thunderbeast1968 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I was wondering, does anyone think Cedar Fair would ever consider a wooden looping coaster (Outlaw Run) at one of the parks? I had no problem with Son of Beast, but I understand there were maintenance issues as was a lawsuit concerning the ride itself. With the advancement in technology and a few looping coasters that seem to be OK. I have not had the chance to ride a coaster like Outlaw Run or Hades 360. That being said, I cannot have a real opinion yet. (I know that the Gravity Group worked on Hades) Maybe only time will tell, if this new ride idea will really work and remain safe. Son of Beast had a vertical loop, and the other two looping coasters seem to have a more of a heartline roll. Will this be a major "game changer" for the future of looping wooden coasters? I would love your guys opinion. It would not hurt my feelings, if KI or Cedar Point considered a looping (RMC) wooden coaster in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondback96 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Neither park is going to get a looping coaster in the near future. SoB was just demolished a year ago. Now, Carowinds or KD? Maybe, those are far enough away where people probably wouldn't think of SoB. I still doubt it, because CF seems to only get their wooden coasters from GCI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastForever Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Heck, I'd just be happy if we got a nice GCI sometime in the near future...A twister like Gold Striker would certainly contrast greatly with The Racer's out and back layout as well as The Beast's terrain layout. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Neither park is going to get a looping coaster in the near future. SoB was just demolished a year ago. Now, Carowinds or KD? Maybe, those are far enough away where people probably wouldn't think of SoB. I still doubt it, because CF seems to only get their wooden coasters from GCI. KD is the sister park, word gets around my slithering friend, I know far too well the many people who frequent from KD. I would like to see a RMC come to KI, sure it is an excellent coaster manufacturer, which I believe that they could get a great one in the back reaches of the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 RCCA did not build Son of Beast and Paramount Parks did not build the coaster RCCA designed for Kings Island... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 That is one-hundred percent true. Semantics can be fun. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkyFoxx Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I'd just be happy in general if the park got a new wooden coaster in the future. Something that's just pure fun that makes you want to get off and run back in line and ride it again. I feel like the park is really missing something now without SoB, and that is one less wooden coaster in the park. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChainDog Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 KI definitely would benefit from one of these new wooden coasters. It would make for a very solid line up of coasters. I would love to see them build the longest wooden coaster again to keep the record local. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_SoB_fan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 When did The Beast get dethroned? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I547 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChainDog Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 It didn't, just saying that KI should make sure the record stays in house. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbeast1968 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 RCCA did not build Son of Beast and Paramount Parks did not build the coaster RCCA designed for Kings Island... Who built SOB do you say? I just read it on Roller Coaster Data Base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Paramount Parks. rcdb.com, though marvelous, is not always right. For another example, at Camden Park, Big Dipper's predecessor was The New Sensation. That's not what that website says. It says Figure 8. That is not correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevKenny Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 rcdb- the wikipedia of roller coasters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastForever Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 RCCA did not build Son of Beast and Paramount Parks did not build the coaster RCCA designed for Kings Island... Who built SOB do you say? I just read it on Roller Coaster Data Base There is a difference between a company "building" a ride and a company "designing" the ride... If I'm not mistaken, RCCA designed Son of Beast and was originally supposed to be the one to physically construct it, but Paramount promptly fired them after design. Paramount then took the job upon themselves to "build" it but did not follow through with many of the features of RCCA's design during construction (and other corners were cut as well). Did I get it right Terpy? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 You did, except it was an RCCA affiliate, Roller Coaster Company of Ohio, that began construction of the ride before being discharged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbeast1968 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 You did, except it was an RCCA affiliate, Roller Coaster Company of Ohio, that began construction of the ride before being discharged. Wow!! I am confused. So, RCCA designed, KI fired them and built it "in house", cut corners, and did NOT follow all ride designs as recommended by RCCA? Did I get that right? If so, why? Why sink a ton of money into something to just cut corners? BAD MOVE KI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Current KI had nothing to do with any of this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbeast1968 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 Current KI had nothing to do with any of this. So, someone had to make that decision, not to follow RCCA recommendations and design (by cutting corners) Is that known, or was it done as a collaboration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 What was done can be seen and read about. Why and by whom decisions were made was not always obvious or transparent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbeast1968 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 What was done can be seen and read about. Why and by whom decisions were made was not always obvious or transparent. Thanks for the information 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 KI definitely would benefit from one of these new wooden coasters. It would make for a very solid line up of coasters. I would love to see them build the longest wooden coaster again to keep the record local. It didn't, just saying that KI should make sure the record stays in house. Kings Island already has one of the greatest wooden roller coasters in the world with The Beast, and the longest wooden roller in the world is also The Beast. The Beast is celebrating its 35th anniversary season in 2014 and no other wooden roller coaster has beat it out yet for the spot of worlds longest wooden coaster. Kings Island has made sure that the record stayed in the park.......For 34 years and counting. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 rcdb- the wikipedia of roller coasters Not necessarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChainDog Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 KI definitely would benefit from one of these new wooden coasters. It would make for a very solid line up of coasters. I would love to see them build the longest wooden coaster again to keep the record local. It didn't, just saying that KI should make sure the record stays in house. Kings Island already has one of the greatest wooden roller coasters in the world with The Beast, and the longest wooden roller in the world is also The Beast. The Beast is celebrating its 35th anniversary season in 2014 and no other wooden roller coaster has beat it out yet for the spot of worlds longest wooden coaster. Kings Island has made sure that the record stayed in the park.......For 34 years and counting. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with The Beast, it happens to be my favorite coaster of all time. All I was saying is that in the distant future KI should keep the record by have Rocky Mtn. Construction build another great wooden coaster. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 ^ In at least one user's opinion, RMC doesn't build any wooden coasters at all... Unless you're talking about El Toro. But that's another discussion entirely! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondback96 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 ^ I would say that the topper track still qualifies as wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 ^ In at least one user's opinion, RMC doesn't build any wooden coasters at all... Unless you're talking about El Toro. But that's another discussion entirely! El Toro?! A. INTAMIN B. GCII RMC? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterguy15 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 ^Look under Portfolio - Roller Coasters: http://www.rockymtnconstruction.com They helped create the ride, but to an extent that I don't know the details of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 That's a stretch. It's not their design, nor did they build it. The company was a subcontractor for INTAMIN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 ^ I thought they did the actual construction of the ride. My bad. Nevermind! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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