mega loopers were coming; they were technological break throughs, done by hand, without the aid of computers. Some Arrow's have rough transitions sure, but before there were computers ride makers like B&M and Intamin were building their early rollercoasters which were not always stellar to say the least. Toomer developed and perfected an early product that became instantly popular at amusement parks throughout the world and many of his coasters are still popular today. The whole coat hanger thing comes from a video where he is discussing with a group of engineers various new concepts Arrow want's to pursue and he folds the coat hanger to give a rough visual idea of what he's thinking. When it came down to actual drafting and design the man was a renowned, college educated engineer. He didn't actually use a coat hanger to design the rides.

I don't think a new film is neccesary, especially when only on the weekends does the ride really get a line to where you have to watch it. It goes with the story well.