KILateNighter Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Hey I just wanted to bring this up since there hasn't been much talk about it lately, does anyone know whats wrong with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I wouldn't necessarily assume it's broken*... Terp, who really shouldn't say more broken: not operable, in a state of disrepair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 It's a lot less expensive to play a CD rather than repairing and maintaining the instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkiboy Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 May I advise you to take a Trip to Lake Compounce. Ride there Carousel One of the best ones I've ridden on the East Coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Well if it were "broken", then they do not want to spend the money to get it fixed. There are several people in town that can fix them, these pictures were taken in a shop on Madison Rd. Player piano band " an actual Kinzelodian.....I meant nickelodeon >" Center peace to the three peace band organ >" ID tag on center peace. >"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldiesmann Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I have no idea how much of this (if any) is true, but I did some research on it earlier in the year. According to YouTube user Wurlitzer157, an organ expert who has posted a few short videos of the band organ from 2005, at one time there was a dedicated park employee whose sole job was to maintain/repair the organ as needed. At some point, it was decided to contract this out to Stinson, and the organ was repaired yearly (or possibly even monthly). In 2006, with the park up for sale, Paramount decided not to spend the money to have the organ repaired. Supposedly the "guts" of the organ are stored in Flight of Fear's bowl and it would cost around $3,000 just to repair it (but even more to fully restore it). I did ask about this back in May when the park was doing the 5@5 thing on Facebook, but the people handling that didn't get a chance to research it before the feature was abruptly ended. Regardless of what the actual status of the organ is, it is indeed cheaper to just play a CD than to restore the organ and keep it maintained. However, I don't think the cause is hopeless. During my research on the issue (yes, I had a bit too much time on my hands...), I found out about the National Carousel Association, which actually offers grants to help cover the cost of preserving and restoring carousels. So, basically we need to do two things: 1. Convince the park and/or CF to apply for a grant (I'm sure the project would qualify, especially given the carousel's historical significance) 2. Convince CF to spend the money necessary to continue maintaining the carousel. The second part would be the most difficult. We all know that Kinzel is a cheapskate, and of course CF does have quite a bit of debt to pay off, but it's at least something to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 A post so nice, he made it twice: I wouldn't necessarily assume it's broken*... Terp, who really shouldn't say more broken: not operable, in a state of disrepair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldiesmann Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 If it's not broken then CF needs to find the $ to maintain it so they can put it back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Perhaps were one of the two proposals whose record date is day after tomorrow actually enacted, an organ would play in Mason, Ohio not all that far from the Losantiville Station of the K.I. & M. V. R.R., but certain other things would also have to happen for that to occur...Note I said enacted, not just passed....in general, limited partnerships are run differently than corporations, but do certain parties realize that fully? An interesting Q that... Terp, who notes in passing that the sonorous sounds of a new CEO may very well bring many things....or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74Gibson Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I've heard talk that someone closely involved in the decision to use this organ is a collector of such organs. So far, I don't think I need to watch my words as closely as others here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurlitzer157 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I'm Wurlitzer 157 from youtube. The organ is in bad shape. I sent out plenty of emails to Kings Island about this The organ's specs: Bass - 6 wood trombones; 6 stopped diapason pipes; 6 stopped octave daipason pipes. Accompaniments - 10 stopped flute pipes; 10 open flute pipes; 10 open piccolo pipes; 10 open piccolo pipes. Melody - 44 violin pipes; 22 octave pipes; 22 piccolo pipes; 22 open flute pipes; 22 stopped flute pipes; 16 bar bells. Trumpets - 14 wood trumpets; 14 wood clarinets. Traps - bass drum; snare drum; cymbal; triangle; double castanets; tympani. Automatic stops - 1 for bells; 1 for swell and wood trombones. Draw stops - 1 for wood trombones; 1 for wood trumpets; 1 for violins; 1 for flutes; 1 for piccolos.The Wurlitzer 157 stands nearly 8½ feet tall, over 12 feet wide and nearly 4 feet deep. There's an organ just like this at Knott's Berry Farm which hasn't played for nearly 25 years Both organs have the same specs except the one at Knotts is in much worse condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurlitzer157 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Also, Paramount didn't remove the organ from the carousel, Cedar Fair did. Plus the organ was still working fine then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 And it may not be not operational now... Terp, carefully stating...things...you might want to ask Mr. Kinzel about that organ...then again, perhaps it resigned.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurlitzer157 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 And it may not be not operational now... Terp, carefully stating...things...you might want to ask Mr. Kinzel about that organ...then again, perhaps it resigned.... Infact Mr.Kinzel is the one who made the decision to remove the organs... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurlitzer157 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Well if it were "broken", then they do not want to spend the money to get it fixed. There are several people in town that can fix them, these pictures were taken in a shop on Madison Rd. Player piano band " an actual Kinzelodian.....I meant nickelodeon >" Center peace to the three peace band organ >" ID tag on center peace. >"> The Last two pictures are of a 157, do you know where this one is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Is he a secret band organ collector? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 And it may not be not operational now... Terp, carefully stating...things...you might want to ask Mr. Kinzel about that organ...then again, perhaps it resigned.... Infact Mr.Kinzel is the one who made the decision to remove the organs... You might want to interpret things more closely...more than that I will not say, I have said more than enough already... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldiesmann Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Well if it were "broken", then they do not want to spend the money to get it fixed. There are several people in town that can fix them, these pictures were taken in a shop on Madison Rd. Player piano band " an actual Kinzelodian.....I meant nickelodeon >" Center peace to the three peace band organ >" ID tag on center peace. >"> The Last two pictures are of a 157, do you know where this one is? Note the last sentence before the pictures: "These pictures were taken in a shop on Madison Rd" A quick Google search turns up the following business: Player Piano Shop 2025 Madison Road Cincinnati, Ohio 45208 This is in the O'Bryonville area (between East Walnut Hills and Hyde Park). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 And it may not be not operational now... Terp, carefully stating...things...you might want to ask Mr. Kinzel about that organ...then again, perhaps it resigned.... Infact Mr.Kinzel is the one who made the decision to remove the organs... You might want to interpret things more closely...more than that I will not say, I have said more than enough already... Are you saying what I think you're saying right now, Terp?! Falfas resigned (or whatever Q wants to call it) and took the organ with him?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Mr. Falfas was employed at Cedar Fair headquarters, which is at Cedar Point...he was not instrumental in things Kings Island on a day to day basis...and higher ups sometimes find it easier to....face the music. Terp, trying hard to be neither two punny nor two trying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Well if it were "broken", then they do not want to spend the money to get it fixed. There are several people in town that can fix them, these pictures were taken in a shop on Madison Rd. Player piano band " an actual Kinzelodian.....I meant nickelodeon >" Center peace to the three peace band organ >" ID tag on center peace. >"> The Last two pictures are of a 157, do you know where this one is? Note the last sentence before the pictures: "These pictures were taken in a shop on Madison Rd" A quick Google search turns up the following business: Player Piano Shop 2025 Madison Road Cincinnati, Ohio 45208 This is in the O'Bryonville area (between East Walnut Hills and Hyde Park). Thank you Oldiesman, they also have a shop downtown at 611 Main St. Good people all of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 And now that the organ has returned... Terp, as ever, choosing his words carefully. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldiesmann Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Looks like the shop mentioned in my previous post in this topic has since moved to downtown... http://www.theplayerpianoshop.com Street View of the address on Madison Road shows what appears to be a vacant storefront with a sign saying "The Player Piano Shop" above the door. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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