homestar92

I don't remember any fatalities on any Intamin coasters do you? Their coasters aren't made by people like the Dinn Corporation who lots of wood riders used to think had a flawless safety record until that awful Texas Giant incident. I think we're forgetting that we would have quite possibly had SEVERAL fatalities on an Intamin ride VERY recently if some heroic park guests hadn't jumped the fence to flip the overturned boat on Shoot the Rapids a couple weeks ago. #BoatsTooSmall

Since the website has made us question this even further... If it were accurate, could it technically be some sort of weird reverse-psychology based red herring?

Take the dummy website. Replace every instance of "wing" with "inverted" Almost everything it says is still plausible. Seems to me like a good way to test your page without revealing anything. I think the Wing coaster was used BECAUSE of what Dennis Spiegel (is that his name?) theorized in the news report. Since that report, the GP expects a wing coaster. Reinforcing their incorrect assumption would be a good way to surprise them even more than they would already have been. Cedar Fair isn't dumb. They wouldn't leak the website three days early twice.

Other than the footers... we have no evidence of anything. So if you use the only evidence we have, its an invert. I can see what youre saying but you could also consider Dons tweets as evidence as he is our only source of 100% true information. Im not convinced his hints are hinting at what we are focused on though. Just trying to connect the dots Part of Don's job is to throw us red herrings to make sure that nobody feels 100% for sure that they know what it is on the announcement day. You want my opinion? Had those blueprints never gotten out, I really, truly don't think that Bat page would have even been made. I think its sole purpose was to make us doubt, since on this board, many people were feeling very sure it would be an invert named Banshee. I still believe it will be an invert named Banshee.

I think it's safe to say no matter WHAT it turns out to be. How many theme parks have fan forums that explode with their PR director's every word?

That's Gatekeeper! Boy, it's cOLD in here, isn't it? Sorry, that was said a few pages ago, I was referring more to the numerical stats.

I think pretty accurate. the only difference is that i think it will be 200 plus feet. why only go 199' if you can go one more foot and be the first inverted hyper coaster? Because if there are inversions, it isn't a hypercoaster.

Direct your attention to this photo that was posted earlier: If we do not get a wing coaster, what do you think the odds are that these height, speed, and inversion statistics are correct for what we DO get?

Perhaps this was a means to stir the pot and AVOID a Gatekeeper-like fiasco. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that we're getting an Invert named Banshee that follows the infamous blueprints. Maybe Don feared we had settled too comfortably on the correct (by the assumptions made in this scenario) identity of the ride, and so, to hype it up more and AVOID what CP had happen last year, he threw a curveball so that we'd be more encouraged to come to the announcement Thursday. By that logic, throwing together a logo and (very) simple dummy webpage actually seems like a VERY good use of his/someone in the PR department's time. Well played, Don. Well played indeed.

Three months ago, I would have doubted VERY much that it was a nod to us. With recent trends in Don's behavior, I'd say it's quite possible that he's trying to stir the metaphorical KICentral pot. He's probably sitting at home, popcorn in hand, refreshing this thread every couple of minutes for sheer entertainment.

I think all these DIVErsions are just more hints that we're getting a Dive Machine. Homestar92, heading for the door...

I can imagine the preparations for this announcement have made this week simultaneously one of the best and one of the worst Don has ever worked.

On the subject of similarly-named coasters being a trademark violation, explain this: http://rcdb.com/69.htm http://rcdb.com/121.htm Both are operating. I've ridden both within the last couple weeks.

I seriously doubt anyone has any serious doubt (lol) but Don has basically, through lack of words, admitted that this is a coaster. Note this conversation: https://twitter.com/KingsIslandPR/status/364491277024239616 He did not use the word "attraction" when asked about "the new coaster". I think anyone with eyes can see that it is a coaster, but does this constitute an admission?

Oh lord, I'm so far behind... But at any rate, isn't the 27th the first Sunday after the first Saturday of the season? It couldn't POSSIBLY open to the public that day, as CinFin has their buyout that day every year.

The announcement will be after close, so in Theory, nobody should be walking to any rides.

Do any B&M Inverts have a zero-car? Someone else had said it would be cool if we had themed trains like Gatekeeper, but I'm pretty sure no B&M invert that I know of has a zero-car. Perhaps there's a first time for everything. Or we could just see themed wheel guards like on Afterburn.

There are bunches! You can see many of their trademarks here: http://www.trademarkia.com/company-cedar-fair-lp-222594-page-1-2 The Fastpay one intrigues me. Could we be seeing something like Holicash at Cedar Fair parks in the future? Edit: Apparently Dorney Park is already test marketing this. Interesting. I doubt I'd use it, but more available amenities can never be bad.

OK guys, so I overlaid the blueprint on Google Earth and drew out the path with the ruler. With a totally flat path, we're looking at around 2,560 feet. So we know that this coaster is NO LESS than that. I'm going to assume about 15-20% beyond that (For my calculation, I'm using 18%) would put us in the realm of our actual length. And so, we have a ride on our hands with a length somewhere around 3,000 feet. Give or take. This is extremely non-precise speculation with a heaping helping of guesstimation. Again, this all assumes the blueprints are legit, which I personally believe they are.

On a different sort of note, just for fun, I drew a path following Vortex's track with the Google Earth ruler. it came out to 3264.21 feet (assumming a flat path with no elevation changes). Vortex's actual length is 3,800 feet. So the difference is roughly 15-16%. We could use similar numbers and the scale of the blueprint, and we could probably calculate a rough range for the coaster's length. Anyone with the proper know-how want to take a stab at it?

Because if you look approximately 400 yards to the southeast, you'll see that we already have a flyer... And we do not have a full-circuit Invert, at least not a major one outside of Planet Snoopy with high speeds and inversions.

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3tr1ov/ Hey! Ed Alonzo is great and all. BUT CAN HE FLIP YOU UPSIDE-DOWN 6 TIMES? NO HE CAN NOT!

Hate to double-post (I'm sure somebody else will post by the time I finish typing anyway...) but the Z shapes are loops. think about how a loop would look if you were perfectly above it, and it'll start to make more sense.

As has been pointed out by YoungStud many, many times, the blueprints had a part number for an invert. If you are accepting them as valid, then you HAVE to accept that this is an invert. Only if the blueprints are fake can it be a dive coaster. Or ANYTHING that isn't a B&M Invert.

A world breaking coaster.Oh my, I knew some people didn't like Vortex, but I had no idea that it could... wow. What? Vortex was the tallest full circuit in the world and the first with 6 inversions. You may know this. Not sure what you were saying Emphasis on "World breaking" Had the word "record" been placed in between them, the meaning of the sentence would be entirely different