Outdoor Man

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i knew the community of this board wouldn't fail me. I told our group that I knew "exactly" where to find what we were looking for.

actually you can get historically archived pages from the internet from as far back as 1996. I can't remember the website- i always access it from going to Google and typing "internet archive." Whatever Surf Cincinnati's website was likely has been archived.

uh... website address, not physical address. We already had that.

come on- surely someone knows this....

definitely the elevators on the Eiffel Tower. i mean, really- what kind of thrill are you going to get out of a elevator moving that slow.

I am participating in a group performing a feasibility study on a 20 acre tract along north I-275, more commonly known as the former Surf Cincinnati Waterpark. Does anyone know what Surf Cincinnati's old website address was?

SOB was a terrible design. It's nothing but height and circles. In the day and age of Roller Coaster Tycoon they should have had a contest with 5th graders and came up with a kick-butt design. Heck, with the most recent versions you can tell what will cause the patrons to black-out and vomet.... I tend to agree with WooferAtl that removing the loop was just the beginning of the removal process.. but I think CF has pitched too much into it at this stage to turn it to firewood for a bit yet.

what is the roster of bands this year?

I say ditch the "international" facades on the buildings since they haven't followed an "international" theme in years. Then theme the street to the music being played- whatever that is.... on a side note- am glad to see the characters working atop the Festhaus again.

for some of these attractions they KNOW are going to have 4+ hour waits- they should outfit the lines with RESTROOMS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hot day at the park, beverage after beverage... I can't go much past 2 hours without a pit stop.

now in the landscaping defense... take the trees on International Street, for instance. It doesn't look as good as it did in the 80's because these trees are some 25 years older. After some years they tend to look "overgrown" and maybe they are. Some day they'll become too large and will need to be removed and smaller/younger trees will be planted. Home landscaping is the same. That job you pay thousands for in year 1 tend to look shabby come year #5.

my wife and I went yesterday... and I was VERY entertained at some guests. btw, what was the deal with all the face paint yesterday anyway? I was entertained by all the boyfriend / girlfriend combinations where routinely the guy had a set of iPod earphones in while the girlfriend talked on her cell phone. NOW, that's a DATE...... And I got to see all the new "vogue" piercings. There are a lot of gentlemen that better hope that Starbucks is hiring professions- because not too many professional environments dig those earrings that enlarge the hole. all in all, an entertaining day.... though I didn't get to witness much of what was discussed above, though it was much more packed than we were expecting.

someone may have asked- i didn't see it, but what is going to happen with "Tower Gardens/Paramount Story"??? and debating which fighter jets are the "correct" ones for TG.... oh my- I think we all need more challenging jobs to take up more of our time.

I was a bit suprised to see that CF did not do any painting to TG. It has been a few years since that twisted steel has seen any TLC. I would be willing to be that a re-theme is in the works though. I'd be willing to bet that the Top Gun theme (or at least name) will go away in time for opening day 2008. Moving the coaster elsewhere really isn't an option because it was manufactured to fit that specific terrain. I like the idea of a re-theme to "The Bat." get all the old theming gear out... and it is in the woods, so the area works too. Or go with the original "Thunder Road".... not sure I can visualize the theming there. The whole "downtonw KI" idea is intriguing. But my thought is that Kings Island is not enough of a "vacation destination" to support such an investment.

and I hope this doesn't sound off.... but once a place serves chinese food, it is next to impossible to get the smell out. I agree with the thought of "why is a chinese place going in an Oktoberfest area?" Why don't they just turn it into a food court? That poor place used to be so much more than it has become. Was hoping that CF would return some of the good shows that used to be there. I remember back in the late 80's.. the shows there were a pretty big deal. One show, I think called "Fire and Ice" had national recognition. And some of the Christmas shows were absolute professional quality.

my $.02... For the most part I think you're correct. Most of the KIC posters are anti-Paramount. In my own unqualified opinion Paramount was a good owner from the thrill standpoint. If you look at the world-class rides that were added on their watch you can't refute what they did for nation-wide recognition of the park. - Flight of Fear- record holder when opened - Drop Zone- first rotating drop in the midwest - Son of Beast- terrible coaster, but a record holder nonetheless. - Delerium - Tomb Raider, the Ride - Nick Universe - Fearfest - Winterfest etc... Partially, their mistakes were- thinking that they could replicate the "hollywood" success pioneered by Disney and Universal.... they blurred lines, or just flat out ignored the theme areas of the park... and allowed areas of the park to go into disrepair and lack of use (see Flight Commander pad). I think all would agree that the Paramount years will mostly be remembered as positive days for the park. The positives outnumber the negatives. KI was kept in pace as a premier national thrill park- and they occassionally listened to the public... even when it didn't always benefit them.

Chinese food in a "German" themed building............. Okay.

well, pkridemaint.... you have become an instant favorite and "cult icon" for this site. I don't know whether to say "Congratulations" or "Good Luck."

when you're done sawing papa beast down let me know. We have a new fire pit in our back yard and need some "dried" fire wood. probably wrong thread for this, but is Paramount Theater still going to be called Paramount Theater?

Hauntguy... sometimes it doesn't matter what proof you have. Last summer I had a letter from the park and a refund "IN HAND" about the cancellation of Winterfest... and repeatedly the posts said, "NO OFFICIAL WORD HAS BEEN SAID".... "let's wait and see."..... "You don't know what you're talking about..." If you're wondering about the park maps.... if you're so worried that it's fake, go to GWL find the Borchure shelf. These park maps are not printed the night before opening day. They're printed many weeks in advance, and you know what there is a staff of about 400 or so at the printing company that have not necessarily been sworn to secrecy.... besides, nothing contained is a secret. Everyone KNOWS that Firehawk is coming- not only that, but where it is. And everyone KNOWS that SOB is loopless. So, given that- who cares if it's rela or a fake. There's nothing top secret or ground breaking displayed in it. I can't believe this thread has lasted this long.

these brochures are already in the "brochure" shelves at GWL. Have been for at least 2 weeks or so. I'm interested in the Winterfest info though. A person I have talked to did say that there are no plans at all for a 2007 event (because there may be some "cosmetic" makeovers coming to the park in the upcoming 12 months) but that the prospect of a future Winterfest beyond 2007 has not bee ruled out entirely.

if you win the lottery I'll give you a dollar (one hundred cents), US Currency, if you actually paid money to a "for profit" company to improve "their" ride.

agreed with Tuskin.... too many curves, not enough straight runs. That ALONE would have made the ride smoother.

it would never happen but how about a dip underground...