Tanner Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Today I heard about some improvements, and some not so improvements to Coney Mall. There's only two real ones that I'm aware of actually. Scrambler has been painted a bright yellow for the most part, and Racer now has seatbelts. Racer with seatbelts is gonna be a big drag I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatefanjeff Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 I agree about the seatbelts, I'm going to miss all that airtime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Kinda Guy Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 I agree about the seatbelts, I'm going to miss all that airtime Are you being serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Seatbelts suck! i dont wanna lose my airtime! i think The Racers were fine with just the lapbars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 You shouldn't lose airtime. If you do I'll be extremely suprised, Zephyr and Monster are also being painted, but wiht this weather I wouldn't count on it by Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Kinda Guy Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Seatbelts suck! i dont wanna lose my airtime! i think The Racers were fine with just the lapbars! Oh get over it. It's people like you that make me despise coaster enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Kinda Guy Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Zephyr and Monster are also being painted, but wiht this weather I wouldn't count on it by Saturday. No Monster paint job Joe. The Zephyr paint job is done however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Sorry Monster is being RENOVATED, I got confused. I did see the new Monster sign it looked good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Kinda Guy Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Nothing renovated about it either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Ruining my dreams again Spark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSASBoxcarRace14 Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Ladies, Ladies........besides AZKindaGuy. BEAST got seatbelts as well. It won't change the airtime. They barely even touch you. Just an added safety measure. And it isn't a hassle because we only have to visually check them. And if a guest thinks it's a hassle, then ur just a straighy out BUM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMBryan Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Monster wasnt completely put back together last time i checked (sunday mar 28) that might be what teenageninja saw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Kinda Guy Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 As of Monday, the 29th, it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI_Man Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Seatbelts on The Racer seems safe but it robs us of our airtime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Kinda Guy Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Seatbelts on The Racer seems safe but it robs us of our airtime What airtime?!?!? This is The Racer we're talking about here folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRickster Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 BTW Almost all (id say like 99%) PTC trains will be getting these. PTC sent out letters recomending the installation so its not really the parks fault here. They just want everyone to be as safe as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbeast Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Okay I want you guys to stop talking about the seatbelts until you see these things... that's all I'm gonna say. Oh and I'm pretty sure I felt some air-time on MF and Magnum... don't those rides have seatbelts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIDelirium Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Only MF. Magnum is just AE-type bars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted March 31, 2004 Author Share Posted March 31, 2004 Seatbelts on The Racer seems safe but it robs us of our airtime What airtime?!?!? This is The Racer we're talking about here folks! You're surely not that fat that you can't have airtime are you? I think it provides great airtime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterdime Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 For Racer air time, you have to try the front of the train. I suggest either the first or second seats in the first car. Judging from other PTC's I've ridden with seatbelts, I don't expect a huge difference in the ride's performance. My only concern is the longer wait, while people learn how to actually use a seatbelt. I think at first, most people will just sit on 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRickster Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 They are retractable so noone can sit on em lol. The belts arent nearly as bad as everyone makes them sound though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adbort Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 They are retractable so noone can sit on em lol. The belts arent nearly as bad as everyone makes them sound though. Are the seat belts going to go across you? Or are they just going to be attached to the lap bar, like on FOF? If they are just attached to the lap bar they shouldn't be too bad. But if they go across you, like at Cedar Point on the Mean Streak and the Blue Streak that may be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StXBomber Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Just wait until you ride with the belts. Airtime will NOT be affected as far as it looks. They are retractable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkride_chick Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 From what I understand, the new seatbelts will be similar to what The Beastie has had for years. They will go across your lap, and will not connect the lap restraint in any way. Of course, I could be wrong, but that is what I was told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Seemed pretty together on Sunday too me, but maybe I'm blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterdime Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 They are retractable so noone can sit on em lol. The belts arent nearly as bad as everyone makes them sound though. That's cool. I can remember people complaining when these trains were fitted with the current orange bars. ('93 season, I think) People complained that those would "kill" the ride quality... everyone just needs to get used to them. BTW, Rickster...are you going to get to work Eagles this Saturday? If so, I look forward to meeting ya...and seeing the rest of the returning crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkisparks Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 The only thing I am not going to like about the seatbealts is slower loading times, your gonna get those people that either A. dont see the belts and the attendant says buckle please, B. the overweight person is gonna have a problem. C. kids are gonna need help. d. getting out will be an extra step.. But all in all I dont mind them just makes for a slower line to get on the ride... Bryon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRickster Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 No im off saturday I might be in the park though. Then sunday I work and im not sure if ill be on bst or eagles until then. Overweight people will have NO problems. If you could fit on it before you still will now. The belts go out a HUGH lenth more then they need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbeast Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 The only thing I am not going to like about the seatbealts is slower loading times, your gonna get those people that either A. dont see the belts and the attendant says buckle please, B. the overweight person is gonna have a problem. C. kids are gonna need help. d. getting out will be an extra step.. But all in all I dont mind them just makes for a slower line to get on the ride... Bryon The load/unload time shouldn't be affected too much, if the person can't fit in the belt, they probably can't fit the bar either, the people that won't realize the seatbelt is there will probably be the same people that leave their bar up until the attendant gets there and there is at least one person on every train that doesn't understand "push down and pull up" on every train so the unload time shouldn't be affected with the extra step of unbuckling the seatbelt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 I'll throw my two cents in.... I also think The Racer has great air! It is my favorite coaster there. as others mentioned... the seatbelts have been added to all Paramount Parks wooden coasters that run PTC trains. This was dictated by PTC and not PKI. Because PTC "strongly recommended" the addition of seatbelts to all parks that run their trains, Paramount was essentially required to do so (insurance.) I expect we will see them on many coasters within other chains as well. This is a direct result of the Holiday World Fatality last year. I personally am not concerned about affected ride, but also am concerned about affected dispatch times. This is another challenge for guests, who seemingly can't think for themselves when they enter a park. I am also hearing that they are retractable belts. Personally I think non-retractable slide belts are a much better option. Beastie's retractables have proven that they tend to jam or get stuck... making it an even bigger challenge to load. Shaggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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