Browntggrr Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/arc...t-far-away.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 I am hearing a big sucking noise coming from Orlando - not unlike that made by a thousand Hoovers and Eurekas all running at once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Good Old Disney. If that's true it sure puts the everyone is equal theory to the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Really? How so? Has it not always been true that many, many families cannot afford to go to Disney? Was there some program to let them in I didn't know about? And what of the very olden days, when rides took tickets? And it hasn't really been all that long ago that parks were segregated, including Coney Island in Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirium_Guy Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Really? How so? Has it not always been true that many, many families cannot afford to go to Disney? Was there some program to let them in I didn't know about? And what of the very olden days, when rides took tickets? And it hasn't really been all that long ago that parks were segregated, including Coney Island in Ohio. This really doesn't come as a surprise to me, as it would seem as if Universal has *already* removed their FREE Universal Express system in favor or people PAYING for it. At least, that is the way it appeared when I was there two days ago. I'd pay for fastpass, hell we are considering Annual Passes to Disney at this point. As for hearing a sucking noise coming from Orlando......if you only KNEW how much that irritated me. We've been at Disney for 5 days now. I always hear about how much they wanna gauge people on things. I find the opposite to be true. A few examples.....mostly food related. 20oz bottle of Coke at Disney -- $2 20oz bottle of Coke at KI -- $3.50 Large Fountain Drink at Disney -- $2.39 Large Fountain Drink at KI -- $3.49 Chicken Fingers w/ fries and drink @ Disney -- $10 Rivertown Potatoe Fries, Large drink at KI -- $12 So I'm failing to see where the gauging is coming into play when it certainly seems to hurt a lot more from our local park. I've made it through this trip spending around $20 a day for food.....and thats spending from 8AM until 10PM in the parks here. I think that if a Pay-Per-FastPass does come to light, it won't be that terribly unreasonable. Universal's isn't, I just refuse to buy it cause the lines are never that long in the first place. - Todd, enjoying Disney World at the moment......Soarin' anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 I guess you're right, Delirium_Guy. What I should have made clearer was that this pay fast pass is yet another way for them to make money. And don't get me wrong - I love Disney World and I really enjoy doing the whole Disney experience - staying "on grounds", park your car and ride the shuttles, DownTown Disney, etc. - I just don't like being taken advantage of because I had to stay at their "value resorts". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenban Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 There has been talk of having the higher end resort guests getting extra fast pass privileges for years. Yet today the only people getting any extra fast passes are the guests who are being given the lanyards from the year of a million dreams campaign. A patent application does not mean that they ever plan to implement it either. This is one of those things that I would wait until it happens before its worth discussing at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Really? How so? Has it not always been true that many, many families cannot afford to go to Disney? Was there some program to let them in I didn't know about? And what of the very olden days, when rides took tickets? And it hasn't really been all that long ago that parks were segregated, including Coney Island in Ohio. Yup. All I'm saying is that Disney is simply not that altruistic company that so many people picture it as. Can you imagine this senario: A daughter all excited to see Tinkerbell.... The Father says, "Honey, only the wealthier kids can see tinkerbell." Happiest place on Earth. Bahhhh, Humbug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 ^Except theres no fast passes for lines to go and see the charecters. A daughter all excited to see Tinkerbell... The Father says, "Ok honey, we just have to wait in this line to see her like everyone else" Just because the fast pass systsem has a possibility of behing changed in favor of those who spend more money at the park does not in any way mean that guests who are spending less will be turned away. I have been to Disney once, that was in 2004, my family is in no way wealthy, and that trip for the 5 of us to go there was a massive drain on funds for my parents and for them it was well worth it. We didn't have fast passes, but I did notice that when you got your time for fast pass, if the regular que line was an hour long then the fast pass time was generally about that long too. Disney just has a patent on this idea, it doesn't necesarilly mean theyre going to impliment the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 ^Except theres no fast passes for lines to go and see the charecters. A daughter all excited to see Tinkerbell... The Father says, "Ok honey, we just have to wait in this line to see her like everyone else" Daughter - "But Daddy, How Come Those Other People Get to Cut in Front Of Us?" Father - "Well Honey, They Make More Money Than Mommy and Daddy So They Get Special Privledges." Daughter - "But Doesn't Mickey Love All Of Us The Same?" Father - "Not as much as he loves money, honey." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzarley Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 A few points...Kenban and Bombay are right-just because a patent application has been applied for is no guarantee that the pay for FastPass idea will be adopted. Secondly, I've been a follower of the Disney Corporation for years, and I have never once heard of any company official trying to claim that they are a non-profit organization, and to try to make the argument that they portray themselves that way isn't really fair. In fact, Disney management have always been quite proud of their ability to make (lots of) money. And, finally--where is the outrage at Six Flags or Universal for charging for their "skip lines" programs? Or, even Busch for that matter charging nearly $400 for the Discovery Cove experience. (Which, BTW, was the absolutely best day I've ever had in ANY park...) Shouldn't that poor little disadvantaged girl waiting to see Tinker Bell also get the same opportunity to swim with a dolphin as as that wealthy kid at the front of the line for Space Mountain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 A few points...Kenban and Bombay are right-just because a patent application has been applied for is no guarantee that the pay for FastPass idea will be adopted. Secondly, I've been a follower of the Disney Corporation for years, and I have never once heard of any company official trying to claim that they are a non-profit organization, and to try to make the argument that they portray themselves that way isn't really fair. In fact, Disney management have always been quite proud of their ability to make (lots of) money. And, finally--where is the outrage at Six Flags or Universal for charging for their "skip lines" programs? Or, even Busch for that matter charging nearly $400 for the Discovery Cove experience. (Which, BTW, was the absolutely best day I've ever had in ANY park...) Shouldn't that poor little disadvantaged girl waiting to see Tinker Bell also get the same opportunity to swim with a dolphin as as that wealthy kid at the front of the line for Space Mountain? No, because that little girl's family is just not good enough to experience that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzarley Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 ^ For some reason, I'm picturing Cousin Eddie's youngest daughter from Nat'l Lampoon's "Christmas Vacation." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauntguy Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 They way I see it... everyone paid the same admission price to get in! There... there is your equality and that's where it should end! After that, if you want to BUY a fastpass... even IF Disney charges for them, then go ahead! Is this not fair to other people... HELL NO! Should've brought more money with you! It the same thing EVERYWHERE! At a Reds game... should a private box cost the same as a seat up top in the bleachers? If you can't afford, you can't afford it! People just have to "make-do" with what they have and enjoy it! I have NEVER been to Disney... Universal several times! But we are planning a Disney trip for '09 and we are saving NOW! You have to do what you got to do, I personally want to go down there and have ALL of the special privleges (sp?) and have NO lines... no matter how much it cost! -Hauntguy, who needs to stop thinking he's as equal as wealthier people... I'm not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Sure you are....it's just that some are more equal than others. That's the way of the world. Is today, was yesterday and will be tomorrow. Such is life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 A few points...Kenban and Bombay are right-just because a patent application has been applied for is no guarantee that the pay for FastPass idea will be adopted. Secondly, I've been a follower of the Disney Corporation for years, and I have never once heard of any company official trying to claim that they are a non-profit organization, and to try to make the argument that they portray themselves that way isn't really fair. In fact, Disney management have always been quite proud of their ability to make (lots of) money. And, finally--where is the outrage at Six Flags or Universal for charging for their "skip lines" programs? Or, even Busch for that matter charging nearly $400 for the Discovery Cove experience. (Which, BTW, was the absolutely best day I've ever had in ANY park...) Shouldn't that poor little disadvantaged girl waiting to see Tinker Bell also get the same opportunity to swim with a dolphin as as that wealthy kid at the front of the line for Space Mountain? No, because that little girl's family is just not good enough to experience that! Well maybe they're good enough, but they just dont have the money to. My parents are wonderful people but right now they couldn't afford to take me and my 2 sisters to Disney for a week again, guess my family's just not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooferBearATL Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Well maybe they're good enough, but they just dont have the money to. My parents are wonderful people but right now they couldn't afford to take me and my 2 sisters to Disney for a week again, guess my family's just not good enough. Well I was not going to say anything. <G> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarketingExpress Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 ^Except theres no fast passes for lines to go and see the charecters. A daughter all excited to see Tinkerbell... The Father says, "Ok honey, we just have to wait in this line to see her like everyone else" Daughter - "But Daddy, How Come Those Other People Get to Cut in Front Of Us?" Father - "Well Honey, They Make More Money Than Mommy and Daddy So They Get Special Privledges." Daughter - "But Doesn't Mickey Love All Of Us The Same?" Father - "Not as much as he loves money, honey." Now I haven't been to the Disney parks for a couple years...but I don't remember the FastPass system being in place to see the characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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