The Interpreter Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 The 50 is still accurate, but now they say 49 victims, plus him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkrider68 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Disney: https://www.yahoo.com/news/orlando-nightclub-gunman-scouted-walt-150008380.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Despite being investigated by the FBI twice before Sunday's tragedy, Mateen bought an an AR-15-style assault rifle, a Sig Sauer RMCX, on June 4 – just one week before the attack, the source says. He also had a Glock model 17 9mm and a Smith and Wesson .38 caliber revolver. More victims at the wrong end of a gun. How many more have to perish before changes are made to help these senseless incidents from happening? Prayers to the victims & families....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldiesmann Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Witnesses are now reporting that the killer had visited the club numerous times before, and local radio station KISS 107 even says he had a gay dating profile... http://kiss107.iheart.com/onair/kristie-56301/orlando-shooter-a-regular-at-pulse-14810002/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/06/13/pulse-patrons-mateen-drank-club-before/85852008/ This is getting stranger and stranger 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AintNutinElse2Do Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 For some it's what's inside themselves which they hold the most hatred. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G530AZ using Tapatalk 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkrider68 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Some truth in "when you point the finger, you have three pointing back at you." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I found out last night on my first shift, that the CEO of the company sent out an email to everyone stating that the company was going to be providing assistance, food and support to the first responders, victims families and hospitals in Orlando. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 NBC reports the gunman's wife tried to talk him out of the attack... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Chick-fil-A responds to the Orlando massacre in surprising way: http://www.whio.com/news/news/national/orlando-chick-fil-a-store-supports-blood-donors-wi/nrfyn/ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 ^Not really surprising, that is their normal reaction. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg1998 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 What an annoying headline for that article. I really don't want to start an argument but seriously...the people at Chick-fil-A are all kind people who love and accept every kind of person. Just because of one comment the head of the company said years ago, it is "surprising" that they'd help out with the senseless killing of fifty innocent people - the worst mass shooting in American history? C'mon now. Really? That just makes me mad. Sorry. I know this is not about that, it is about this horrific attack on humanity - but I just had to say something. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 It would be more surprising if WHIO actually contributed to the effort to assist. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondback96 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Disney: https://www.yahoo.com/news/orlando-nightclub-gunman-scouted-walt-150008380.html Isn't there an unofficial pride week there around this time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTCO Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Thought I would add that I visited the park (Kings Island) today and guests entering the park were being throughly searched and metal detected. I entered Soak City at around 5:00pm, left and entered the main park around 8:30pm and they were still searching people as I left the park (9:30ish). Looks like this might be a permanent thing at least for the next coming weeks. Maybe even the season. (Hopefully forever) EDIT: Thought I would add that both the Soak City and Main Entrance had the Kings Island police conducting the searches. (Black Shirts) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanna Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 And just know I read that some fellow tried to take hostages in an Amarillo, TX. Walmart. He didn't get too far. Shot dead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 The killers wife knew of his intent and may be charged. http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/orlando-shooting-wife-could-be-charged-1.3635601 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Rider Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Despite being investigated by the FBI twice before Sunday's tragedy, Mateen bought an an AR-15-style assault rifle, a Sig Sauer RMCX, on June 4 – just one week before the attack, the source says. He also had a Glock model 17 9mm and a Smith and Wesson .38 caliber revolver. More victims at the wrong end of a gun. How many more have to perish before changes are made to help these senseless incidents from happening? Prayers to the victims & families....... These incidents are terrible enough on their own without having to read stupidity like this. 49 innocent people lost their lives due to some raving lunatic. All of those people were in a gun free zone in Orlando. The law already on the books against having a gun (not to mention the law against murder) in that location sure worked well, didn't it? Since you brought it up, what exactly is your solution? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I'm going to stay out of the gun conversation, but I would like to have a discussion on the effectiveness of park metal detectors and bag searches. Is it really a deterrent? In my opinion it is more of a "keep the public's minds at ease" kind of tactic. I waited in a huge mass of people for forty minutes to get past Universal's security checkpoint and into the parks. A shooter would have way more casualties shooting into this concentrated mass of people that are ironically waiting for a practice that is supposed to make them safer. Also, guess what repeatedly gets through security checkpoints without even as much as a search? Strollers. I've witnessed so many huge strollers zoom on by security it is unbelievable, especially when those would probably be the most likely way to sneak in a gun to the park. I don't know though. I admittedly don't have any of the answers, but I do think living in fear is exactly what these dbags want and for the most part we're satisfying them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I believe in the Brussels or the Paris attack last year the gun check did keep the thing from exploding the device inside the stadium. I don't have answers either. I could see how a person outside the park could cause damage at the security check, but I would think the damage would/could be more in the park? The parks big enough that a person could theoretically hit an entire section before being apprehended Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Despite being investigated by the FBI twice before Sunday's tragedy, Mateen bought an an AR-15-style assault rifle, a Sig Sauer RMCX, on June 4 – just one week before the attack, the source says. He also had a Glock model 17 9mm and a Smith and Wesson .38 caliber revolver. More victims at the wrong end of a gun. How many more have to perish before changes are made to help these senseless incidents from happening? Prayers to the victims & families....... These incidents are terrible enough on their own without having to read stupidity like this. 49 innocent people lost their lives due to some raving lunatic. All of those people were in a gun free zone in Orlando. The law already on the books against having a gun (not to mention the law against murder) in that location sure worked well, didn't it? Since you brought it up, what exactly is your solution? So, being "stupid" and all...... inform me, what is considered a "raving lunatic"? Was he not the same "raving lunatic" when approved for the gun purchase? Was he not the same "raving lunatic" when he was scouting potential targets? Was he not the same "RAVING LUNATIC" when the FBI looked into his back round? But some how, this "RAVING LUNATIC" was able to legally purchase a weapon that took the lives of 49 people. Or is he now a "RAVING LUNATIC" because now he took 49 innocent lives? Go ahead, call me stupid for feeling that our gun regulations are way too relaxed. Call me stupid for feeling that gun loopholes that allow weapon purchase at gun shows are non-existent. Go ahead and call me stupid for believing that weapons like the one used were never intended for protection under the 2nd Amendment by our founding fathers. You want to own a gun? Great. Go through protocols similar to owning a car: registration, insurance, yearly gun & yearly mental inspections. And what needs to be added- a stipulation that only the licensed owner can use and access the weapon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Rider Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Sorry about your luck, Browntiggr, but the Constitution does not have an amendment that specifically says your right to keep and bear an automobile shall not be infringed. It also gives the federal government zero authority to regulate arms. I challenge you to show me where it does. The FBI investigated this guy not once, but TWICE, then he passed his background check to buy the gun, and had security clearance to be a guard. You tell me when exactly he became a raving lunatic. It is a crying shame that no one in that club had a weapon. It is also a crying shame that (if this is true, I have not heard for sure) the club had it's fire exits locked. Step back and wipe the kool-aid from your glasses. Your gun control nonsense does not work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Well said Tggr! I agree 100%. People act like that nothing at all should be done about gun control. Yes, there are other murder weapons, but none that can take out so many at one time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 France has gun control. How's it working there? North Korea has gun control too and their people are oh so happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Sorry about your luck, Browntiggr, but the Constitution does not have an amendment that specifically says your right to keep and bear an automobile shall not be infringed. It also gives the federal government zero authority to regulate arms. I challenge you to show me where it does. The FBI investigated this guy not once, but TWICE, then he passed his background check to buy the gun, and had security clearance to be a guard. You tell me when exactly he became a raving lunatic. It is a crying shame that no one in that club had a weapon. It is also a crying shame that (if this is true, I have not heard for sure) the club had it's fire exits locked. Step back and wipe the kool-aid from your glasses. Your gun control nonsense does not work. Because current gun control is working?? Tell that to the families of the 49 victims. Yeah, one of us is looking through rose-colored glasses- Funny how gun advocates try to throw the amendments around, but ignore why the 15th & 19th Amendments needed to be added. Rules, laws, Amendments need to change as society evolves. Believing they cannot be changed is sticking your head in the sand ignoring the real issues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Rider Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 You seem to know so much about gun control and what does and does not work, yet you avoided answering my question. What, in your view, would work? As for changing the constitution, it can be done. You just can't have one lone person decide he knows best and rule through executive fiat. You can't have a court that rules by what their particular party wants instead of by rule of law. Otherwise, we have nothing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 You seem to know so much about gun control and what does and does not work, yet you avoided answering my question. What, in your view, would work? As for changing the constitution, it can be done. You just can't have one lone person decide he knows best and rule through executive fiat. You can't have a court that rules by what their particular party wants instead of by rule of law. Otherwise, we have nothing. As mentioned earlier: You want to own a gun? Great. Go through protocols similar to owning a car: registration, insurance, yearly gun & yearly mental inspections. And what needs to be added- a stipulation that only the licensed owner can use and access the weapon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Rider Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I'm sorry but that is not permitted by the Constitution. You should contact your elected officials and ask them to change it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Where in the Constitution does it say that you have to go through protocols for an automobile? Must have missed that one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Rider Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 You have confused me. What does an automobile have to do with arms? The Constitution does not mention automobiles. It specifically says that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 But there are rules and regulations that are followed which apparently don't infringe upon the right to own said arms. Why not update protocols, as Tggr mentioned, to those rules and regulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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