Screwball Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 This is most of what we know so far, as we find out facts post them in here. According to Screamscape: There will be three cars on each train for a total of twelve riders per train. The circuit will hold three trains. There will be seperate stations for loading and unloading. There will be three LIM launches during the circuit. The following I learned from my recent trip: The coaster will go about the same speed as Adventure Express which goes 36 MPH, so 40 MPH as previously talked about would be correct. There will be actual Mini's on the trains. You will have to open the door to get in, as well as working headlights, and sound inside of the car. PKI has actually purchased a full size helicopter. During the explosions PKI wants you to be able to feel the heat from the flames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoskins123 Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 I seriously was just talking about that yesterday and said they need a blast of heat coming at you to make the explosions feel more realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanA Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 They are real explosions, you will need no heat blasts to feel them. Ever seen the pirate show prior to it to becoming gay in Las Vegas at Treasure Island(now TI, so very very gay)? The explosions were far away, but you could feel heat from them. Yeah, the mini-coopers will have real doors and all that, pretty cool. Also, the bumps will be in the ride, and Jeff told me they were working on some sort of fishtailing effect for the cars to do. Also, one of the launches will be more of a boost than an actual launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screwball Posted August 28, 2004 Author Share Posted August 28, 2004 They are real explosions, you will need no heat blasts to feel them. Ever seen the pirate show prior to it to becoming gay in Las Vegas at Treasure Island(now TI, so very very gay)? The explosions were far away, but you could feel heat from them. Yeah, the mini-coopers will have real doors and all that, pretty cool. Also, the bumps will be in the ride, and Jeff told me they were working on some sort of fishtailing effect for the cars to do. Also, one of the launches will be more of a boost than an actual launch. The only show where I have seen explosions is the Batman Thrill Spectacular at Six Flags Darien Lake. It's held in a huge theatre, but when the explosions happen no matter how far back you are it's very hot. That will be a great feature on the coaster. I sort of assumed one of the launches would be a boost like you said, as by watching the video there is only two points where the train is launched from a stationary point. It's anyone's guess right now where the remaining launch will occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 I highly doubt you'll open the doors yourself. I'm gonna say that they'll open automatically. I highly doubt that this helicopter is a real helicopter. The helicopter in the video appears to be a MD-500; and those aren't cheap. The Hamilton County Sheriff's Office has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screwball Posted August 28, 2004 Author Share Posted August 28, 2004 I highly doubt you'll open the doors yourself. I'm gonna say that they'll open automatically. I highly doubt that this helicopter is a real helicopter. The helicopter in the video appears to be a MD-500; and those aren't cheap. The Hamilton County Sheriff's Office has one. All that was said about the helicopter is that the park has purchased a full size helicopter. I am sure it would be scaled down and not able to fly, but from what I was told it doesn't sound like it's just a shell of a helicopter. As far as the doors, that would make more sense on them opening automatically. That just what I was told by a manager on a morning walkback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanA Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 I'm guessing the chopper will be similar to the one in Kong Frontation, but probably mounted onto a hydraulic arm(hidden behind the cargo containers)so it can pitch and turn while it shoots at you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StXBomber Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 About the fire, it is not unusual for theme parks to use real fire in rides. Look at Universal. They have REAL fire effects in Spiderman, Earthquake, Jaws, etc. As you can see, real fire for IJST is not out of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB/Gun Steve-O Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 I remember when I went to the Metallica concert in 2003 up at the horseshoe. I was in the upper deck to the left of the stage, but when they shot up the flames during "Fuel," oh, man! We could feel them - very clearly - even up there! So it would not take much to feel the explosion, I think. If you don't know, the horseshoe is Ohio Stadium, where the Buckeye football team plays. It is shaped like a horseshoe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnapper Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 There is only 2 launches. Very short ride but will be awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Homey Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 I went on Saturday and they were playing the Italian Job animation video on QTV. Seemed to be a longer version than the one on the PKI site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Bandwith on it. I got it though but I won't link to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnapper Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 It will be an awesome ride with some cool quick turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return_of_Yogi Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 THE ITALIAN JOB STUNT TRACK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 actually there are two launches and a boost. The boost will be uphill and through the billboard into the aqua-duct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow2k3 Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 If you don't know, the horseshoe is Ohio Stadium, where the Buckeye football team plays. It is shaped like a horseshoe. And God Bless those Bucks. But one question arises: Will PKI keep up with the theming of this coaster? TR TR used to be a great effects ride, but half of them do not work at all. I give these effects 3, maybe 4 years tops. ~S~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousLastWords Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 You can usually tell what effects will break first. Any effects on the train i.e. speakers, car doors, etc. should be fine as maintenance will always have access to the trains, plus car sound effects are a major part of the ride. I'm betting the lights on the police cruisers will burn out first, and since it takes "an effort" to walk out in the grass (note the sarcasm), they will most likely go for long periods of time with out being replaced. (I work on TRTR so I know how long it takes to change a light bulb here.) The only real effects after this are the helicopter and the water splash. Being the main part of the ride, it's hard to imagine PKI letting the chopper fall apart, but looking at previous themed rides, they will. The propellers, rotors, whatever they're called, will go first. They will get slower and slower until they eventually stop. (anyone remember phantom theatre, and the ever slower moving sheets of music over the maestro's head?) Next, of course will be the Sim Bullets. Fewer of these will be working each time you ride. They'll be fixed every now and then, but they won't last forever. Finally, the explosions. If they are using real fire, you can bet they will be gone after July. They look like they will be placed too close to the train. People will complain about it being too hot, especially on the smaller riders (48 in. height requirement). Then, maintenance will discover the heat is damaging the trains, the tracks, whatever, and their intensity will be turned down. (Supposedly the water from the lavapit on TRTR was hurting the sensors on the gondola, so pressure was turned down, now nobody gets wet) Of course, let's not forget the obvious: the explosions just break themselves---that goes for whether or not real fire is used. However, if the explosions do JUST BREAK, you can count on maintenace, or whoever's job it is, to fix them pretty quickly, or at least try to fix them for a while. Last but not least, the water splash. If the splash is generated by the train, which I doubt it will be, then it can't break, plain an simple. But, if it is done by water jets on the side of the track, then, like the police cruiser lights, when it breaks, nobody will be in a big hurry to fix it. If it's not meant to get you wet, then it is mainly just for show for the people watching in the queue and exit. If it's just for show, no big deal for PKI if they lose it. To sum up everything, I hope the effects last forever, but knowing the situation of other rides in the park *cough TRTR, AE cough*, they probably won't . (gets tear in eye) Edit: A thought has occured to me. Due to the short distance from the train, it is unlikely that real fire will be used in the explosions. Instead, I see them doing something similar to the lavapit on TRTR. Using boilers, they will blast steam from designated areas to simulate explosions. These hardly ever break, and they create almost the same effect as fire. Something I can't figure out, though, is that in the animation, real fire, separate from the explosions, can be seen surrounding the train. Only real fire could be used to create this effect, steam just wouldn't look right. Hopefully, if they follow the animation, they will use a fire effect similar to the one on Jaws in Universal Studios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matth Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 One would think you actually work at PKI with that attitude. Sadly you are right; and about the fire, Technifex originally intended to have fire at TRTR, but for one reason or another all was cut from the plan, except the outdoor flames of course. One point where I believe you are wrong is about the sound in the trains, this will likely fail quickly, one train at a time, and because of the "maintenance" group that will work on it, there is no hope it will function at all by its second season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousLastWords Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I don't know anything about proposed real fire on TRTR, but I can think of one good reason why they don't have it. The only place to put it would be in the lavapit. Since you hang upside down over it, the heat would be too unbearable. Plus, one malfunction/over charged fire blast= goodbye hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Punk Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I had heard that they wanted you to feel the heat from the explosions. This leads me to think that they will use real fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterKrazy Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Or something similar to the boiler effect at the end of Phantom Theater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRickster Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Could use the steam that is lit up to look like fire like revenge of the mummy uses... This seem's like a logical idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanA Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Jeff said there would be real fire. It looks like there is some water and steam used as well though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRickster Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Yea ive heard that to but it could be anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnapper Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 I cant wait until next sprng to ride this awesome ride! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Terror Rider Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 All I know is this: it's gonna be a f***ing awesome ride. If it starts breaking down like TRTR, screw it, cause I ain't waitin' in a sh***y line again. You gotta do something to keep me and my friends in line cause we're getting f****ing bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Track length is goign to be roughly 3000 feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousLastWords Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Are you sure about that length? The video makes it look like the track will be no longer than Flight of Fear's. Isn't FOF's track about 1700 feet long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnapper Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 language!!!! it will be a fun ride but very low on thrills. I just hope"families" wont be to scared of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKlockster Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 So it will be about the same in size as AE. I wonder if it will be more fun, or not as fun. AE is pretty fun, but except for a few tunnels and headchoppers, there isn't a lot to it. I think the aqueduct, helicopter, and parking garage will make it a little more interesting. Plus it looks like it has some pretty cool track elements. But you can tell from the track type that it wont do anything too extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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