coasterfanatic83 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I don't know if this is a new layout for the site, or if this is just what I'm seeing. When I open a forum, after the first topic there is an ad. Prior to tonight, I don't remember seeing this before. Anybody else? It's not a big deal, but just enough to be a slight annoyance.(snip of what I'm talking about) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 There has always been ads used to finance the server/domains, they were just turned off to logged in users. They are now turned back on to logged in users, that's all. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Somebody has to pay for all this FUN and frivolity. That helps. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfanatic83 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Oh ok! I just wasn't sure if it was something new or not. I'm all for using ads to fund the site, as long as it keeps KIC around for us! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I know it's a unpopular decision but ad payouts arnt what they used to be, expecially during the off season. This is all the ads their will ever be. I hate pop ups, pop unders, or any new which way they are sneeking ads in on people. KIC will never accept/ask for donations, we would rather be the ones donating to your Coasting for Kids pages as we have done in the past. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I've said it before and I'll say it again. Thank you, Mr. Dane, for all you do here. You's good people! 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Question for the technically minded here (and Dane, since he knows how the payouts on the ads work): I know browser extensions like AdBlock Plus completely block ads, to the point that site owners receive no ad revenue from visitors with that extension running. Since I don't want to see the ads, but at the same time don't want to deprive KIC of revenue, I'm wondering what would happen from a revenue standpoint if I set custom CSS code (using the Stylish extension for Firefox) to apply "display: none;" to the ad elements. In theory, I would think that the ad would still be loaded, thereby providing revenue, just not shown. However, I don't know anything about how the ads work, so I don't know whether that is indeed the case, or if applying "display: none;" would block the revenue as well. And yes, thanks for all you do, Dane. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Is it possible to move the ads somewhere else on the page? It looks weird dividing the topics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'd think they need to be seen so some click on them...thus producing revenue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoChickens Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 ^^ It only looks weird, because we're not used to it. Very small annoyance to keep the site up as far as I'm concerned. Thanks Dane, and all the admins, for all you do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Since I don't want to see the ads, but at the same time don't want to deprive KIC of revenue, I'm wondering what would happen from a revenue standpoint if I set custom CSS code (using the Stylish extension for Firefox) to apply "display: none;" to the ad elements. Revenue from pay-per-click ads would be affected only if you would have otherwise clicked them. CPM revenue would be affected, as advertisers are paying to be seen by a human 1,000 times. CPM rates, however, tend to be low for sites that get much of their traffic from repeat visitors. I use the NoScript add-on for Firefox, so I didn't notice the change. This doesn't block ads per se, but all JavaScript is rejected except from whitelisted domains. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondback96 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'd think they need to be seen so some click on them...thus producing revenue. I would think having it above the forum body would be acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'd think they need to be seen so some click on them...thus producing revenue.I would think having it above the forum body would be acceptable. I'd think WHATEVER Mr. Dane decides WILL be acceptable. It's neither up to us nor up for debate. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfanatic83 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Effective ads are often placed where the most eye traffic is. On KIC, I would imagine that location is right near the top/middle of discussions.The example we see in classes all the time is the "Google Triangle." The locations where the eyes focus are premier advertising spots. "The Google Triangle" 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 See also your friendly local Six Flags park. Or Hallowe'en Haunt, Driven by SafeAuto. Or See the USA in your --------- Chevrolet. And, thankfully no longer at FUN, that ghastly Red Gold "Ketchup." Or whatever it was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merthecat Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Question for the technically minded here (and Dane, since he knows how the payouts on the ads work): I know browser extensions like AdBlock Plus completely block ads, to the point that site owners receive no ad revenue from visitors with that extension running. Since I don't want to see the ads, but at the same time don't want to deprive KIC of revenue, I'm wondering what would happen from a revenue standpoint if I set custom CSS code (using the Stylish extension for Firefox) to apply "display: none;" to the ad elements. In theory, I would think that the ad would still be loaded, thereby providing revenue, just not shown. However, I don't know anything about how the ads work, so I don't know whether that is indeed the case, or if applying "display: none;" would block the revenue as well. And yes, thanks for all you do, Dane. I was thinking about doing that too! And that's what I've always thought, that the ads are still technically there, but just not shown. (But I'm no tech genius so I have no idea.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Goble my best guess is credit will still be provided for the view, although actual clicks generate much more revenue. This is also a experiment as both Adsense and Analytics both track page views. Therefore you can see how many users are using ad blocking programs. Members originally not being shown ads goes back to when it was recommended to us to start a "premium program" for users. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Wait there is ads on KIC Forums, I havent even noticed.... Posted from my Samsung Galaxy on the mobile skin with no ad blockers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta Lizard Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Yeah, they don't seem to show on the mobile site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Goble my best guess is credit will still be provided for the view, although actual clicks generate much more revenue. This is also a experiment as both Adsense and Analytics both track page views. Therefore you can see how many users are using ad blocking programs. OK, thanks. I think I'll leave them alone for now, but I'll keep the CSS solution in reserve in case they start to become really annoying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Goble my best guess is credit will still be provided for the view, although actual clicks generate much more revenue. This is also a experiment as both Adsense and Analytics both track page views. Therefore you can see how many users are using ad blocking programs. Members originally not being shown ads goes back to when it was recommended to us to start a "premium program" for users. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk If you happen to know the answer, how would the use of Tapatalk affect the numbers from Adsense and Analytics? Would a page view be counted at all? On another somewhat unrelated question, did KIC get a new favicon, or have I just literally never noticed that we have one? It seems like I recall the site always using the InvisionPower logo, but now there seems to be a neat little blue logo that says "KI". Not that it matters much, I'm sure the number of people who notice the favicon on any given site is pretty close to zero. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonofbeast2.0 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 although actual clicks generate much more revenue.Found work for Mr.Kinzel! He likes his nickels... The more ads is fine by me as long as they don't block anything (which they don't). Glad Dane is here to keep this place in tip top shape! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 If you happen to know the answer, how would the use of Tapatalk affect the numbers from Adsense and Analytics? Would a page view be counted at all? Tapatalk would not create revenue from website ads, but they have their own advertisement/monetization system for forum owners (which Dane might want to look into if he hasn't already). Note that those who paid for Tapatalk Pro (previously Tapatalk 4) before Pro was discontinued now have VIP benefits in the free app, meaning (among other things) that they do not see ads on any forum, even if the forum owner has enabled them. I am one of those users, since I bought Tapatalk 4 right after release when it was on sale for $0.99 and there was no free version (other than the no-longer-supported public beta). On another somewhat unrelated question, did KIC get a new favicon, or have I just literally never noticed that we have one? It seems like I recall the site always using the InvisionPower logo, but now there seems to be a neat little blue logo that says "KI". Not that it matters much, I'm sure the number of people who notice the favicon on any given site is pretty close to zero. The blue "KI" favicon has been there for a while, but it and the InvisionPower logo have been fighting each other for supremacy for years. Sometimes the IP logo shows up, sometimes the custom KI one. I never know which one I'm going to get. Right now, this page is showing me the KI icon, but my bookmark that points to the root of the forums is currently showing the IP logo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Goble my best guess is credit will still be provided for the view, although actual clicks generate much more revenue. This is also a experiment as both Adsense and Analytics both track page views. Therefore you can see how many users are using ad blocking programs. OK, thanks. I think I'll leave them alone for now, but I'll keep the CSS solution in reserve in case they start to become really annoying. No more are planned to be added for the foreseeable future. I do it to break even, not personal profit... and buy dinner for our KIC meetings at Red HoF Grill.... or Chipotle. If you happen to know the answer, how would the use of Tapatalk affect the numbers from Adsense and Analytics? Would a page view be counted at all? On another somewhat unrelated question, did KIC get a new favicon, or have I just literally never noticed that we have one? It seems like I recall the site always using the InvisionPower logo, but now there seems to be a neat little blue logo that says "KI". Not that it matters much, I'm sure the number of people who notice the favicon on any given site is pretty close to zero. Tapatalk still shows as page views in analytics, there is a different dashboard to view tapatalk usage. I too have the fav.ico "battle" eachother too even though our root and forums has the KI fav.ico placed in it. If you happen to know the answer, how would the use of Tapatalk affect the numbers from Adsense and Analytics? Would a page view be counted at all? Tapatalk would not create revenue from website ads, but they have their own advertisement/monetization system for forum owners (which Dane might want to look into if he hasn't already). Note that those who paid for Tapatalk Pro (previously Tapatalk 4) before Pro was discontinued now have VIP benefits in the free app, meaning (among other things) that they do not see ads on any forum, even if the forum owner has enabled them. I am one of those users, since I bought Tapatalk 4 right after release when it was on sale for $0.99 and there was no free version (other than the no-longer-supported public beta). We are enrolled in it for people that use the free tapatalk. The pro users do not see any ads regardless if we opted in or not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I personally do not have any issues with this...just took me by surprise. Thanks Dane for all you do! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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