How interesting would it be to walk into a park to see one of these rides? It is so amazing what the ride industry is coming up with. Only makes being a coaster designer more fun, yet harder to come up with new ideas!

That is a really really cool concept!! I would love to see a real coaster like that! I wish I knew no limits better .. im just kinda starting to learn somewhat =^)

WOW! thats amazing, I wonder where they get these new ride concepts I would love to take a ride on one looks awsome!

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capacity could be low ??? But wow what a ride, it would be,,,and themed to so many things too:

S & S. And I remember being excited about HypersonicXLC, too. And then......I rode it.

^Your kinda negitive today, aren't you.

I would love to see that, And I could really se that kind of ride happening in the near future!

Nope. I have ridden HypersonicXLC. If I were kind of negative today, I'd tell you about the experience. On the other hand, they did also build Avalanche, one of my favorite wooden coasters anywhere (and by far my favorite in the Wisconsin Dells):

http://www.rcdb.com/ig2588.htm?picture=21

^ Every Manufacutrer has their ups and Downs.

I think we'll just have to wait and see. Although I can see this being a mantinence nightmare.

^ Every Manufacutrer has their ups and Downs.

Pun intended?

Looks very slow and doesn't appear that it does all that much. Two inversions. No drops, no hills, no loops, no corkscrews. Doesn't look too exciting to me.

100% awesomeness!

http://www.thinkercreative.com/finalsite/c...fly/freefly.php

Love it! I want KI to get one...

I could see this thing having way too much down time.

Brought to you by the same fine folk who made HypersonicXLC...a coaster Cedar Fair removed from Kings Dominion. Doesn't sound like a promising future vendor for the company to me....

I think it's a great prototype but it still needs to get some better layout designs, capacity, and shining it up a bit.

Cedar Fair, unlike Paramount Parks in its mid-ownership of theme parks, does not normally acquire prototypes....Mr. Kinzel broke that rule once...and I doubt he does so again.

It's so awesome how coasters have evolved throughout history. It used to just be wooden coasters. In the 50's steel coasters started. In the 70's coasters started to have inversions. In the 80's; Arrows where the new thing and suspended coasters started. By the 90's there where standups and inverts. More coasters could do new types of inversions and reach crazy speeds. Launched coasters started in the mid 90's. By 2000, wooden coasters could reach speeds well over 70mph. and steel coasters could reach over 100! New types of coasters started to apear like 4th. Dimensions, Zac Spins, Dive Machines, Flyers, and more!

I think this coaster will be a success, by may have bad downtime for a while. I could see newer improved versions of this coaster appear in the next ten years, and maybe it could actually do "real" inversions?

Some wooden coasters had inversions as early as 1895!

http://www.rcdb.com/id2512.htm

By the way, the designer of that 1895 coaster, Lina Beecher, also designed a steel coaster for a park in Columbus, Olentangy Park...and that must have been long before the 1950's! In fact, the park closed in 1937!

Even Fontaine Ferry in Louisville (known many years later as Ghost Town On The River) had a wooden looper:

http://www.rcdb.com/id2336.htm

Due to injuries, maintenance issues, and lack of repeat ridership, the rides, commonly known as Flip-Flaps, failed. In 2000, a North American theme park installed a newer version of a looping wooden coaster. The only one on the planet. We all know how that ended.

Flip Flap Railway had 12 G Force!!! Wow! Isn't that deadly? I read in a coaster book that the average high G Force is 4 and anything over 8 ( i think) would make you blackout.

I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that g-force figure. First, instrumentation wasn't all that great back then. Second, there was little policing of claims made by parks, ride designers or promoters. Third, hype, puffery and exaggeration were all common place.

I just wonder if the train could suffer the same structural issues that the original X train experienced. Seems like a lot of strees having the passenger pods hanging out to the sides and with the lateral G's.

As I have seen more from this from IAAPA, I noticed that rather than using hydraluics to control the swinging like on suspended coasters, it seems to use airbags, looks to be the same kind they use in the auto industry. Interesting idea.

^^Wasn't X's original train problem due in part to overall weight??

Either way, I think it looks fun, but only thrilling in the same way as a Chance rainbow.

And btw, for the person who mentioned the dull look, I think that's because it has yet to be painted by the park getting it. (a la King Cobra in Japan pre-KI)

Yes one of the many issues with the original X trains was the weight. Throw on top of that the width of the trains and how the weight hung off the side of the track, the high g's the trains couldn't hold up. I believe in the redesign of the trains they were able to remove 20,000 lbs of weight from the trains. The weight issue was so bad that they were changing out around 20 wheels a day on the trains. The trains just eventually broke down.

Hopefully S&S learned from the issues Arrow had and this new concept doesn't share the same issues. Then again there are always bugs with concepts.

I think it looks fun. I can unnderstand some of the comments about it being a simple layout and there aren't any inversions because the cars turn but think about all the movement of those cars. You would have all that centripital or centrifuginal force through the rolls like a rail rider and the cars pivot front to back on a horizontal axis. It would be a pretty unique ride experience.

This looks eirely similar to the Arrow 4th Dimension model.....

Somehow I imagine something like this being on a track more like Avatar, rather than a circuit.