Vortex Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 (edited) Shane over at TPR has let me post some pictures of The Bat. Please be sure to check out his pictures. Yes that's a Bat car testing out a corkscrew. The Bat was going to have two corkscrews as you can see in this map of the first lay out of the ride. But Arrow did not have any luck with the corkscrews thats why it did not make its way to Kings Island. Edited February 7, 2008 by Vortex 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Vortex, you just made my day even better, thanks for sharing this. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaCeR Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Ive never ridden a suspended coaster with a corkskrew.!!!That would be cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 ^That's because there have not been any suspended coasters with any inversions. I've seen a vid where Arrow had a model of a suspended with a corkscrew, but that's all. In that pic, that would have been the only banked track. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 ^ I think this is the one KIBeast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplehaze Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Ok, that pic brings back tons of memories flooding back!!! I think I am gonna post those 80's pics on my newest website... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Which pictures are you talking about? If you're referring to the ones on Theme Park Review make sure you have the owners consent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplehaze Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Yes Gordon I know the rules, I am going thru my personal collection from those times when I worked there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) Also be sure to check out Shane's pictures here is a link. Edited February 8, 2008 by Vortex 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Vortex, you didn't have to remove them. Thank you for sharing them. The way Donnie's post was made me think he was just going to add those photos on TPR to his own collection, and I was just reminding him to give credit to the original poster of the photos like you did in the original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odettekitrigisele Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 ^ I think this is the one KIBeast... That was REALLY cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Weeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was how The Bat flew. Ahhhh, good times!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Maple The Tree King Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Odette, in all your posts wouldn't a single exclamation point suffice? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odettekitrigisele Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Odette, in all your posts wouldn't a single exclamation point suffice? Alright, at your request I shall keep it to 1. Sorry for any offense. I was just taken with the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 Vortex, you didn't have to remove them. Thank you for sharing them. The way Donnie's post was made me think he was just going to add those photos on TPR to his own collection, and I was just reminding him to give credit to the original poster of the photos like you did in the original post. Sorry I read that wrong, but I talk to Shane and he said it was okay to share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 While were all discussing the newly named Bat at Kings Island.....Take a look at some of the pictures in this discussion ^ above.....They're great views of the original Bat when it still existed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealNightmare Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I always have heard that Arrow suspended coasters were never able to have inversions because they couldn't come up with a way to stabilize the trains through the inversion. The cars would all topple over when they went upside down due to the suspension that helped it swing through the turns. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrick Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I never knew The Bat was originally suppose to have inversions. Was the top photo (this) taken at Arrow? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Amazing how much development went in to the creation of the Suspended coaster but it never took off. But there have been and are some very good suspended models out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkyFoxx Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Wishful thinking, but it would be really cool if they remodeled the current Top Gun/Flight Deck cars to look like the old Bat cars. I know this won't happen as that would be a bigger undertaking than what is already ahead for its re-theming, but its a nice thought 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 It would never have worked without stabilization from the top and from the bottom of the coaster....like it is stabilized upon reentry into the station. That could have been extremely rough mid course to slam into the stabilizer before a corkscrew or a loop. Anyone riding on Flight deck on it's return to the station knows what I'm talking about. (slight speed and not at 45 miles per hour of course.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryoj Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'd think that if they tried this today, they could have some kind of sensor based thing where, at certain points of the track, it could lock the shocks on the car and prevent it from swaying. Once it was past the inversion, it could unlock the cars and let them sway again. Doubt we'd ever see that today, but I'd think the technology is there by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum91 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 From the first post... Yes that's a Bat car testing out a corkscrew. The Bat was going to have two corkscrews as you can see in this map of the first lay out of the ride. I don't see any corkscrews in that concept art - I think the two spirals are just basic helices (as clearly seen in the ride overview here). I'm sure Arrow Dynamics had wanted to incorporate inversions into the ride, but by the time it was announced to the public (and that little piece of concept art was drawn), the idea had been quietly abandoned. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Correct. The Bat was never designed with, or inteded to have, inversions of any sort. Shaggy 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 Found a picture of The Bat trains testing on a corkscrew track. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Very cool Vortex! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHFan29 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) WOW! Great find Vortex! It looks like it's at arrow's testing grounds. Edited October 30, 2013 by KHFan29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 WOW! Great find Vortex but it looks like it's at arrow's testing grounds not Kings Island. He did not say it was at KI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHFan29 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I know he didn't say it, I'm just jugging by the pictures, that's all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Found a picture of The Bat trains testing on a corkscrew track. Curious... am I missing something? How do you know those are Bat trains? I just see chassis. None-the-less... it's highly likely The Bat trains could have been used for further testing in Utah once their production had occurred. It was likely this test that proved the stablization to be an issue. Seems obvious to me, so I am a bit surprised it made it to the actual physical testing stage. Just think about it. The train would need to hit the inversion at the perfect speed - not too slow, not too fast. In a scenario where weight fluctuates dependant upon riders ensuring an exact rate of speed is nearly impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 Not a great a picture you can kinda make one of The Bat cars. I am not saying it was going to Kings Island just what could have been if it worked out. In the background the Arrow bobsled coaster. Both coasters where at the Arrow testing area. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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