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Just wanted to point out that this company is putting on a show in Dayton in late February called Cirque Dreams Jungle Fantasy at the Victoria Theatre. This group also used to put on the Imaginique show at Busch Gardens. Having never seen the show I can't say how good it was but I have heard Imaginique was very well done. Although it was removed this year since it was too expensive.

Geauga Lake has enough space to expand for years. Even if they somehow use it all then they have a large lake in the middle of the park that could have rides built out over. If you go to maps.google.com and just type in Geauga Lake it will pop up as the first option just click it and just zoom in. Then click satellite in the upper right. X-flight is the coaster out on the west side of the park next to the parking lot. The photos are a few years out of date its while Wildwater Kingdom was being built on what used to be Seaworld. It is hard to tell from the photos just how much land is left because large sections of the Seaworld side are unused and the Geauga Lake side was in the process of having the old water park removed. But there is land available. Also from the photos you can see just how close X-flight is to a major road which is way we would all know the day something were to happen.

A women fell to her death from the ride. After that most of the rides only lasted a few more years. Very few of them are still opperating today. If you want to try to track down a park still running one they were built by Intamin and were called Flight Trainers. EDIT: Just wanted to point out that the ride was removed in 1995 and I am pretty sure it did not go anywhere it was just destroyed

I looked around and found some old attendance figures for GL from the 70's and 80's. In 1970 the park had 470,000 guests it went up to 900,000 in 1980 and it went into the 90's with around 1 million guests a year. This was while Sea World was still running and well before most of the costers were built. Out of the 10 coasters 7 were built between 1996 and 2001. The park did really well as a family park and its failing as a thrill park. I believe it needs to get back to its roots and put in more family friendly attractions. I don't know if moving or removing a coaster is the right thing to do but something has to be done. I am not sure how Cedar Fair is run but its common for many companies to run divisions (or parks in this case) as seperate parties and they have to purchase things from each other. In this case if the ride were to move to another park I would expect the park that gets the ride would "pay" the other out of its budgets. This could give Geauga Lake some extra cash for next season plus the removal of an attraction would free up money in other budgets around the park.

The reason I wanted to double check is that comment makes me think something is being moved, removed, or closed. I don't know if its going to be x-flight but I expect some changes to make the park cheaper to run. I would think that Cedar Fair would scrap Steel Venom, Close Dino Island, or remove Happy Harbor before they move X-Flight. But for a park its size and for the number of guests it gets it has an insane number of coasters. I had to check on rcdb but Geauga Lake has 10 and King's Island has 13. GL's attendance is around 700,000 while KI's is around 3.3 million. If it does get moved or steel venom does not get repaired I could understand why. Cedar Fair is spending a lot of money on the park and I would be surprised if it is even close to breaking even right now. My understanding is that Cedar Fair is going to reveal what its plans are for the parks by the end of the month so I would think if we just wait a few weeks we will know for sure and we can stop all the crazy guesses.

Did anyone listen to the Conference call from last week? I saw a comment on Geauga Guide which said "Footprint too large for their attendance figures" which based on the other comments it sounded like it came from the Conference call and I wanted to make sure its a real comment from Dick Kinzel.

When I was there I did not see a single line for any coaster. Right now there is good capacity on the dry side of the park if they just run the trains. The wet side though seemed badly layed out but very busy.

I am thinking the parking pass might not require that you own a season pass from that park. I think its going to be possible to purchase both a Kings Island and a Cedar Point parking pass and just have a single maxx pass. Thats not a very good option and there should be a parking pass for more then one park but for those people who do visit the parks often enough I believe it will be possible.

Because the park is not open to the public until the 24th they have almost 3 weeks to worry about how they are going to handle the parking passes. I have not seen anything about season passes for Geauga Lake or Cedar Point yet. It is still possible there will be an Ohio parking pass its too early to tell. My guess is we will find out about Cedar Points pricing on thursday so I suspect we will know then if there will be two differant parking passes or not.

Dude, Kings Island already has a Delerium you idiot What the park has is a Huss Giant Frisbee it just happens to be called Delirium.

I think its odd that there is no parking pass listed thats good for only Kings Island even. I assume its available at the park but you would think it would be listed on the website.

Just for everyone info both Geauga Lake and Cedar Point have admissions taxes already.

I did not even think of that as possible. But I hope your right and it would not surprise me at all.

Cedar Fair does not own Bonfante gardens it has a deal where they manage the park. Also they only own a portion of the Star Trek experience. At the time it was built the deal was Paramount owned all the hardware and the space itself was still the hotels. I believe it was considered a 50/50 deal. I am not sure if anything has changed since then.

Considering how early construction started I think a dueling coaster is very possible. Although its not unheard of to use two differant colors of track in a single coaster. Any pictures of the green track yet?

I just took a look and noticed that the PKI website has been updated. It now says "2007 Season Passes are currently unavailable for sale via web, phone or at the park. Please check this web site periodically for updates as they become available. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience." The prices have been removed as well. I am really starting to wonder whats going on.

Well since no one has said it yet how about a Huss Delirium. To my knowledge not a single park has ever put one in but the video looks good on the Huss website. Don't know if it would be fun to ride but I think it would be interesting to watch.

Except the price is missing. Looking forward to driving down to pickup a Cedar Fair Maxx Pass. Wish it included admission for the rest of the 2006 season at the other Cedar Fair parks though.

I don't think its possible for Kings Island to get a B&M next year. Cedar Fair has said that they are just going to put in what CBS already had planned for next year. It is my understanding that in the past it was unable to purchase a B&M because Cedar Fair has a contract that prevents the sale because of the proximity between Cedar Point and Kings Island B&M cannot sell coasters to Kings Island. Its a basic non compete agreement.

I would think that you could remove the anti-rollback devices from higher up the lift hill. Then move the train up to where you removed the anti-rollbacks and remove all of them from below where the train is sitting. Then it should be no problem to get it to roll backwards down the hill. I have no clue how easy it is to remove them from the track though.

Just thought I would post an update. Universal has raised their price to match. A single day single park ticket is now $67 at Universal which started on Saturday. Seaworld is still $61.95 and no word yet on if they plan to raise their price to match.

Now there is a ride that has had problems. 3 accidents in less then a year. The first had one death and 10 people injured. The other two were minor.

The issues at Disney were not because the ride malfunctioned, but because of pre-existing health problems with each person. The poblems with SoB and the issues at Disney are completely different. No I think he is talking about on Screamscape it was reported that during the Stitch show the animatronic apparently exploded and hydraulic fluid flew all over the audience. Disney kept it from the news by giving them more comps than a Vegas casino probably, I guess they don't really need anymore injuries on the news that happened at WDW. This has been discussed and someone who was there has even posted on a Disney forum. It was not the stitch AA but Sarge who is part of the preshow. Second no one was actually hurt. There is not enough hydraulic fluid to spray over the entire audience. A line burst or came loose which ruined some clothing but thats it. Unless your allergic to hydraulic fluid which is VERY rare the only way it could hurt you is if it is heated (which is common with hydraulics), you get it in your eyes, or you swallow some. How the story got blown up from replacing clothes to hush money I have no idea. Also where screamscape got the idea there was injuries I have no idea about either.

Walt Disney World has over 42 million guests a year between the 4 parks. When you have that many guests there is bound to be people who have medical problems.

I have been wondering if they could reuse the wood... Have gravity group come in and build dueling wooden coasters. You could still go with the animal names calling it The Pack or The Hunt.