Mr. Fusion Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 (edited) I'm sure a lot of you have heard about the recent blackouts in the Northeast. If PKI has a black out, how do they take care of it? Edited January 1, 1970 by fusiondude09 Quote
Beastfreak Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 Its happened before. Last year actually. Basically, there is nothing they can do about. You will have a bunch of ****ed of people who can't do anything because there is no power. Can't get food cause cause we can't turn anything on.... la la la.. I think in that case PKI would actually distribute "rain checks" even though it is against their policy. Quote
AZ Kinda Guy Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 (edited) Beastfreak hit it right on the head. Not much they can do until power is restored. From a rides POV, I can tell you that the rides would be evacuated just like they normally are. Nothing out of the ordinary. Edited January 1, 1970 by AZ Kinda Guy Quote
adam12 Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 As much money as they bring down, they should have "backup" power. They could even make a little money on the side by selling it to the power company. They could at least have backup power for the rides. Not to run them, but just enough to get the trains back to the station and get people off the rides. Posted by adam12 on 08-15-2003 Quote
7D Rules Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 I read that there were blackouts in some parts of Ohio. Were any of the parks in Ohio affected? Quote
teenageninja Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 You could not have a backup power plant that would be money worthy. KI doesn't lose power that often, and it would be a very expensive system to work out. Don't count on that happening soon. Quote
BoddaH1994 Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 I read that there were blackouts in some parts of Ohio. Were any of the parks in Ohio affected? Yes, the northern part of Ohio. Areas like Toledo and Cleveland. Quote
bignathan4403 Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 I read that there were blackouts in some parts of Ohio. Were any of the parks in Ohio affected? Yes, the northern part of Ohio. Areas like Toledo and Cleveland. So, were CP and SFWOA affected? What happend over at those places, maby we'll see it on the news sometime soon? Quote
lisacor Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 CP Was affected from what I was told. I am not sure of the exact details though but someone told me they lost power. Quote
Solid Snake Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 CP was affected... I was there. It was my first time up there too. Quote
SixFlagsMasta Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 i'm wonderin though if like a ride loses power how are the brakes gonna work for all those that aren't magnetic. like the friction brakes wouldn't be able to close to stop the train Quote
Solid Snake Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 Raptor stopped on the breaks. They had a charry picker helping the people out. Most walked down the steps. M:XL was stuck on the lift. That is all I could see. Quote
YarzRevenge Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 The Power is used to keep the breaks open (off), if a power failure hapens on a rollercoaster all the brakes come on. safety first... Marz Yar Quote
BoddaH1994 Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 I read that there were blackouts in some parts of Ohio. Were any of the parks in Ohio affected? Yes, the northern part of Ohio. Areas like Toledo and Cleveland. So, were CP and SFWOA affected? What happend over at those places, maby we'll see it on the news sometime soon? I wouldn't doubt it. There hasn't been anything on the news about it or anything as far as I know. Quote
Solid Snake Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 Buddah, I already told him yes, that CP was effected . Quote
Xtremejulia Posted August 16, 2003 Posted August 16, 2003 yeah...i dont know exactly what was up with this... but a couple weeks ago at slingshot (not the ride itself, as i am in games and work the register and record the flights) all our power died, and then a few days ago all our credit card machines throughout the whole park died for whatever reason. that doesnt really effect the whole park though, just the games department and not even that bad at that. Quote
Mr. Fusion Posted August 16, 2003 Author Posted August 16, 2003 (edited) There hasn't been anything on the news about it or anything as far as I know. Click Here Scroll down to "East Coast power outage strands park guests ". Edited January 1, 1970 by fusiondude09 Quote
Beastfreak Posted August 16, 2003 Posted August 16, 2003 The braking systems on coasters are designed to stop a train at any "block" brake if there is a power failure. In the brake's natural point (power off, or as delivered from manufacturer), the brake pads are held in the closed position through some spring like device. The brakes only open to allow a train to pass when power is delivered to the air compressors which then use compressed air to force back the springs and open the brakes. So, in a power outage, the air compressors do not work, they loose pressure and the brakes close as a result, stopping the train. Quote
Mr. Fusion Posted August 17, 2003 Author Posted August 17, 2003 If there was a blackout and a coaster was on a lift hill, do chain dogs on the cars stop the train from a roll-back? Quote
BoObKiNoS Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 The braking systems on coasters are designed to stop a train at any "block" brake if there is a power failure. In the brake's natural point (power off, or as delivered from manufacturer), the brake pads are held in the closed position through some spring like device. The brakes only open to allow a train to pass when power is delivered to the air compressors which then use compressed air to force back the springs and open the brakes. So, in a power outage, the air compressors do not work, they loose pressure and the brakes close as a result, stopping the train. Actaully this is incorrect on Arrow coasters. Express, Gun, and Vortex use 'air bags'. When inflated with air, the brakes close, and once air is let loose, the brakes open...hence chain and chalking trains. BUT in a power outage you dont loose air pressure, just the ability to pressurize more air. Quote
Tanner Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 There hasn't been anything on the news about it or anything as far as I know. Click Here Scroll down to "East Coast power outage strands park guests ". Wow would I have loved to be there! Free food at an Amusement Park, sounds amazing! Quote
Solid Snake Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 Wow would I have loved to be there! Free food at an Amusement Park, sounds amazing! It wasn't free. The only thing free was water and I think ice cream... Quote
Mr. Fusion Posted August 17, 2003 Author Posted August 17, 2003 Still, free ice cream at a theme park.... Quote
Solid Snake Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 They had to get rid of it... no power to keep it cool... uh oh! Quote
FOF Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 If there was a blackout and a coaster was on a lift hill, do chain dogs on the cars stop the train from a roll-back? Yes they do thats the whole point of them. You dont roll back when the lift stops do you? The lift chain could snap and the train not move backwards (maybe a few inches untill the dogs caught the anti roll backs) Quote
BoddaH1994 Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 Yeah, they all have anti-rollback mechanisms. It makes it nearly impossible for a train to go backwards down the tow hills. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the concept is the work of John A. Miller. That's part of the reason why you hear a clinking noise while being towed up a hill. Quote
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