The Interpreter Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 No worries. Season pass prices are VERY affordable. A whole season of keeping 'em occupied for less than the price of a day of babysitting. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kblanken Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 What do they do after the park closes, at what is it, 7pm? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I steer clear of Louisville as a whole as much as possible. And oh yeah, Go Cats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The Interpreter, A season pass to The Beach Waterpark for 2015 is about the equivalent, perhaps even less, than a day of babysitting. Perhaps we should be tossed into the category you've created for Kentucky Kingdom too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 That depends. How much capital re-investment are you planning? How many PR snafus have you had this summer? Are you in the middle of a sketchy urban neighborhood? Are you operating on loans backed by the park's real estate, which is owned by a government? Do you pay way below market rent? Has the park filed bankruptcy before? Have you, in this summer, misrepresented your admission price for a 10 day event, then have to honor that price if bought "in advance" at a local grocery store when that price was supposed to have stopped just before the event started? Did you get a sweet deal with your landlord by having a former high Democrat official and Mitch McConnell opponent (and chum of the Governor) as your business partner? Is your park's reopening likely going to be a statewide political issue next year? Has a local councilman said he's glad you are open so the local kids can come instead of going to a movie or breaking into cars? And, most of all... Have you considered The Beach's season passes just may well be underpriced? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I think that about sums it up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastForever Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Wait. I'm confused... So the user named 'The Beach Waterpark' isn't officially representing The Beach Waterpark is he/she/it? Who is we? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoChickens Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 A Geico commercial just came to mind. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastForever Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yes, I know. The answer is obvious, I just don't think the user should be using 'we' unless he/she is actually representing the park... EDIT: I just found it odd that someone from The Beach would bother to post here, which is why I assumed it wasn't an official rep... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoraX Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 From looking at previous posts it appears the person posting as The Beach Waterpark is a representative of the park. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoor Man Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Sounds like a place I want to visit! Amid lovely children who would otherwise be breaking into cars. Should they decide that the admission price is too steep, they could have a field day in the parking lot! that's great. Good to have you thinking out there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 New for KK in 2015...bulldozers. Also stated in another thread, but this one seems more relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 ^ Only with Fair Board approval... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Today this thread is exactly four years old. Wow. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The edit to the original post is also rather interesting. To put it mildly. My thoughts on the future of Kentucky Kingdom are based on many years of observing the industry, and, perhaps more importantly, Kentucky politics. Cue up, Maestro, Messrs Hart and Lunsford asking the Fair Board for more lease concessions to make more "re-investment" in the park possible. That's coming next, and, given that 2015 is an odd numbered year coming a year before one divisible by 4, the request must be made now to avoid the political heat somewhat. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Holy edit of the original post. I guess you read into what you want to see while ignoring facts. Sccard really believes he is the only one who believes in and wants the park to survive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 And now the lead bank financing Kentucky Kingdom is selling out to BB&T: http://m.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2014/09/08/heres-why-bank-of-kentuckys-founder-decided-to.html?ana=e_du_wknd&s=article_du&ed=2014-09-13&u=pB2D54PrJ4m+tf5T51zZ5o6bDaJ&t=1410616710&r=full 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Sccard really believes he is the only one who believes in and wants the park to survive. There aren't a WHOLE lot of us that really believe in the park much. It's not that they can't survive, but they need to make some major changes - and fast. If things continue as they are, then I really do think the park's days are numbered. However, there is at least one other guy here (me) who really loves that park, and truly and honestly WANTS it to succeed. A successful Kentucky Kingdom is good for the park industry. Competition drives innovation. And plus, I just genuinely really enjoy the rides and attractions at that park. Do I want it to fail? No. A BIG no. I want them to stick around forever. More fun coasters to ride in the region is always better than less. Basically, I'm hopeful, but not optimistic. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 As I have stated here before, I went to Kentucky Kingdom 33 times in 1998, and I lived three and a half hours away. I, too, want Kentucky Kingdom to succeed. That being said, I think this latest effort is nothing more than a political stunt on one side, and an attempt to make a fortune by selling out the park (again) on the other. Both sides have long histories of this. One definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result: * The location hasn't changed. * The politics of having to deal with the Fair Boatd hasn't changed. * The undercapitalization hasn't changed. * The poor operations hasn't changed. * The poor marketing hasn't changed. What has: * The park business has gotten a whole lot tougher. * People have less disposable income. * School calendars are much less favorable. * Expenses, including labor and insurance, have risen dramatically. * The park has gotten a bad safety reputation, largely from the Six Flags Drop Tower incident (so new management installs one!?!) * The new park's lender, the ONLY one willing to lend for the park (and even it refused to lend the requested amount, this WITH the loan backed by the Commonwealth owned park real estate--a luxury Six Flags never had here) is being sold to a large out of state bank--likely taking prospects of future additional finacimg with it. What may change: - With the Kentucky Kingdom reopening being very politically unpopular in rural Kentucky, there is a good chance it will be a central political issue in the 2015 Kentucky Governor's race, plus those for state house and senate seats. If the Democrats lose, it may be watch while Katy bars the Kingdom doors... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuskin Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 As I have stated here before, I went to Kentucky Kingdom 33 times in 1998, and I lived three and a half hours away. I, too, want Kentucky Kingdom to succeed. That being said, I think this latest effort is nothing more than a political stunt on one side, and an attempt to make a fortune by selling out the park (again) on the other. Both sides have long histories of this. One definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result: * The location hasn't changed. * The politics of having to deal with the Fair Boatd hasn't changed. * The undercapitalization hasn't changed. * The poor operations hasn't changed. * The poor marketing hasn't changed. What has: * The park business has gotten a whole lot tougher. * People have less disposable income. * School calendars are much less favorable. * Expenses, including labor and insurance, have risen dramatically. * The park has gotten a bad safety reputation, largely from the Six Flags Drop Tower incident (so new management installs one!?!) * The new park's lender, the ONLY one willing to lend for the park (and even it refused to lend the requested amount, this WITH the loan backed by the Commonwealth owned park real estate--a luxury Six Flags never had here) is being sold to a large out of state bank--likely taking prospects of future additional finacimg with it. What may change: - With the Kentucky Kingdom reopening being very politically unpopular in rural Kentucky, there is a good chance it will be a central political issue in the 2015 Kentucky Governor's race, plus those for state house and senate seats. If the Democrats lose, it may be watch while Katy bars the Kingdom doors... Many may ask: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccard01 Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 This is probably the best wave pool in the midwest...but that is just my opinion... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The videographer's favorite wave pool is... as Holiday World! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Heard in the halls at Frankfort: Rumor A: Hart's New Kentucky Kingdom will stay open October weekends because attendance has been so great and they want to show their appreciation. Admission $9.95, but only if purchased in advance at Kroger. Rumor B: The park will open October weekends in an attempt to improve the balance sheet. I suspect neither rumor is true, as October weekends with no BooFest are highly unlikely to be profitable with the current Louisville Park offerings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Even freaking Camden Park has a BooFest. It blows my mind that they couldn't manage to put SOMETHING together. It really puts into perspective the state of things there. I would hardly think Camden is a park with an enormous budget, and yet they manage... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Is it really true there are only two more days to Kentucky Kingdom's 2o14 season? Really? Terp, who likes to ask questions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I am HIGHLY considering visiting the park this Sunday, on Kentucky Kingdom's last operating day of the 2014 season. .....And yes, as Terp stated above, it is THE LAST day of the 2014 operating season at Kentucky Kingdom. Yes, really. (Unfortunately) If we'd just all open up our Hart, and stay open (maybe for some BooFest?) for a few weekends in October......Oh Wait..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPKI Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 2015 announcement forthcoming: tomorrow, 9/25, at 1:30 pm. http://www.wave3.com/story/26619225/kentucky-kingdom-to-announce-new-attractions 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 They are learning. At least it's Thursday. Should have been right before season passes went on sale though.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoF96" Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 If you all haven't picked up yet this is what I was referencing in my last post to this thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I certainly hope so. It's high time Messrs Hart and Lunsford put some more of their own money into the park. People forget both are shrewd, VERY wealthy businessmen. Both made much of their fortune using other people's money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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