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No, I haven't. That's why I played it safe by saying that it seems better instead of saying that it is, lol. I am disappointed to hear that the airtime hill lacks airtime. It probably wouldn't do much more for me than Dragster did. Which was honestly not too much. Dragster was very, very FUN. But I found that there are other rides at Cedar Point and other parks that are much more fun. I think Dragster is the very definition of FUN, at least the way FUN was defined under Kinzel. I think Ouimet's idea of FUN is different, and better.

That last helix looks insane. The final helix was my favorite part of Raptor, and it will undoubtedly be my favorite with this one. I also really like how all of the inversions are tastefully done and don't at all seem forced. That last in-line twist will be very, very interesting. It is decently slow enough to give you that "whoa!" feeling, but not annoyingly slow like Gatekeeper's first inversion. I do believe this will be a nice, forceful B&M.

Actually in the case of both, I think the ride experience trumps any records. The first time I rode Top Thrill, I came off trembling. I'd never done that on any other coaster. The launch is unbelievably powerful, and impressive.Kingda Ka is bigger. According to you, I'd guess, the record would make it better. As much as I love Great Advencha and Ka, TTD's launch is far more impressive. And at CP, Millennium Force still draws longer lines than TTD on a typical Saturday. At Great Advencha, Nitro and El Toro both draw more on a typical Saturday. Records schmecords. The ride experience trumps records. I never said that I would like it better due to records. But records and statistics are undeniably marketable, and to most people in the general public, matter a lot. Go to someone who isn't an enthusiast and tell them that Banshee has a Zero-g roll. Then tell them it holds the record for longest inverted roller coaster. I have a good idea which one of those they'll remember. If records mattered to me, Magnum wouldn't be my all-time favorite steel coaster when there are two coasters that have much more impressive statistics at the same park. Now, for what it's worth, Ka does seem better than TTD, but because it has a nice airtime hill after the top hat, not because it's (slightly) taller and faster. I will again add emphasis that I'm NOT saying that I think records matter for me. Banshee is the coaster of my dreams, and I will enjoy it either way. But I don't think it's going to draw people from Northern Ohio to KI, because on paper, it doesn't look that much more impressive than Raptor to a non-enthusiast.

The trains have Arrow chassis, and the brake run, station, and lift hill are Arrow. Which means all moving parts are Arrow. So in theory, for maintenance purposes, I would assume it is treated as an Arrow. Being that it isn't in Ohio, it isn't nearly as relevant as it would be here anyway.

Nothing. And when I went to Cedar Point, I only waited about a third as long as I did for Dragster. And Dragster has a higher (theoretical) capacity.

OK, fine. Replace TTD with Kingda Ka in my statement. I kinda think it still stands. And either way, TTD and Kingda Ka have impressive statistics, and, at least in my opinion, nothing else.

While I agree personally, I don't think the General Public feels that way. If that were true in most people's minds, TTD would NOT have hour plus waits on weekdays.

I do agree that I wish it broke more records, not because I think it would make the experience any better, but I just don't think a lot of people will give it a chance because all the General Public typically sees is statistics. I've heard a LOT of people say Banshee looks like a Raptor ripoff. I've ridden Raptor, and I think Banshee looks MUCH better. Heck, Afterburn is currently my number 3 favorite steel coaster, and I think Banshee will top it. Banshee MAY even top out Vortex in my list, but let's not get carried away too soon.

Today I was watching the animated Banshee rendering on Youtube and someone commented "Wow, why does it look all animated". I guess "Coming April 2014" doesn't tell them anything useful?

While we're on the topic of the Bavarian Beetle, did anyone notice that it, along with Ghoster Coaster, are the only defunct KI coasters that didn't get any love in the Banshee teaser?

Yes, it was I who was complaining about work, and it was also I who enjoyed some light reading during our night ride on Beast.

One more comment, and I swear I'll slow down my posting (sorry about that, by the way, it's just that a unique color scheme on a non-cookie cutter B&M Invert with no MCBR has me totally fanboying). This ride just plain looks fun. No denying that. But it definitely doesn't look FUN, and that is a very, very good thing. With rides like Gold Striker and Banshee, methinks the definition of FUN is a-changin' in the best way possible.

Cedar Point posted on their official Twitter that they are working on the restraints to make them more enjoyable. I would imagine that any modifications made would become the standard design of that restraint style. And I'm sure Banshee's trains will be one of the last pieces to be made, so if changes occur, we'll most likely be getting them in our coaster too. EDIT: O'Terpy. You beat me again.

I enjoyed the PR behind this announcement more than I'll probably enjoy the coaster. Which is saying a lot, because this is literally the coaster of my dreams. I could not possibly imagine something that caters more to the things I love in a coaster. Literally the ONLY thing that would make it better would be black supports instead of blue. But that is so miniscule that it doesn't even really deserve to be said. But Don and the team deserve MAJOR props for this. The marketing was executed to PERFECTION, and I think the swarm of people in the On Location shop last night is proof of that. The only thing I DON'T like about the announcement is how ungrateful the general public is. Am I the ONLY person who thinks WindSeeker and Dinosaurs Alive are fantastic additions to our park? If nothing else, they got us a makeover of Coney Mall, which is my favorite section of the park.

Oh, there'll be long lines. You can rest assured of that. However, in typical B&M fashion, they'll move quickly if given a team of skilled, hard-working operators.

I feel the same way. Hence, why I thought "Wheeee! Twisty!" was funny. When you hate a person's guts, there's little that is more enjoyable than seeing them humiliate themselves in front of thousands of viewers.

I can't wait for Theme Park Review to make a POV when it opens. I can't help but wonder what Robb Alvey's commentary will be like. I hope we can top "Wheeee! Twisty!"

"In my opinion"In your opinion what lol "In my opinion" is what "IMO" stands for.

"In my opinion"

How in the world would that work? They could call it "Hangman, the Ride"

No way it's 45 degrees. Lift hills on B&M inverts are usually around 30.

^That's what "Other" is for.

Where does it refer to it. Can you provide something more that it has the abbreviation for an inverted coaster along with a bunch of random other numbers. And we don't know 100% that that track is for us(even though i think it is, with the matching numbers) If you looked at a single Diamondback support, you would have no idea what it would go to. We are all just presuming it is an invert. Hate double posting, but there is one proper response to this. If you looked at a single piece of track for Diamondback, you COULD tell that it is not for an Invert or a flyer. The crossties are different. Edit: Just realized you said "support" not "track". Carry on then...

I'm going to add something here, off topic, but it needs to be said. There have been Intamin fanboys that are very much trolls. Intaminisnumber1 was one of them. He has now been banned. There are Intamin fans who are not trolls, just happen to really enjoy a manufacturer that many among us don't care as much for. YoungStud falls into this group. There are B&M fanboys who are being jerks to the Intamin fans. There are too many to name. There are B&M Fans who have engaged in coherent debate and largely remained clean and appropriate. Again, too many to name. People like YoungStud are valuable members of this forum. They allow us to have conversation, which is what a forum is all about. This place would be really really lame if everyone always agreed about everything. And honestly, I don't think anyone here dislikes Intamin as much as we let on. I think we just like to have some fun with YoungStud. Fortunately, he seems to be a good sport about it. And that is why I, for one, enjoy his company. So thank you, YoungStud. I hope your wildest dreams come true and a reliable, innovative, and forceful Intamin is built at KI one day. B&M Inverts are my all-time favorite non-wooden, non-Arrow coasters, so I'm looking forward to Thursday's announcement. I understand it's probably not as much fun for you. But either way, I hope you stick around, so that we can continue to poke fun at your love of Intamin (all in good fun, of course!) And now, back to our regularly scheduled decoding.

I stand before the council accused of being a B&M fanboy. How cute. Afterburn is the only B&M coaster in my personal top 10. All the same, that means that B&M has one more coaster in my top 10 than Intamin does. Sorry, I know this is 3 pages late. Just got home from work.