Kings Island Newsletter (November)

[BavarianBeatle]

I have watched this issue develop through the years and each time the story always changes why they need the additional revenue. I wish government would just come out and state the true purpose of their intentions and why it is necessary to ask the general public for the funds with facts and figures to back up their propositions.

I feel the City of Mason has and is being disingenuous in regards to this issue. For that I fell it is the responsibility of the general public and the citizen of Mason who need to send a strong message and renounce this type of disingenuousness in our elected officials and to send a loud message to all future candidates that Mason expects honest and transparency. Further more by doing so the community sends a very loud message that they appreciate their local business and look to them as a partner in the community and not a revenue resource.

I feel so strongly about my words that I plan to back it up by attending The Mason City Council Meeting on Monday night and express my concerns. I will fell proud as a out of state visitor to stand with the citizens of Mason and the representatives of Kings Island and The Beach to voice our opposition to an injustice that touches so many in their own way.

I hope many more of you who read this will feel compelled to attend too.

I will be there as well. Perhaps we should start a meet up thread. I strongly urge all of those who love KI to do the same.

[KIfan73]

I assume it's no accident this is being brought up at a meeting after the season is over...

I'm just picturing a mob of sweaty, tired, fanny-pack wielding park patrons/enthusiasts catching wind of this and heading straight to this meeting after pulling out of the Gold Pass lot.

I doubt the timing of this meeting (as far as the season is concerned) is really an issue.

However, I will point out that Tax Man opened discussions of the admissions tax at the last council meeting... which was something that was NOT originally scheduled to be discussed. He's trying to sneak this in quietly... at your expense.

...and while no one that will actually be footing the bill is around...

[CincyMan98]

I'm 11 years old, remember, so no matter how many times you explain this to me, I still won't understand. But oh well.

[CedarPointer]

Since Ryan made me think of it...

[The Interpreter]

I'm 11 years old, remember, so no matter how many times you explain this to me, I still won't understand. But oh well.

It's okay...and that's how we all learn. All of us were 11 years old once.

Ask anytime about any thing you don't understand...if you don't, there are also others who do not.

Terpy, who hopes he's helping...

[CincyMan98]

Okay I don't need to watch School House Rock, even though it might be catchy........

[CedarPointer]

Okay I don't need to watch School House Rock, even though it might be catchy........

Oh, I wasn't directing that at you!

[BoddaH1994]

I have watched this issue develop through the years and each time the story always changes why they need the additional revenue. I wish government would just come out and state the true purpose of their intentions and why it is necessary to ask the general public for the funds with facts and figures to back up their propositions.

I feel the City of Mason has and is being disingenuous in regards to this issue. For that I fell it is the responsibility of the general public and the citizen of Mason who need to send a strong message and renounce this type of disingenuousness in our elected officials and to send a loud message to all future candidates that Mason expects honest and transparency. Further more by doing so the community sends a very loud message that they appreciate their local business and look to them as a partner in the community and not a revenue resource.

I feel so strongly about my words that I plan to back it up by attending The Mason City Council Meeting on Monday night and express my concerns. I will fell proud as a out of state visitor to stand with the citizens of Mason and the representatives of Kings Island and The Beach to voice our opposition to an injustice that touches so many in their own way.

I hope many more of you who read this will feel compelled to attend too.

I will be there as well. Perhaps we should start a meet up thread. I strongly urge all of those who love KI to do the same.

That's great! I know of a few people of the forums who will be in attendance, myself included. If this thing is defeated then not only can you be happy for Kings Island but proud of yourselves.

[Beast1979]

My parents have made it quite clear that when I get an income then I pay for my season passes. Until then poor old Tooper Mom pays the bills. I wonder how she will react to this news, but if I were her I'm sure I'd be quite outraged. Down with taxes!

[BavarianBeatle]

Tax Man is an ok descirption of this guy, but, for those who know History, George III is a more accurate description. I thought taxation without representation ended in 1776, but I guess I was wrong. It should come as no surprize to anyone that he enjoys spending time in Russia!!

http://www.imaginemason.org/home.php?ID=96

Apparently he wants to bring their form of government to the City of Mason.

[BoddaH1994]

My parents have made it quite clear that when I get an income then I pay for my season passes. Until then poor old Tooper Mom pays the bills. I wonder how she will react to this news, but if I were her I'm sure I'd be quite outraged. Down with taxes!

That's the thing, you can't think of this so one-dimensionally.

Sure, season passes and admissions will go up slightly but that's not what's going to affect you the most. The thing that will affect you those most is when group sales decline, they'll have to offset that in some way -- mainly by higher prices within the park and cutting costs elsewhere.

[TylerRider]

Since Ryan made me think of it...

Oooooo. I get it.

[KI-ORIG-EMP]

I lived in Kings Mills all my life and I remember when Mason was nothing more than a sleepy villiage and was a nice quite place to live. Since Mason became a city and business like P&G moved into the area along with others, Mason has out grown their britches. They have built broad streets with nicely manacured mediums, fancy gas lit street lamps, a huge new municiple building and spent millions to buy a golf course, spent millions for a skate park and oh yea...increased taxes for its citizens. Mason has grown from a police force you can count on a single hand to the huge force they have today. Mason council complains they must increase taxes to pay for all the increase wear and tear on the roads, and added police and fire protection. Then came the talk of Deerfield becomming a city and Mason offer the owners of Kings Island that they can provide all the services and oh yea...trust us when we say we won't add a tax on your guests, your employees will be taxed enough to cover that.

It is time to tell Mason to shove it. Mason and our elected officials in Washington think that they can continue to tax businesses and it won't hurt them because they already made too much in profits. If Mason was to vote on this tax and it passes, Kings Island should tell Mason they must pay for thier own police to patrol in the park. As it is right now, this is a gravy over time job for some of the policmen. Nice to see them sit in ther patrol cars in an almost empty parking lot.

[windshawne]

I have watched this issue develop through the years and each time the story always changes why they need the additional revenue. I wish government would just come out and state the true purpose of their intentions and why it is necessary to ask the general public for the funds with facts and figures to back up their propositions.

I feel the City of Mason has and is being disingenuous in regards to this issue. For that I fell it is the responsibility of the general public and the citizen of Mason who need to send a strong message and renounce this type of disingenuousness in our elected officials and to send a loud message to all future candidates that Mason expects honest and transparency. Further more by doing so the community sends a very loud message that they appreciate their local business and look to them as a partner in the community and not a revenue resource.

I feel so strongly about my words that I plan to back it up by attending The Mason City Council Meeting on Monday night and express my concerns. I will fell proud as a out of state visitor to stand with the citizens of Mason and the representatives of Kings Island and The Beach to voice our opposition to an injustice that touches so many in their own way.

I hope many more of you who read this will feel compelled to attend too.

I'll be there-this is bull****. Did I read right that when KI agreed to be part of Mason there would be no admission tax? This stinks all the way around.

And KI-Orig-Emp-I agree with the Mason force sitting in the lot-that is just WRONG. Why not let the park stimulate job growth by hiring enough officers to cover it by themselves?

[BoddaH1994]

I have watched this issue develop through the years and each time the story always changes why they need the additional revenue. I wish government would just come out and state the true purpose of their intentions and why it is necessary to ask the general public for the funds with facts and figures to back up their propositions.

I feel the City of Mason has and is being disingenuous in regards to this issue. For that I fell it is the responsibility of the general public and the citizen of Mason who need to send a strong message and renounce this type of disingenuousness in our elected officials and to send a loud message to all future candidates that Mason expects honest and transparency. Further more by doing so the community sends a very loud message that they appreciate their local business and look to them as a partner in the community and not a revenue resource.

I feel so strongly about my words that I plan to back it up by attending The Mason City Council Meeting on Monday night and express my concerns. I will fell proud as a out of state visitor to stand with the citizens of Mason and the representatives of Kings Island and The Beach to voice our opposition to an injustice that touches so many in their own way.

I hope many more of you who read this will feel compelled to attend too.

I'll be there-this is bull****. Did I read right that when KI agreed to be part of Mason there would be no admission tax? This stinks all the way around.

And KI-Orig-Emp-I agree with the Mason force sitting in the lot-that is just WRONG.

Yep -- that's the story. They had a handshake agreement with Mason that they would not impose an admissions tax when they were annexed. Apparently Kings Island still possesses the letter.

However, Tax Man's response is that it was an agreement between two different entities -- the council has turned over since the agreement and Kings Island is no longer owned by Paramount. So yeah, on top of everything else it's just an absolute lack of integrity on his part.

I also want to point out that a lot of people are blaming the city of Mason for this. They have done nothing wrong yet. It's Tony "Tax Man" Bradburn that has proposed this -- more than once. That's why it's important to be there this Monday and help us convince the rest of the council that he's wrong. Remember -- he only needs 4 votes for it to go through.

[windshawne]

I have watched this issue develop through the years and each time the story always changes why they need the additional revenue. I wish government would just come out and state the true purpose of their intentions and why it is necessary to ask the general public for the funds with facts and figures to back up their propositions.

I feel the City of Mason has and is being disingenuous in regards to this issue. For that I fell it is the responsibility of the general public and the citizen of Mason who need to send a strong message and renounce this type of disingenuousness in our elected officials and to send a loud message to all future candidates that Mason expects honest and transparency. Further more by doing so the community sends a very loud message that they appreciate their local business and look to them as a partner in the community and not a revenue resource.

I feel so strongly about my words that I plan to back it up by attending The Mason City Council Meeting on Monday night and express my concerns. I will fell proud as a out of state visitor to stand with the citizens of Mason and the representatives of Kings Island and The Beach to voice our opposition to an injustice that touches so many in their own way.

I hope many more of you who read this will feel compelled to attend too.

I'll be there-this is bull****. Did I read right that when KI agreed to be part of Mason there would be no admission tax? This stinks all the way around.

And KI-Orig-Emp-I agree with the Mason force sitting in the lot-that is just WRONG.

Yep -- that's the story. They had a handshake agreement with Mason that they would not impose an admissions tax when they were annexed. Apparently Kings Island still possesses the letter.

However, Tax Man's response is that it was an agreement between two different entities -- the council has turned over since the agreement and Kings Island is no longer owned by Paramount. So yeah, on top of everything else it's just an absolute lack of integrity on his part.

I also want to point out that a lot of people are blaming the city of Mason for this. They have done nothing wrong yet. It's Tony "Tax Man" Bradburn that has proposed this -- more than once. That's why it's important to be there this Monday and help us convince the rest of the council that he's wrong. Remember -- he only needs 4 votes for it to go through.

A successful business that he wants to cash in on-without crossing the line, that has made our current situation what it is. If this goes through, they will be biting the hand that feeds them. Things are different now, and they would do well to remember that.

[BoddaH1994]

I have watched this issue develop through the years and each time the story always changes why they need the additional revenue. I wish government would just come out and state the true purpose of their intentions and why it is necessary to ask the general public for the funds with facts and figures to back up their propositions.

I feel the City of Mason has and is being disingenuous in regards to this issue. For that I fell it is the responsibility of the general public and the citizen of Mason who need to send a strong message and renounce this type of disingenuousness in our elected officials and to send a loud message to all future candidates that Mason expects honest and transparency. Further more by doing so the community sends a very loud message that they appreciate their local business and look to them as a partner in the community and not a revenue resource.

I feel so strongly about my words that I plan to back it up by attending The Mason City Council Meeting on Monday night and express my concerns. I will fell proud as a out of state visitor to stand with the citizens of Mason and the representatives of Kings Island and The Beach to voice our opposition to an injustice that touches so many in their own way.

I hope many more of you who read this will feel compelled to attend too.

I'll be there-this is bull****. Did I read right that when KI agreed to be part of Mason there would be no admission tax? This stinks all the way around.

And KI-Orig-Emp-I agree with the Mason force sitting in the lot-that is just WRONG.

Yep -- that's the story. They had a handshake agreement with Mason that they would not impose an admissions tax when they were annexed. Apparently Kings Island still possesses the letter.

However, Tax Man's response is that it was an agreement between two different entities -- the council has turned over since the agreement and Kings Island is no longer owned by Paramount. So yeah, on top of everything else it's just an absolute lack of integrity on his part.

I also want to point out that a lot of people are blaming the city of Mason for this. They have done nothing wrong yet. It's Tony "Tax Man" Bradburn that has proposed this -- more than once. That's why it's important to be there this Monday and help us convince the rest of the council that he's wrong. Remember -- he only needs 4 votes for it to go through.

A successful business that he wants to cash in on-without crossing the line, that has made our current situation what it is. If this goes through, they will be biting the hand that feeds them. Things are different now, and they would do well to remember that.

I'm really glad that you plan on being there. Are you going to address the council?

[windshawne]

I have watched this issue develop through the years and each time the story always changes why they need the additional revenue. I wish government would just come out and state the true purpose of their intentions and why it is necessary to ask the general public for the funds with facts and figures to back up their propositions.

I feel the City of Mason has and is being disingenuous in regards to this issue. For that I fell it is the responsibility of the general public and the citizen of Mason who need to send a strong message and renounce this type of disingenuousness in our elected officials and to send a loud message to all future candidates that Mason expects honest and transparency. Further more by doing so the community sends a very loud message that they appreciate their local business and look to them as a partner in the community and not a revenue resource.

I feel so strongly about my words that I plan to back it up by attending The Mason City Council Meeting on Monday night and express my concerns. I will fell proud as a out of state visitor to stand with the citizens of Mason and the representatives of Kings Island and The Beach to voice our opposition to an injustice that touches so many in their own way.

I hope many more of you who read this will feel compelled to attend too.

I'll be there-this is bull****. Did I read right that when KI agreed to be part of Mason there would be no admission tax? This stinks all the way around.

And KI-Orig-Emp-I agree with the Mason force sitting in the lot-that is just WRONG.

Yep -- that's the story. They had a handshake agreement with Mason that they would not impose an admissions tax when they were annexed. Apparently Kings Island still possesses the letter.

However, Tax Man's response is that it was an agreement between two different entities -- the council has turned over since the agreement and Kings Island is no longer owned by Paramount. So yeah, on top of everything else it's just an absolute lack of integrity on his part.

I also want to point out that a lot of people are blaming the city of Mason for this. They have done nothing wrong yet. It's Tony "Tax Man" Bradburn that has proposed this -- more than once. That's why it's important to be there this Monday and help us convince the rest of the council that he's wrong. Remember -- he only needs 4 votes for it to go through.

A successful business that he wants to cash in on-without crossing the line, that has made our current situation what it is. If this goes through, they will be biting the hand that feeds them. Things are different now, and they would do well to remember that.

I'm really glad that you plan on being there. Are you going to address the council?

Only if I totally understand what is happening and can contribute to make a difference. This is a first for me, so its educational as well. I'm going to wing it

[standbyme]

If anyone's fine with this now, I don't want to hear them complaining if it passes.

That was close...at least we can still post a complaint!

[BoddaH1994]

I have watched this issue develop through the years and each time the story always changes why they need the additional revenue. I wish government would just come out and state the true purpose of their intentions and why it is necessary to ask the general public for the funds with facts and figures to back up their propositions.

I feel the City of Mason has and is being disingenuous in regards to this issue. For that I fell it is the responsibility of the general public and the citizen of Mason who need to send a strong message and renounce this type of disingenuousness in our elected officials and to send a loud message to all future candidates that Mason expects honest and transparency. Further more by doing so the community sends a very loud message that they appreciate their local business and look to them as a partner in the community and not a revenue resource.

I feel so strongly about my words that I plan to back it up by attending The Mason City Council Meeting on Monday night and express my concerns. I will fell proud as a out of state visitor to stand with the citizens of Mason and the representatives of Kings Island and The Beach to voice our opposition to an injustice that touches so many in their own way.

I hope many more of you who read this will feel compelled to attend too.

I'll be there-this is bull****. Did I read right that when KI agreed to be part of Mason there would be no admission tax? This stinks all the way around.

And KI-Orig-Emp-I agree with the Mason force sitting in the lot-that is just WRONG.

Yep -- that's the story. They had a handshake agreement with Mason that they would not impose an admissions tax when they were annexed. Apparently Kings Island still possesses the letter.

However, Tax Man's response is that it was an agreement between two different entities -- the council has turned over since the agreement and Kings Island is no longer owned by Paramount. So yeah, on top of everything else it's just an absolute lack of integrity on his part.

I also want to point out that a lot of people are blaming the city of Mason for this. They have done nothing wrong yet. It's Tony "Tax Man" Bradburn that has proposed this -- more than once. That's why it's important to be there this Monday and help us convince the rest of the council that he's wrong. Remember -- he only needs 4 votes for it to go through.

A successful business that he wants to cash in on-without crossing the line, that has made our current situation what it is. If this goes through, they will be biting the hand that feeds them. Things are different now, and they would do well to remember that.

I'm really glad that you plan on being there. Are you going to address the council?

Only if I totally understand what is happening and can contribute to make a difference. This is a first for me, so its educational as well. I'm going to wing it

That's the fortunate part of all of this. The information has been pretty well laid out by both Kings Island and the media. Anyone can read the initial post in this thread and be able to tell the rest of the council why Tax Man is wrong.

[BavarianBeatle]

In addition, I read Mason's Charter. Under Article X, Section 10.04, the City cannot tax income at a rate above one percent. The admissions and parking revenue are undoubtedly income to the park, therefore, their own charter prohibits the imposition of this tax.

http://www.imaginemason.org/pdfs/charter.pdf

[BoddaH1994]

In addition, I read Mason's Charter. Under Article X, Section 10.04, the City cannot tax income at a rate above one percent. The admissions and parking revenue are undoubtedly income to the park, therefore, their own charter prohibits the imposition of this tax.

http://www.imaginemason.org/pdfs/charter.pdf

That's probably individual income.

[BavarianBeatle]

In addition, I read Mason's Charter. Under Article X, Section 10.04, the City cannot tax income at a rate above one percent. The admissions and parking revenue are undoubtedly income to the park, therefore, their own charter prohibits the imposition of this tax.

http://www.imaginemason.org/pdfs/charter.pdf

That's probably individual income.

That's not what it says. It applies to any "tax on income." But, remember we're dealing with a guy who's a big fan of Russia, is willing to simply disregard the City's promises, and who tried to sneak this measure through when it wasn't of Council's agenda, so I doubt he'll let a little thing like the City Charter stand in his way.

[BoddaH1994]

In addition, I read Mason's Charter. Under Article X, Section 10.04, the City cannot tax income at a rate above one percent. The admissions and parking revenue are undoubtedly income to the park, therefore, their own charter prohibits the imposition of this tax.

http://www.imaginemason.org/pdfs/charter.pdf

That's probably individual income.

That's not what it says. It applies to any "tax on income." But, remember we're dealing with a guy who's a big fan of Russia, is willing to simply disregard the City's promises, and who tried to sneak this measure through when it wasn't of Council's agenda, so I doubt he'll let a little thing like the City CHarter stand in his way.

Then certainly bring that up when you address the council.

[BavarianBeatle]

In addition, I read Mason's Charter. Under Article X, Section 10.04, the City cannot tax income at a rate above one percent. The admissions and parking revenue are undoubtedly income to the park, therefore, their own charter prohibits the imposition of this tax.

http://www.imaginemason.org/pdfs/charter.pdf

That's probably individual income.

That's not what it says. It applies to any "tax on income." But, remember we're dealing with a guy who's a big fan of Russia, is willing to simply disregard the City's promises, and who tried to sneak this measure through when it wasn't of Council's agenda, so I doubt he'll let a little thing like the City CHarter stand in his way.

Then certainly bring that up when you address the council.

I certainly plan to.

[windshawne]

I think someone needs to ask him what the tax money will be used for..a perk for the council? Even if the original agreement was made on a handshake, that is still binding-you lose integrity with me if you turn around on a previous agreement. Isn't that a form of LYING?

Im sure folks my age and older can relate to this sort of agreement. It meant something back in the day.

[BavarianBeatle]

Isn't that a form of LYING?

Yes, the "bald-faced" form.

[BoddaH1994]

Don't forget that, although it would be ideal for you to attend the meeting, you can also reach the Mason City Council at 513-229-8500 or by email at council@masonoh.org. Make sure to tell them that you are against Tony "Tax Man" Bradburn and let us know how it goes!

[windshawne]

Calling is a good idea, however a personal visit is pretty effective too I'm in!!

[Captain Picard]

I am on my City Council and there is 6 votes. If it's a 3 to 3 vote the Mayor cast the tie breaker vote. When the Mayor here tries to get an Ordinance pasted without many knowing about it it's because there will be no support for it. I will go out and let people know whats up and they come to the meeting and complain. The other Council members get to hear what people think and it all ends as fast as it started.

When you go to this meeting I think you can be there till the meeting starts and you will be asked to leave. It don't happen much here so I am not 100% on if and when you leave. I know when there are people that show up they get to say what they want before we start our meetings.