Outdoor Man

I personally think that CF parks should remask the children's areas as: "Itchy and Scratchy Land" - the violentest place on earth. Those are role models that parents can be proud of.

what is a "toung"???

Took wife and daughter to KI tonight, and I must say from the parking lot it looked pretty full. I was surprised at how "not full" it was. tonight was the first time my daughter went totally nuts for the park. She turned 2 just days ago and from the time she saw the tower, she was in rare form. Usually when we have taken her to the park, it was the train ride, the helicopters, and both merry-go-rounds. tonight she went ballistic over all sorts of new NU rides to add to her roster. We even tried to take her to the ice show... but had to leave early- great show, but some of the music was a bit "dark" for her... thank goodness we tried that- because of how well she did on the other rides, we thought it was time for SDATHM.... thank goodness- that would not have been pretty. then to cap off the night, she got to see her favorite, "boom-booms" (fireworks to the lay person). On some of these forums I like to throw in sarcastic remarks and the occassional point to an argument I don't for a second believe- but in all seriousness those of you who work at the park or love the park.... need to see it from the eyes of a parent watching their little one thoroughly enjoy the park. To my little girl it makes no difference if it is KECO, Paramount, Cedar Fair, CBS, whatever- what matters to me is the 15 or so employees we came into contact with.... or more accurately my daughter came into contact with. EVERYONE in the NU part of the park were OUTSTANDING!!!! this was the first time that my wife and I have had to sit helplessly on the sidelines and watch someone care for the safety of our child. the park employees we observed tonight were professionals and really put us at ease to the point where we just enjoyed the show of our daughter having the day of her life! It is instances like those that have us hooked and assured that we will return again sometime in the near future. Thank you KI staff, you made our little girls night- and in the process made ours!

Seems like that was an outstanding event for KI. Kudos. Good publicity- sounds like it was a fun day. Myself, I enjoyed the AC yesterday. For the Hannity show... was Alan Combes there or just Sean?

nothing that some gas and a match wouldn't fix....

Actually DVO- you would be surprised to know that the number of people who stay at GWL to go to KI is actually in the minority. Believe it or not, CF actually views GWL as competition to their product and has only grudgingly adhered to many of the agreements and handshakes that Paramount put in place- including a park that would have a GWL entrance as well as be open April-November and December. GWL is looking to be their own destination, and though KI is a perk for location, anyone who has been there would agree that KI and GWL cater to two different wants. I don't work for GWL but can say from professional acquaintance that the partnership as the "official" resort of KI was supposed to be a little stronger than it is. I know from my dealings with KI in various capacities is that the management turnover has not helped them beyond their parking lot. We used to work with a very professional and "seasoned" staff. Most of the people we deal with now are polite, but less than professional, near college age, and have less than a year or two experience and don't quite understand how business "works" yet. It kind of reminds me of the perennial "rebuilding" of the Reds. Turnover the experience, reduce the payroll, and let the inexpereince build... and in a few years we'll have a solid team. I hope it happens.

two years ago when I said that SOB's design was awful and even hinted at it's removal I was almost "boo'd" out of the stadium. SOB fans are lucky that CF has a penchant for record breaking costers or I'm betting pieces of SOB would be laying around campfires by now..... still could happen.

not defending the "acts" of some churches... but there is a HUGE misconception that churches are ONLY there to help those in need or charity. That misconception is why millions that otherwise would not have darkened the doorstep on September 10, 2001 flocked to the seats on September 12.... and forgot why they came by January 1, 2002.

it did, but I think since CF- its in the land of "used to exist." It was a great deal for non-profit organizations.... and KI for that matter. Fund raising money plus tickets to go back... taxable donations for KI and PR/goodwill. A day was an 8-hour shift. There may have been exceptions but my experience as a 30-something was usually pretty decent, and I think the 15 year old supervisors enjoyed bossing those of us twice their age around. By and large the experience was positive- but you got to see some gaps in the management style of the park at the time... ie- supervisors more interested in being a "cool" boss than actually managing them. usually before school let out, and after school started back they had insane deals for volunteers. One year, we worked an 8-hour shift, our charity received $6/hr per person working..... and we each received 5 tickets to return..... one summer my wife and I had 36 tickets to go back.

this is interesting.... click the link to the story. there are several "banner" advertisements. maybe 5 different companies. One is for "Monster" .com and another is for an "accident" attorney. how's that for coincidence.

Actually Boddha, Noah has a Kings Island connection. He made a cameo appearance in the commercial advertising the arrival of Amazon (Congo) Falls...... years ago.

Undertaker... I'm sorry to see that your "gig" with the WWE hasn't worked out and you have to "job" FearFest. Don't hurt anybody.

no, my understanding is that the "buddy" would be in the hotel room nightstand drawer next to the "Gideons."

hotel and conference center would be developed by another entity. otherwise it could have been the second coming of "Jim and Tammy"

I agree, but they are definitely not on the "white horse" they were on a year ago.

I'm going back a few pages, but wanted to respond to something that was written yesterday regarding what this individual may have wrote to KI, and it not being "professional"- I work in marketing/PR... and to an extent the "complaint" department... and whats more, it's in the financial industry. I have been called 4 and 5 letter names over a matter of less than a dollar when the customer was clearly in the wrong... and I had nothing in the transaction. Regardless of the situation or how intense the conversation- you ALWAYS take the apologetic route on your way to your explanation. If the customer clearly does not want to hear it, then you can turn off the valve. But in conflict resolution, "tephlon" doesn't work. But more closer to a few posts recently. It has seemed a bit surreal how a year ago Cedar Fair was riding in on a white horse.... and to read a few posts you'd think they'd sunk lower than Paramount in a year.

who knows, maybe he was after free tickets.... But the response to him did not include any mention of "we apologize"- "we're sorry"- "unfortunately things happen that are out of our control."

UncleHenry... I "get" where you are coming from, and to an extent I agree. What I don't agree with with KI's response that gave a "not our problem" feel to it. Did not extend any reconciliatory response at all. Apologizing and offering even half-off admission for another day would have cost the park "nothing" and would have got 4 more people in to pay $$$'s for food and other attractions.

I agree with Captain Picard... probably a good percentage of the defenders in this thread are pass holders who if they paid for thier own pass- don't have mortgages to pay for. I would be genuinely upset if I had shelled out $500 for a day of "fun" and got nothing but basically a "not our problem" response. Unless the customer CLEARLY is totally off-base that response should hurt the credibility of the one whose signature is affixed to it. The official (can't remember the name) even acknowledged the problems... and yes they were fixed.... but there was a pretty impressive list of ride (major ones) that experienced problems... and who is to say that this guy didn't experience the "perfect storm" of the events happening to his family in succession. Apparently he came when SOB was still down- so I would remove that from the complaint... it was pretty common knowlege that SOB was out and had no specific return date. That was a terrible response on KI's part.

walking on past.

been there, done that.

and Woofer... if I am not mistaken, the Festhaus is near-exact to a simlar building at Busch Gardens Williamsburg... or Europe (whatever they are calling it).

You know, you scope out a thread and you think to yourself... "that looks interesting, I think I'll peak in and take a look." Then you get in there, read and think "that's interesting." "I agree with that"- "that seems correct" - "I can't believe they said that...." Then you think to yourself, "ah, maybe it's best that I just walk on by." that should be my course of action; but before I leave let me leave just a thought. And I am not even going to get into which side of the fence I reside; and I do apologize for this being WAY off topic, but please take this for what it is... just one person's opinion: I have been in "ministry" for longer than some on this site have been alive... (please note I did say "some")- and I have seen this topic (and others) debated, and won/lost based on a person's interpretation of ONE verse. And most times that person cannot tell you what the verse before it or after it says. I would like to caution anyone who would use the Bible as your argument for or against this (or any other "moral" topic). To understand what many of the verses contained within the Bible mean for us today, you have to understand what it meant for the people it was originally written for. You think this topic is hotly debated, try opening up a topic on Revelation.. that'll raise some hairs and split a few churches. The bible is NOT a collection of verses like a fortune cookie. Let's take Sodom and Gomorrah. was this story just about homosexuality in the cities... no. without getting into specifics, Genesis 18 says their "sin" was "grievous." you know what, no one is going to read this anyway, so I'm going to stop... point being. If you're going to use the Bible as your justification/defense, base it on the story; the whole story- and not just a position backed up by one or a few verses. I've been around this argument 100+ times and I've seen a few good arguments, and a lot of WEAK. I don't think that Dane and Ryan intended for this site to be a morality borometer; it's a fan site where reality can be escaped for a few moments at a time without having to think about what this person's opinion of your life is.... the only opinions that matter on this site are "what do you think about KI?????"

not sure how/why anyone would ever want to wear pumps. Those look like the most uncomfortable clothing item a lady would have to wear.... maybe not. And for a guy to voluntarily wear something like that..... yea, something's wrong in the head

gay, straight, or whatever- any full-bearded man that puts a dress on... with pumps, and is serious about it... i feel has blown a few circuits in his bionic implants. ALTHOUGH, I did go to a county fair when I was young and saw the bearded lady.... i think she was in a dress.