Original Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I rode disaster transport today. It was kind of boring but I really enjoyed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 This one has everybody stumped. ^^Their was most likely nothing major wrong with Wildcat that forced them to take it out. It was due to the cramping of the new Luminosity midway. (Which looks awful, BTW) Wildcat was testing just days prior to opening day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomTheater Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Fly Dispacth Master Transport. "We get you there in 15 min or you don't get there at all" "Dispatch Master Transport I'm losing control!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 This one has everybody stumped. ^^Their was most likely nothing major wrong with Wildcat that forced them to take it out. It was due to the cramping of the new Luminosity midway. (Which looks awful, BTW) Wildcat was testing just days prior to opening day. And was already inspected and approved by the State. This leads me to believe Mr. Ouimet and/or John Hildebrandt (sp?) looked at the midway and said "Oh crap, this is too cramped." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 ^ Just so I don't misunderstand- you believe that after: winter rehab, including WC on the map, setting it up for normal operation, Luminosity construction on the midway, placement of the cars back on the track, state approval, testing with employees- Mr. Ouimet/ Mr. John Hildebrandt suddenly had a revelation (as opposed to the engineers that actually do this type of work for CP) that: "Oh crap, this is too cramped". Okay..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick00 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 That's exactly how it happened. Nothing was wrong with the ride. It was going to go anyway so they took it out a year or two earlier because it was cramped. And if you've been this year, you know that area would look 10 times worse if WC was there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Cedar Point, to me did not want a cramped area for guests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 ^^ If there was nothing wrong with it, why scrap it out as opposed to moving it somewhere? -also- If it was all tested & ready for the season, why not operate it for a few weeks given Luminosity did not start until June? They could have easily had a charity benefit a la DT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Picard Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 My guess is that they think they have a world class park and a portable piece of junk sitting there didn't fit that description. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick00 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 ^^ If there was nothing wrong with it, why scrap it out as opposed to moving it somewhere? -also- If it was all tested & ready for the season, why not operate it for a few weeks given Luminosity did not start until June? They could have easily had a charity benefit a la DT. Because it was a very old ride that was going to be scrapped in a couple years anyway. They couldn't operate it for a few weeks because it had to be dismantled while the park is closed and they had to prepare that area for when Lumimosity starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 Because it was a very old ride that was going to be scrapped in a couple years anyway. They couldn't operate it for a few weeks because it had to be dismantled while the park is closed and they had to prepare that area for when Lumimosity starts. Yes, even according to CF's press release, it was on the chopping block- just not for this year.The park closed the end of October 2011. Luminosity has been planned much longer than that. They go through all the motions to have it open, then a handful of days prior to opening day, suddenly decide more room is needed? Okay.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick00 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 It really hasn't been planned that long. Ouimet was in the park one night and said there needed to be more night life and Luminosity was born. That probly happened around July then by the time everything is planned out its probly around October or November. They probly thought they could make it work with WC but the fact is, they didn't have 3 years to plan it and make corrections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I'll be at CP on Saturday getting my last few rides on Disaster Transport. I will miss the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 The problem with CP is that they have used up all there space (to my knowlege). So if they want a new ride in they will have to take one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 CP has more room than you think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 ^ Just so I don't misunderstand- you believe that after: winter rehab, including WC on the map, setting it up for normal operation, Luminosity construction on the midway, placement of the cars back on the track, state approval, testing with employees- Mr. Ouimet/ Mr. John Hildebrandt suddenly had a revelation (as opposed to the engineers that actually do this type of work for CP) that: "Oh crap, this is too cramped". Okay..... Luminosity's construction continued after Wildcat was cleared by the state, and as it continued they realized that the space was too small. I remember reading somewhere that Ouimet said he did not like the old looking coaster right across from the new stage and that the area looked cramp, thus taking it out. There was not structural damage to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 ^ Have a link for that info? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWBeast1039 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Also, imagine trying to wait in line or even get to wildcat while the show was going on. They would probably close it for the show like they do with Iron Dragon. I'm no wiz when it comes to this stuff, or much anything, but Wildcat had more going against it than for it. Wildcat, being a portable coaster that doesn't take much to remove, was probably a wildcard when they planned Luminosity. If it looked good with the stage, great. If it looked too cramped, no big whoop, remove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Maybe they were testing it for scrap or as a Diversion . Me pulling a terpy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Through the grapevine: CF has trademarked "Gold Striker". http://tarr.uspto.go...&entry=85686395 or is it StratoSoar? http://tess2.uspto.g...4009:ratjgi.2.1 You can see in the above link, the trademark was abandoned (the name was believed to be for WindSeeker), but I would believe it could still be used. Or did they plan it this way, and "Gold Striker" for GA since the park's future is no longer in doubt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastrider97 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Through the grapevine: CF has trademarked "Gold Striker". http://tarr.uspto.go...&entry=85686395 Doesn't seem to fit with the whole theme the new ride is going for. Maybe CGA's new ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick00 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Ya that'll be for California's Great America's wooden coaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Woah! FUN actually patented a name?! I can't remember seeing a little R by Diamondback or Delirium! In fact, the only one I see is on The Beast station signs. Typical Cedar Fair, always picking dem terrible names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 CF has more trademarks than you think: http://www.trademarkia.com/company-cedar-fair-lp-222594-page-3-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_SoB_fan Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Woah! FUN actually patented a name?! I can't remember seeing a little R by Diamondback or Delirium! In fact, the only one I see is on The Beast station signs. Typical Cedar Fair, always picking dem terrible names. Delirum was Paramount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 But FUN could have easily put a trademark on the name Delirium. Browntiggrr, many of those trademarks are dead, and really, only 2 are Kings Island-specific trademarks: The Beast (trademarked under Paramount, by the way) and Kings Island. That's it. Also, apparently FUN still owns the rights to Nights of Fire. Why isn't the 4 of July week(end) called Nights of Fire? It's still a live patent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 ^You post was not about KI's trademarks but CF's (FUN). Woah! FUN actually patented a name?! Reading the fine print is as important as meaning what you write...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Kings Island is part of Cedar Fair, and this board is about Kongs Island, is it not? I guess I should have added "and how many patents were filed for Cedar Fair's Kings Island?" or something to the effect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick00 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I find it interesting that Cedar Fair trademarked "America's Roller Coast" and "The Roller Coaster Capital of the World" so I guess no one else can steal that, even if Cedar Point only has 15 and SFMM has 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Kings Island is part of Cedar Fair, and this board is about Kongs Island, is it not? No, this board is not about Kongs Island. - Brown. Who's point was just proven......... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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