Gov. Kaisich Proposes Admission Tax

[jdawg1998]

I'm just upset about the sports events thing. They're expensive enough as it is. Other than though, I think some of you are overreacting. It seems like there's taxes on everything nowadays, I guess you'll just have to get used to it.

[KI-ORIG-EMP]

Personally I would love to see Ohio as a right to work state. Why should I be forced to join a union as a requirement to get a job? Many do not realize it but Kings Island used to have a union for its maintenance employees. When I was hired into maintenance full time back in September of 1973, I had to joint the Bartenders Union (yes bartender) as a condition of working. Thankfully they were decertified later on and now there is no union for full time maintenance workers. It is the same with Kroger's. I recently took a job as a bagger at minimum wage and had to join their union, but due to an injury, could not work there.

But the governor is wanting to increase products and services charging a sales tax rather than increasing employees state income tax. He is wanting to lower the sales tax rate some and same with the income tax most likely. Cities charge a tax on motel and hotel stays as a way to pay for services and or new construction. You can be sure this list of services and products being taxed will be revised.

[Jr for Birdy]

Im just saying were going to get hit soon with a bunch of right to work commercials,dont buy what you hear,do your homework.

[Dalefan]

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2013/02/what_would_be_taxed_under_gov.html#incart_river_default

TAXED

Admission to cultural events

Admission to professional sports events

Admission to school and college sports events

Amusement park admission and rides

Billiard parlors

Bowling alleys

Cable television services

Circuses and fairs, admission and games

Coin-operated video games

Membership fees in private club

Pari-mutual racing events

Pinball and other mechanical amusements

I shall be commentless on this for now.

They already tax sporting events enough as it is. This is the same guy who said that he was for unions, and then turned around and tried to get rid of them. This issue needs to be put on the nov. ballot. Where is the taxes from the new casinos going? Oh wait, that was spent already. But it makes no sense that you would lower the sales tax only to try and tax other stuff that doesn't need to be taxed. The Ohio themeparks were taxed once already by the citys they are in. Yall seen how that ended. Cedar Fair can buy Ohio. If it wasn't for Cedar Fair, Ohio would not have jobs. I'm hoping that Cedar Fair takes this issue to court or to the State House. I can see Gov. Kaisich not being voted in again.

[AintNutinElse2Do]

Only thing I wanna add is never believe lowering taxes when adding another. I live in a county where our Mayor (now TN gov) told voters if they did not vote FOR a wheel tax property taxes would increase. Well the wheel tax passed :/ and shortly after property values were reassessed to higher values which in essence raised property taxes. Then of course property taxes went up later on. Now I'm thankful to live in a state where there is no state income tax but in the long run we definitely get taxed more overall, unless you never buy anything. But then again at least our state always has a balanced budget so I guess its worth it.

[IBEW_Sparky]

Adding an admission tax and lowering sales tax could be good, right? I mean, you pay a slightly larger fee upfront, but you pay less for park merchandise and food. Most visitors use their pass more than once every summer, so the money lost during the admissions tax will be made up by lower park spending.

..in theory, anyways.

The flaw with that theory is as follows. Business people are business people to do one thing... and one thing only.... make money. IF said sales tax is lowered on said park merchandise and food, dont think for a Brooklyn second that CF, the Cincinnati Reds, Joe's Bowling Alley, etc etc WON'T add that lower price right back onto the unit price on the back end to put that extra few cents in their pockets. In doing this, they can say "Look at how GREAT we are!! We didnt pass the higher taxes onto you, the consumer, because our prices didnt go up". Well, yes they did, you as a business owner simply added a bit more to your personal pocketbook.

[Tanna]

Tax 101: If it makes you smile, they tax it.

I always wondered why people thought George Harrison was a hippy?

[Thrill_Biscuit]

More money, me bucko! Argh argh argh argh argh!

[Creed Bratton]

I am so borrowing that picture! Lol. I've not been a fan of Kasich since he took office, but this really ticks me off.

[medford]

Adding an admission tax and lowering sales tax could be good, right? I mean, you pay a slightly larger fee upfront, but you pay less for park merchandise and food. Most visitors use their pass more than once every summer, so the money lost during the admissions tax will be made up by lower park spending.

..in theory, anyways.

The flaw with that theory is as follows. Business people are business people to do one thing... and one thing only.... make money. IF said sales tax is lowered on said park merchandise and food, dont think for a Brooklyn second that CF, the Cincinnati Reds, Joe's Bowling Alley, etc etc WON'T add that lower price right back onto the unit price on the back end to put that extra few cents in their pockets. In doing this, they can say "Look at how GREAT we are!! We didnt pass the higher taxes onto you, the consumer, because our prices didnt go up". Well, yes they did, you as a business owner simply added a bit more to your personal pocketbook.

One thing to consider, corporations don't "pay" taxes, their customers do.

Coke pays taxes every year based upon their revenue, land holdings, etc... Those taxes are factored into what they charge us the consumers for a bottle of Coke.

Procter & Gamble pay taxes every year based upon all the 1,000s of things they sell. Those taxes are factored into what they charge for Tide and everything else.

GM pays taxes on cars, those taxes are factored into what they charge the dealer to purchase their car (the dealer then in turn factors into his price what he charges us for his taxes)

Its obviously not quite that simple, but keep in mind that the Reds, Cedar Fair, Joe's Bowling alley, etc... are already paying taxes to the state of ohio each year. Those taxes are factored into what they charge for admission, a game of bowling, shoe rentals,etc.... You may not see a "tax" line item on your bill every time you buy a Reds ticket, but make no mistake, there are taxes figured into what you're paying for a pair of moon deck seats on a saturday afternoon. In a smilar vain, many like to say that you get "free pop" everytime you go to holiday world. You may not be charged for soda during the day, but that cost of all the soda has been factored into your admission ticket and you are indeed paying for that privledge no matter if you decide to take advantage of it or not.

[flightoffear1996]

Instead of raising taxes on everything and put even more stress on American families that are already struggling to just "make it" they need to cut out this useless unnessary spending

[Creed Bratton]

They need to cut the amount of staff that works for Kasich. He's got assistants to the assistants of the assistants. My sister works for the state and has to deal with the 3rd assistant. Or they need to cut the amount of payroll they spend on Ohio Congress who works at most 14 days out of the month.

[medford]

Instead of raising taxes on everything and put even more stress on American families that are already struggling to just "make it" they need to cut out this useless unnessary spending

Amen to that. I'd like to see lower taxes AND less government spending.

[BB1]

Before I have to spend a shiny penny (which I have many) on a tax, I would like for a change like this to happen. Stop the spending, cut down on taxes, and really start to see who needs the true money, people need to actually find jobs, not sit around and nab change and my nickles down the drain. I like money, Mr Krabs, really a great man.

[flightoffear1996]

Point in case: The street car in over the rhine that goes pretty much no where and will be destroyed by thugs and gangsters. The sad thing is this was even voted down by the voters and they are still building it.

[medford]

Point in case: The street car in over the rhine that goes pretty much no where and will be destroyed by thugs and gangsters. The sad thing is this was even voted down by the voters and they are still building it.

I'm not a fan of the money they're spending on the street car, and I fail to see how they make any money (or even break even) however, the issue was NOT voted down. The issue was confusing, and a yes on the issue meant you didn't want a street car, but as the language read and as the vote tally added up, installing the street car was approved by the voters of Cincy last novemember (or april or whenever that particular vote occured).

[CoastersRZ]

I also would like to point out that in addition to the already stated admissions tax to amusement park, this sales tax would apply to services as well. It specifically lists architectural services rendered by architects and architecture firms. That will have a direct impact on me if it forces people to take their business outside the state of Ohio. I work full time at an architecture firm in downtown Cincinnati.