SonofBaconator Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Today for about ten minutes out of the bell, our teachers told us our safety procedures if some armed person or stranger entered the building. We were told the usual sit in the corner routine but this time we were told that if someone entered the room, we had to throw stuff at them and try to subdue them or'tranquilize" them. That got me thinking. Since the metal detectors are gone I got to thinking of safety threats at Kings Island and the procedures that the guests would have to be safe. Even though there is an increase in security, there's always a threat. What safety procedures can you guys come up with if Kings Island, God forbid, ever had an armed intruder(s) arrive at the park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg1998 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I would just hide in one of the stores. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Run away and let security/police deal with it? (It is a large park, after all...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 The threat is the same as always, as the metal detectors were rarely on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool75 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Today for about ten minutes out of the bell, our teachers told us our safety procedures if some armed person or stranger entered the building. We were told the usual sit in the corner routine but this time we were told that if someone entered the room, we had to throw stuff at them and try to subdue them or'tranquilize" them. That got me thinking. Since the metal detectors are gone I got to thinking of safety threats at Kings Island and the procedures that the guests would have to be safe. Even though there is an increase in security, there's always a threat. What safety procedures can you guys come up with if Kings Island, God forbid, ever had an armed intruder(s) arrive at the park? I am really shocked they would advise students to this. Not very responsible on the schools part. Doing this may trigger someone to attack or open fire on such students. My motto. "Get the hell out of there any means possible" yes that include going through glass windows. I would rather take my chances with safety glass than a bullet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI-ORIG-EMP Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 This is why I am in favor of teachers being permitted to have a conceal carry permit with extensive training by police in the use of the firearm. As it is now, it might have signs stating that it is a "no firearm" facility, it only means the intruder has a clear access to do harm until the time police do arrive, which would be too late for the ones shot and or killed. It is not like you go into a firearm store and buy a handgun and put it on your person and then think it will be ok. You have to have the approved training in its use and continued practice at the weapon range. I still refuse to call a weapon as a "gun" ever since I took my combat basic training at Fort Jackson and our DI would get in our face if we ever called it a "gun." As for Kings Island, we do have our own police that are armed and they are stationed at the front gate entrance and other places in the park, along with assistance from Mason PD on crowded days. I know some people would be up in arms over having teachers armed but it is better than having students hauled out in body bags. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 What could potentially be in between you and the window? The criminal. If that is the case, I would rather throw a desk at the guy and then run, rather than pray he/she doesn't kill me while I'm helplessly sitting in a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI-ORIG-EMP Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I would rather after a panic switch is pressed, a couple well armed and trained teachers with their hand gun in between me and the criminal. It might take several minutes for the police to respond and then time to locate their armed intruder, all time for the intruder to cause deadly harm. You can have the school's entrances redesigned to prevent unauthorized guests, but it only takes one person to sneak in from a soft spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Are there really still schools where you don't have to enter through the office? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI-ORIG-EMP Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Schools still have side entrances that an intruder would wait for a student to exit from and then once inside the school, they are free to conduct mayhem. There are always soft spots that the criminal will look for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastrider97 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 At our schools, the lockdown procedure is much different from the previous, "Hide, lock the door, hope they go away" plan. Now the plan is, basically, do what you think is what you should do to survive. Whether that is run, hide, or fight. Honestly, the school is so large that if someone came in the opposite side of the building, it makes more sense to leave than lock the classroom door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 Are there really still schools where you don't have to enter through the office? The main entrance is in the front of the school where the lobby is and the attendance office is right next to the lobby. There are glass windows in the attendance office has glass windows outside the lobby so they can see anything in the lobby. Also, the main doors are open from i believe 7 to 7:40 then they lock them. The only way to get in then is through the attendance office door which has a buzzer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Are there really still schools where you don't have to enter through the office? Yes. In every school I went to, the main entrance, which was unlocked all day, went directly into a hallway. The main office was situated right next to the entrance, but you could simply walk down the hall if you wanted to. My high school had a small security booth positioned outside the main office in easy view of the entrance, but there was only one person in charge of operating that booth, and if he was busy with something else inside the office or in the bathroom, then nobody was in the booth for a few minutes. OTOH, my high school also had a city police officer on premises at all times when school was in session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI-ORIG-EMP Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 In my when I went to school, none of these safety procedures were in place. You could enter via any door. With the schools today, all doors other than the front doors in the lobby, should have panic alarms that sound when they are opened. They are to be used as emergency exits only and not as an entrance or exit for students to use. If a door is opened, besides the alarm, an alarm should go on in the office to show the door that has been opened. Teachers and other authorized users should have either a key card and or an electronic lock that records who opened the door. When I worked at FedEx, all of our entrances and exits had card key access for its employees and a separate secure lobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 plus we have 2 cops there 24/7 to ensure our safety. Now back to Kings Island.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterGeek101 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Everybody streaks towards the basements in a thunderstorm, thats all I know about safety procedures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg1998 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 ^Everyone takes their clothes off and runs? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windshawne Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 If you do run, make sure you run in a zig zag fashion. Your chances of being struck by a bullet are much less than if you run straight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windshawne Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 If you do run, make sure you run in a zig zag fashion. Your chances of being struck by a bullet are much less than if you run straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI-ORIG-EMP Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Here is a thought. Grab a fire extinguisher and use it as a weapon to use against any intruder. If he is close enough, fire it into his face and or throw it and anything you can against him if you are cornered. But a solid defense would be a teacher with a concealed carry permit. Like a fire extinguisher is used in case of fire, a teach with a CCW can protect against a criminal with a weapon. He is counting on no one to oppose him and is why they kill and injure whoever they can. I know schools are against this but a well trained person in the use of a fire arm can help prior to the police coming on scene. The weapon can be locked in a secured place in the classroom and use when the need calls for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windshawne Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Here is a thought. Grab a fire extinguisher and use it as a weapon to use against any intruder. If he is close enough, fire it into his face and or throw it and anything you can against him if you are cornered. But a solid defense would be a teacher with a concealed carry permit. Like a fire extinguisher is used in case of fire, a teach with a CCW can protect against a criminal with a weapon. He is counting on no one to oppose him and is why they kill and injure whoever they can. I know schools are against this but a well trained person in the use of a fire arm can help prior to the police coming on scene. The weapon can be locked in a secured place in the classroom and use when the need calls for it. I'm cool with that. Unfortunately, the world is at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Here is a thought. Grab a fire extinguisher and use it as a weapon to use against any intruder. If he is close enough, fire it into his face and or throw it and anything you can against him if you are cornered. But a solid defense would be a teacher with a concealed carry permit. Like a fire extinguisher is used in case of fire, a teach with a CCW can protect against a criminal with a weapon. He is counting on no one to oppose him and is why they kill and injure whoever they can. I know schools are against this but a well trained person in the use of a fire arm can help prior to the police coming on scene. The weapon can be locked in a secured place in the classroom and use when the need calls for it. I have thought of that...... I'd run to either Boo Blasters or Picnic Grove if I was close to that area. Or I would just run to GWL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) Honestly, the detectors weren't doing anything whether they were on or not. The only thing detectors do is make worried people feel safer. Are there really still schools where you don't have to enter through the office? Many schools have many different entrances. Even if there was one entrance that entered through an office do you really think that is going to stop a crazed student with a gun? My high school was one of the ones that said to sit in the corner with the lights off until help arrives. Little did they know that if a real emergency did happen I was getting my girlfriend and I the hell out of the building. Edited October 26, 2012 by TTD-120-420 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Honestly, the detectors weren't doing anything whether they were on or not. The only thing detectors do is make worried people feel safer. Are there really still schools where you don't have to enter through the office? Many schools have many different entrances. Even if there was one entrance that entered through an office do you really think that is going to stop a crazed student with a gun? My high school was one of the ones that said to sit in the corner with the lights off until help arrives. Little did they know that if a real emergency did happen I was getting my girlfriend and I the hell out of the building. Grab a fire extinguisher while your at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofFirehawk Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I would go all Michael Westen on him. Just kidding I would run away and hide where it seems to be the most logical or where ever my mindless feet carry me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfanatic83 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 If someone were at my high school, I am busting out a window and driving home. If someone were at KI, I would get on WindSeeker. Good luck hitting me from down there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 One of my teachers had a baseball bat . Id proably hide in the flight deck area since not many people go their. or Maybe WindSeeker. wed turn of the lights until it was safe to go. 3 emergencys actually did happen at my school. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 If someone were at my high school, I am busting out a window and driving home. If someone were at KI, I would get on WindSeeker. Good luck hitting me from down there. Good luck getting it to work. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg1998 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 If someone were at my high school, I am busting out a window and driving home. If someone were at KI, I would get on WindSeeker. Good luck hitting me from down there. Good luck getting it to work. Also good luck when the ride is over. Actually, let's hope it breaks down at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 If someone were at my high school, I am busting out a window and driving home. If someone were at KI, I would get on WindSeeker. Good luck hitting me from down there. It that case, Knotts is the safest amusement park out there. A safer ride would be KingdaKa and hope for a stall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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