darkmarkman Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 To be in the kids section of the park, this ride is awesome. I personally feel that this ride should qualify as a "shuttle coaster", but I guess my opinion on the matter won't make this ride KI's 15th active coaster. Quote
The Interpreter Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Kings Island calls it a coaster....and counts Racer as one, not two. Quote
jdawg1998 Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Sorry, but what was your point in making a whole topic on this? Quote
darkmarkman Posted March 20, 2011 Author Posted March 20, 2011 Just talking about a ride that I really enjoy. Quote
KIfan73 Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 I do wish their was one on the "adult" side of the park. One of the most underrated and, probably, overlooked rides (as far as thrill seekers go) in the park. Quote
rotag Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 it reminds me of the bowling ball game @ ki, chuck e cheese, arcades, ect. Quote
Dieseltech20 Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 My wife rode this last season, scared her to death, and she has been on DB, lol. She was white as a ghost walking off of it. Quote
Snowman Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 Kings Island calls it a coaster....and counts Racer as one, not two. This is an interesting point you make sir. After all Racer has 2 coasters, 2 colors, 2 complete circuit tracks, 2 paths( although mirrored). If you take the red track you get a view of the house of Spongebob, and the soon to open swingy thingy. If you take the blue track, you see storage, woods, and soon to open Flintstones on steroids (for free, and you won't have to walk). Should be 2 coasters. Quote
IndyGuy4KI Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 I love it, and even if I don't have my son with me I try to make it over to that end of the park to ride it. Quote
rcs Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 Hope to ride it this year when my family makes its now yearly trek to KI. Darn thing was down all day when we were there last year. And that ride actually looks pretty intense to be in the kids part of the park. Quote
supergreek35 Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 its considered at Skater Coaster by Zamperla. The park also considers Flying Ace to be a coaster and as well as Woodstock Express. Quote
BavarianBeatle Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 It should not be counted as a coaster, IMO. As a wiser member of this site once pointed out, it rolls, but it doesn't coast. Quote
AintNutinElse2Do Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 I could justify calling it a coaster. Example, Blazing Fury at Dollywood, cars on a track with a motor pushing them for the majority of the ride. Surf dog also a car on a track with a motor that not only pushes but turns the vehicle. Both have drops of similar heights, both are powered, one does more with layout the other more with the ride vehicle. Why consider one a coaster and not the other? Superman at SFMM goes up further but does less with layout and has similar track structure though it uses it power differently. That said I don't like to consider Surf Dog a coaster in the same sense I would Racer or Diamondback. Just like I don't like putting New Texas Giant in the same class as Intimidator or even the same class as Thunderhead. There's always going to be some who say it should be one thing, and often they will have valid reasons why, then there's the others. Personally I'd love to see it broken down like the Westminster dog show. Best of breed then best of group then best of show. Quote
The Interpreter Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 ...Personally I'd love to see it broken down like.... ..an INTAMIN its first couple of seasons? (Volcano: The Blast Coaster, Top Thrill Dragster, Kingda Ka, Maverick,...) Terpy, who just HAD to Quote
Coaster Kid Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Havent we already disscused this already? Quote
standbyme Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 ^Yes we have...long ago. (And now that I have added that, we can now say that we have discussed this being discussed before.) Quote
74Gibson Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I would like to add to that discussion as I too remember it being discussed. Surf dog is awesome. Totally under-rated. Get a seat on the outside of one of the ends and enjoy. Quote
bkroz Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Does Cedar Fair also consider California's Great America's Tiki Twirl (formerly Survivor: The Ride) a roller coaster? And honestly, why shouldn't it be? Who invented the precise definition of a roller coaster? And does it even matter if it's one? Does it change anything? GYK, a student of science who saw every text book in America pulled and re-printed when someone somewhere decided that Pluto no longer fit some definition that some seemingly anonymous group has decided on to classify a "planet"... Only to have that same group of someones change their mind just over a year later*. * And invent a new designation, 'dwarf planet.' Poor Pluto didn't change a bit through the whole process. But the semantics of something so inconsequential brought about a lot more debate, financial expenditure, and confusion than were ever required! Would anyone here have more fun on Surf Dog if they knew that some roller coaster community agreed on it's official status as a roller coaster? Quote
AintNutinElse2Do Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Maybe we could just start calling the almost roller coasters "pluto coasters." Quote
MrSaturdayNite Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Maybe we could just start calling the almost roller coasters "pluto coasters." Nah, Disney would sue. Just had to. Quote
darkmarkman Posted March 23, 2011 Author Posted March 23, 2011 I made a poll so we could debate this democratically. http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23549 Quote
Aaron88stang Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Kings Island calls it a coaster....and counts Racer as one, not two. which makes no sense twice. Quote
CedarPointer Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 http://www.zamperla.com/en/category/index/id/5 PRODUCTS > ROLLER COASTER > Disk'O Coaster Quote
Aaron88stang Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 http://www.zamperla....gory/index/id/5 PRODUCTS > ROLLER COASTER > Disk'O Coaster I guess it is indeed marketed as a coaster, but it is still debatable if it actually is a coaster. Quote
The Interpreter Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Maybe we could just start calling the almost roller coasters "pluto coasters." Nah, Disney would sue. Just had to. That's Goofy. Terp, who just had to, too. Quote
RaptorGuy Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Surf Dog is NOT a duck! It is not controlled by gravity what so ever. When it goes up one side, it has a slight hesitation before coming back, and you don't freefall down. It would be awesome if it DID do that, but it doesn't. It's a great flat ride, though! I wish they would make it spin more and they could if it were an adult thrill ride. But, a coaster it definitely is NOT! Quote
ParkMake Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 I agree with Raptor. A Roller Coaster uses gravity to power it most of the way. A flat ride, even a tracked flat ride, uses a motor to keep it going. That's also why Tumble Bugs are flat rides though in every other sense they may be called a coaster. Quote
XGatorHead 8904 Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 ^Excellent call with the tumblebug aspect of the argument! I wish I had thought of that. I used to love the two (adult & kiddie) that KI used to have. A few of us from KIC got a ride in on Stricker's kiddie one last year, The Turtles. That was my first ride on one in quite a while! Quote
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