Unlike steel coasters, a good cast iron pan is virtually forever. And I'd much rather have an old one than a new one anyday!

That all being said, I wait with great anticipation for the largest addition to Kings Island in park history, and probably, in the words of the younguns, the funnest.

You honestly think that Diamondback is the "largest" addition in park history? I think The Beast was pretty groundbreaking when it opened thirty years ago and put Kings Island on the national map.

However, Diamondback will be the largest, and likely the best, steel coaster ever installed at Kings Island. I`m sure that it will likely be the funnest and attract scores of fans for years to come.

In terms of guts and moral courage, installing a ride that is largely out of industry fashion (wooden roller coasters at the time Beast was put in vs. a large steel coaster in a very poor economic environment in the face of great debt), Beast and Diamondback have great parallels. The economic cost to the installing organization is probably greater for Diamondback than was Beast in constant dollars. Dinn coasters were a relative bargain, though sunk costs were a smaller percentage of life cycle costs than will probably be the case with Diamondback.

It is none other than Mr. Helbig who has characterized this as the biggest one ride addition in park history. Puffery? Perhaps. We shall see...but I bet the words end up fitting. Diamondback won't be as unique as The (one and only) Beast. That being said, I still think it will be as much of a, if not even more of a, crowd pleaser, both this year and for many years to come.

Technically speaking, Diamondback will be the tallest addition in Kings Island history, not the largest. As a matter of fact, Son of Beast is the largest. For when saying the word largest, one is refering to volume.

In terms of guts and moral courage, installing a ride that is largely out of industry fashion (wooden roller coasters at the time Beast was put in vs. a large steel coaster in a very poor economic environment in the face of great debt), Beast and Diamondback have great parallels. The economic cost to the installing organization is probably greater for Diamondback than was Beast in constant dollars. Dinn coasters were a relative bargain, though sunk costs were a smaller percentage of life cycle costs than will probably be the case with Diamondback.

It is none other than Mr. Helbig who has characterized this as the biggest one ride addition in park history. Puffery? Perhaps. We shall see...but I bet the words end up fitting. Diamondback won't be as unique as The (one and only) Beast. That being said, I still think it will be as much of a, if not even more of a, crowd pleaser, both this year and for many years to come.

So based on what you just said. What do you think of the rumors of the big coaster installation at Carrowinds? I would think KI's was well along before the economy hit its trouble. Not the case for Carowinds or CF's other parks.

Technically speaking, Diamondback will be the tallest addition in Kings Island history, not the largest. As a matter of fact, Son of Beast is the largest. For when saying the word largest, one is refering to volume.

To assume large can only refer to size is specious.

In addition, last I checked both Drop Tower and Eiffel Tower are taller. And that's just off the top of my head.

Terpy, who HAD to

I stand corrected!

It's only a quarter a try, so if you're good enough at it, you can get a pretty good sized "something-or-other" for like 75 cents. It's located right by The Beast on ride photo kiosk. There was one by The Racer/Outer Limits area at one time as well, but I think it might have moved.

It's still there. Facing the X-Base sign, its on the left side.

In terms of guts and moral courage, installing a ride that is largely out of industry fashion (wooden roller coasters at the time Beast was put in vs. a large steel coaster in a very poor economic environment in the face of great debt), Beast and Diamondback have great parallels. The economic cost to the installing organization is probably greater for Diamondback than was Beast in constant dollars. Dinn coasters were a relative bargain, though sunk costs were a smaller percentage of life cycle costs than will probably be the case with Diamondback.

It is none other than Mr. Helbig who has characterized this as the biggest one ride addition in park history. Puffery? Perhaps. We shall see...but I bet the words end up fitting. Diamondback won't be as unique as The (one and only) Beast. That being said, I still think it will be as much of a, if not even more of a, crowd pleaser, both this year and for many years to come.

So based on what you just said. What do you think of the rumors of the big coaster installation at Carrowinds? I would think KI's was well along before the economy hit its trouble. Not the case for Carowinds or CF's other parks.

Found the answer to my question.

http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?...15378&st=90

You think? That remains to be seen. To my knowledge, no sales of any assets have been approved. The park as a whole could still be sold as a going concern, though that is looking less and less likely. I wouldn't count on any coaster at Hard Rock Park going to any park in particular as of yet.

I still believe in the possibility of B&M hyper. There were rumours that several layouts were already drawn up, but maybe thats all they are, rumours

You know, speaking of large additions to the park, I have to think what it was like to see the Tower and Royal Fountains being installed initially. Actually, I'm taken back by them a little everytime I visit KI. Imagine watching them being constructed in a field. In southern Ohio. Just so people can walk around and enjoy them. Its really amazing how lucky we are.

Indeed it is. I am, as many of you know, a huge fan of Great Adventure in New Jersey. That great park has nothing comparable to either the Eiffel Tower or to the Royal Fountain. Nothing even remotely.

Anyone have any idea what the final piece of track layed will be?

The final piece of track is going where the opening between the splash down and the final break run

You honestly think that Diamondback is the "largest" addition in park history? I think The Beast was pretty groundbreaking when it opened thirty years ago and put Kings Island on the national map.

However, Diamondback will be the largest, and likely the best, steel coaster ever installed at Kings Island. I`m sure that it will likely be the funnest and attract scores of fans for years to come.

Really?! i think it would of been Vortex or SoB. Vortex was the first roller coaster in the world with 6 inversons and SoB was the only wodden coaster with a loop

You know, speaking of large additions to the park, I have to think what it was like to see the Tower and Royal Fountains being installed initially. Actually, I'm taken back by them a little everytime I visit KI. Imagine watching them being constructed in a field. In southern Ohio. Just so people can walk around and enjoy them. Its really amazing how lucky we are.

I would love to see construction pics of that.

^ i think The Vortex was also the tallest when it opened.

SoB was the only wodden coaster with a loop

it was also the first wooden coaster to cross the 200' barrier.

...and to date, only wooden coaster so to do...Also the fastest wooden coaster and the wooden coaster with the longest drop...

^ and it probaly takes the title of the biggest wooden flop!

I take it you never rode Hercules. Or Predator. Or the Texas Giant. Or Rattler after the first year. Or California's Grizzly.

No I haven't but I refuse to ride Son of Beast and so do many others.

In any event, those wooden coasters are what they are. Diamondback will be totally different. And that's a very good thing. Off topic? Perhaps not. Steel hypers are meant to mimic the wooden coaster experience. And Nitro, Goliath and company do that very well. In fact, I prefer them to MOST wooden coasters. I bet Diamondback will delight nearly all of its riders.

^ I'm more than sure it will delight me unless I like... fall out or something, but anyway....

And one of the best things? It's a B and M....engineered like no other coasters in the world...highly reliable, extremely safe...the Cadillac of steel coasters! (You can tell Terpy dates to the days when Cadillac truly was the standard of the world!)

There was one by The Racer/Outer Limits area at one time as well, but I think it might have moved.

Correct me if i am wrong but isnt it the very last game that sits right beside the FOF sign and almost under The Racer hill?

Just my opinion but, I'm really getting sick and tired of this "never ride Son of Beast" crap! If you don't like a ride, so be it! Don't go around saying that its a flop and that its no fun or not worth it! Really immature!

Now that I got that off my back, let's get back to the ride that's being built by Kings. Although some may have forgotten what topic they were in.

Yes back on topic. I wonder how much airtime we are going to be looking at here?

Yeah, I think that was also asked once or twice a while back in this thread, but never answered.

I wonder if it will pass up my dear ol' Voyage in airtime?

One of the best airtime coasters i have ridden is surprisingly Gemini at CP. That coaster has got some good air time. With all these hills on Diamondback though i am sure we are in for some mass amounts of airtime.